how intense should cardio be

[tury]

well I am one of those guys that can doesn't like to do cardio at all but I started doing a little cardio about 5 weeks ago and slowly increasing the time. I started with like 10-12 minutes and increased it slowly. Well know I am up to about 15 min warm up before I lift and about another 45min after i lift. at a moderate pace at the supposed target heart rate to burn fat. Well let me tell you Cardio does work. I have been loosing fat left and right, I mean on my left love handle and on my right love handle. But I don't think I do more than an hour max. My buddy who has preparing for a show was doing 1hr of cardio in the am and 1hr in the evening post workout.

Do Cardio it really works.

 

[FlexBailey]

Why do they recommend moderate intensity? In order to avoid being sued, most likely.

Dude, get real!


The fact is, high intensity works best, and by a huge margin. I just knocked off two percentage points in two weeks with high intensity. I have not eaten entirely clean, either. Incidentally, my perception of bodyfat percentage is not, like many others', imaginary. I know what works here. The most intensity you can muster for as long as you can muster it, repeat, repeat, repeat again and again until you are played out, first thing every morning on an empty stomach. The fat will melt away.

And so will the muscle!

 

[Fukkenshredded]

Alrighty, Flex. You know best.

I mean, California is NOT a litigious state, and bumping up the heart rate to over 160 does NOT increase the likelihood of a cardiovascular incident, and there have NEVER been any lawsuits because of that exact thread of events, and all intense cardio burns muscle.

Ok. Because there would really be no way to moderate the dimishment of muscle from excessively intense cardio, would there? Does the body burn muscle first, or second, or third, or at the same time as the other stores of energy?

Can what the body burns be determined easily by any method at all?

If you notice that you have begun to burn sugar, is there a step that could be taken to alter that?

Did the question initially posted also stipulate that no muscle at all could be sacrificed?

Am I getting real enough?

I love getting flamed about how to get ripped. Because that is an area I know NOTHING about, and I like to learn.

 

[FatChops]

I am on my bulking cycle and I am not doing any fuckin' cardio. I have been told that has long has you watch your diet then you'll be o.k. But don't get me wrong cardio will help but it has decreased my strength, and you don't want to do that. Well I would keep cardio under 15 min


"If it was easy, then everyone would do it"

 

[WannaImpress]

Why do they recommend moderate intensity? In order to avoid being sued, most likely.

The fact is, high intensity works best, and by a huge margin. I just knocked off two percentage points in two weeks with high intensity. I have not eaten entirely clean, either. Incidentally, my perception of bodyfat percentage is not, like many others', imaginary. I know what works here. The most intensity you can muster for as long as you can muster it, repeat, repeat, repeat again and again until you are played out, first thing every morning on an empty stomach. The fat will melt away.

If you have seen Fukkenshreddeds' pics. you'll realize he knows exactly what the hell his talking about. I have been doing high intensity cardio in the morning for the last two weeks and I can definitely tell a decrease in bf.

 

[WormAAA77]

Flex is right. He has no support for his theories but since he has more posts he is correct.

 

[Fukkenshredded]

Hold up here. I don't want to get on a soapbox, and what he said about losing muscle is true. My point is that you can avoid losing muscle if you know what to look for. The risk of losing muscle is increased in the high intensity environment, but there are some steps that can be taken. Two of them are very very simple. One, be on fina and winstrol. Trenbelone is the most potent anticatabolic agent we have easy access to, and winstrol acts on the neuron itself and sends a unique message to the muculature, which in the final analysis results in a unique form of anticatabolism.

Secondly, you can avoid burning muscle by starting the high intensity process about twenty minutes into the moderate cycle of cardio, and by having the available keytones in the bloodstream to jumpstart the fatburning process.

Now, muscle will be lost in either case. But keep in mind that muscle is ALWAYS being lost, and replaced. The key is to find a way to replace what is lost in time to prevent any noticeable difference.

How?

Right after the high intensity workout, consume a high protien, high fructose meal without ANY fat, along with a sufficient dose of ALA and Calcium D-glucarate. Fonz has posted how to calculate the dose of ALA several times.

Additionally, we can monitor the situation with ketostix. The science of this is already known on this board by most.

This can counteract the extra muscle burned by high-intensity cardio.

Remember, most "top bodybuilders" rely primarily on gigantic doses of everything to get where they are, and in my opinion, not too many of them are very lean at the heavyweight level. In the lightweights you find some good work, and even light heavies.

Anyway, that is another subject entirely, and I do not mean to diminish the genuine efforts of pro bodybuilders in any way.

But I can see.

 

[MR. BMJ]

Cockdezl and FUKKENSHREDDED are correct...HIIT is awesome.

Also, as long as calories are not debited at an extreme and exercise is not extreme (overtraining), both I, and everyone I have ever meet, has never lost any muscle.

Why waste your time doing extensively long cardio bouts when it can be done in half the time more efficiently?

BTW...fukkenshredded is pretty fukkenshredded...well, maybe not the pretty part, but he is pretty damn lean. I have used this method of HIIT for a couple of years and gotten as lean as 5% with no muscle loss as well...and this was natural...NO JUICE.

BMJ