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Devon1299 said:
Very important.... On school days I sometimes need as much as 12+ of hours of sleep to fell just OK....
By sleeping so little you put a great strain on your nervous system which means that you are sacrificing lifting poundages (and size as well). ...
BigDdaGanjalist
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confusing tangent....
A friend of mine, who's in the armed forces, informed me once during one of my all-weekend raving binges that "the body needs to sleep. If it's been awake for more than 2 days, you risk psychological damage because the brain needs REM to convey all of what it's seen throughout the day....... if it surpasses it won't know real from not real....." ??? I just remembered this conversation when I opened this thread.
feel free to elaborate.
ps. Sleeping is important, if you do a search you'll find that it's the time your body releases hormones for growth and the time your body repairs itself etc.....
A friend of mine, who's in the armed forces, informed me once during one of my all-weekend raving binges that "the body needs to sleep. If it's been awake for more than 2 days, you risk psychological damage because the brain needs REM to convey all of what it's seen throughout the day....... if it surpasses it won't know real from not real....." ??? I just remembered this conversation when I opened this thread.
feel free to elaborate.
ps. Sleeping is important, if you do a search you'll find that it's the time your body releases hormones for growth and the time your body repairs itself etc.....
toga22
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"If you never slow down, you never grow old....."
Sleep is a luxury in life that I do not know much about. I work 12 hour graveyard shift, followed by a morning teaching aerobics in the gym. I go to school and have my own day-to-day responsibilites. It is not unusual, especially lately to go 48-60+ hours without sleep. But on a normal day, I get at best 3 hours.
My belief is that your body will grow accustom to what you provide it. The 8 hour sleep recommendation, is just an average. Some people need more.....while others need less. I happen to be at the low end of that scale.
Even though, I get very little sleep.....I never feel tired, dazed or lacking energy. So in my mind I am providing my body with what it needs. I also never allow myself to use lack of sleep as an excuse.
Of course this is not a recommendation....just my 2 cents
~toga
Sleep is a luxury in life that I do not know much about. I work 12 hour graveyard shift, followed by a morning teaching aerobics in the gym. I go to school and have my own day-to-day responsibilites. It is not unusual, especially lately to go 48-60+ hours without sleep. But on a normal day, I get at best 3 hours.
My belief is that your body will grow accustom to what you provide it. The 8 hour sleep recommendation, is just an average. Some people need more.....while others need less. I happen to be at the low end of that scale.
Even though, I get very little sleep.....I never feel tired, dazed or lacking energy. So in my mind I am providing my body with what it needs. I also never allow myself to use lack of sleep as an excuse.
Of course this is not a recommendation....just my 2 cents
~toga
Gladiola
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I've also heard of psychological studies where they woke ppl up when the entered REM sleep & thus they weren't permitted to dream. I remember that the study subjects started going nuts & they had to terminate the study prematurely!!! I also recall hearing the theory that your mind sorts out all the days info... like getting itself together again.
I've heard ppl say it's an individual thing & they are just someone that needs less sleep & it works for them.
That's what I used to say about food. "I can eat what I want... I work out a lot, I'm still slim so that works for me to eat some crap every day."
Whatever... now that I eat totally clean, NOW I know what it's like for my body to be functioning at it's best.
I've also consistently read of studies that ppl who get 7-8 hours a night on average are healthier, slimmer, & have reduced risk factors for a variety of diseases.
I've heard ppl say it's an individual thing & they are just someone that needs less sleep & it works for them.
That's what I used to say about food. "I can eat what I want... I work out a lot, I'm still slim so that works for me to eat some crap every day."
Whatever... now that I eat totally clean, NOW I know what it's like for my body to be functioning at it's best.
I've also consistently read of studies that ppl who get 7-8 hours a night on average are healthier, slimmer, & have reduced risk factors for a variety of diseases.
Blood&Iron
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No, this is definitely not the case. The vast majority of Americans are chronically sleep-deprived. A very few people are capable of getting by on less leep, but on average most people need about 9 hours. Some can certainly get by on less, but most people simply tell themselves they don't need it and use pills/coffee/etc to counteract the effects of not sleeping. Before the invention of the electric light bulb, during the late 1800's/early 1900's, the average amount of sleep an American got was 9 hours. Today it's about 7.5 hours. Chronic sleep deprivation has been linked to shortened life span and numerous other health problems. For bodybuilding I think sleep is *probably* even more important than diet. If you need an alarm to wake you up in the morning, you're not getting enough sleep. Period.toga22 said:"If you never slow down, you never grow old....."
My belief is that your body will grow accustom to what you provide it.
I think it's quite the debateable subject. I have to disagree with you here, Blood&Iron. Go figure, right? I'd say 8 is somewhat of an arbitrary number that takes into account individual needs. Personally, when I start getting 9-10 hours a night I'm more tired than when I get about 7. I read a little snip it from Flavio Bacciani and he said that he only gets about 4 hours. Can't argue with his physique. I also remember something about Napoleon only getting around 3hours.
Blood&Iron
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It is FACT that the majority of Americans are sleep-deprived. Of course there is a certain amount of variance, and you may well get by on 7 hours. Again, if you use an alarm to wake yourself you're just kidding yourself. Most people do need 8-9 hours and deceive themselves into thinking otherwise. As for Flavio, I would say AS allow for a good bit more sloppiness in one's approach, where the same latitudes will cause big problems for natural trainers.(I don't argue with your previous assertion that AS don't "magically" make one muscular, but they certainly have a profound effect.)Grizzly said:
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BigDdaGanjalist said:
You mean these 'pink elephants' I see after a night of binging aren't real.
I wouldn't train on days after a bad night sleeping. I'll just go home chow a lot food and get to bed early. You need rest to grow. Try over the counter sleeping aids every once in while. Thats why body builders take so many sups because where trying to get our body at a high level of nutrition for optimal growth. Maximize your efforts through nutrition and rest then training.
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had an article on sleep deprivation recently. It told the story of one family that inherits a condition that will not allow their brain to rest. This usually kicks in about age 50 and they are usually dead within five years so I would say sleep is not a luxury, it's a necessary. Whenever you see someone over 100 talking about the secret to their longevity, it always comes up that they somehow have consumed a pint of liqour a day since they were 30. It's not the liquor, it's the sleep from the hangovers that allow them to live this long.
had an article on sleep deprivation recently. It told the story of one family that inherits a condition that will not allow their brain to rest. This usually kicks in about age 50 and they are usually dead within five years so I would say sleep is not a luxury, it's a necessary. Whenever you see someone over 100 talking about the secret to their longevity, it always comes up that they somehow have consumed a pint of liqour a day since they were 30. It's not the liquor, it's the sleep from the hangovers that allow them to live this long.
cure
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Grizzly said:
Hey did Flavio Bacciani win Mr.O? and what happened to Napoleon?
He probably had 3 hours of sleep before the Battle of Waterloo and couldn't get his strategies straight. then he was exiled and i heared he slept in excess of 18 hours a day and had sex the other 6. No but seriously i need at least 8-9 or else i'm dead in the gym the next morning because i workout at 7:00AM. Besides that i feel more energized and the reason you might say you feel less tired with 3 hours of sleep compared to 8 is because your body hasn't completely gone into REM sleep.
Johnny Auto Parts
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sleep accounts for 10% of your gains, lifting 15%, and diet 75% according to the popular rule of thumb.
