How did Schwarzenegger, Columbo, Mentzer etc Recover?

[jacshelb]

Genes have nothing to do with recovery or gyno.

I know what you are saying with this: That when aas are added to the mix, it doesn't matter what your genetic tendency is for recovery of test production and gyno. I don't agree with that fully though. You could have two guys use Test from the same batch and one might get gyno and the other not- that's just the way it goes sometimes. But, yes, you are right in that it definitely wasn't those particular genetic factors that affected an entire generation of bodybuilders.

 

[doublebicep]

Franco had gyno. You can see it in some of pictures with him and Arnold. I think they did come off and crashed hard. Look at some of the pictures of Arnold "off-season".

Nelson might correct me, but back then they did not train year-round. They actually had an off-season.

 

[mavox]

what i dont get is those guys all had a certain look that bbers today dont, minus bloat.. and super small waists. we all know dbol was the main steriod

 

[empirebuilder]

Also seems to me about everytime the topic of Arnold and what he used comes up. Someone always seems to mention Primo?
Nelson why is it no one ever believes you? If I remember right I read one of your posts about this before and the dosages were a lot smaller than most would have thought? Thus people dont believe it?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Also seems to me about everytime the topic of Arnold and what he used comes up. Someone always seems to mention Primo?
Nelson why is it no one ever believes you? If I remember right I read one of your posts about this before and the dosages were a lot smaller than most would have thought? Thus people dont believe it?

No one wants to admit that anyone can look so good on low dosages.

Yes, Franco got gyno when he pushed the dbol/deca too hard. That was maybe the first time a major competitor got it.

Yes, Arnold responded well to roids and in the off season lost a lot.

Don Howorth told me he took 20 mgs of dbol a month before a show to "fill out" a little. Here are the results: http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p183/G-RUN99-06/DonHoworth222.jpg

Here's Larry Scott, totally natural. Obviously he had great genetics: http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/bodybuilder/larryscott/larryscott13.jpg

Here he is after doing a20 mgs a day dbol only cycle. http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/bodybuilder/larryscott/larryscott4.jpg

It shows how a solid foundation can really pop with a little juice. But when guys don't have that foundation, a tiny bit of gear does nothing.


And on a more modest note, here I am at 40 before I ever touched a steroid -- and my genetics suck.

 

[micksnowdog]

These comments are all wrong.

The dosages WERE moderate. (By today's basic internet user standards).

They did not stay on all the time.

Genes have nothing to do with recovery or gyno.

And as far as them being on HRT, well, fuck , they're in their 60's!



Oh, and Clomid sucks.

ok i'm no expert was only replying from what i've read on the internet.
Arnold Schwarzenegger cycle
here's a link that shows his cycle and how he never came off.
also i woul'dnt call a gram of primo pw and 100mg dbol a day moderate, i'm sure plenty of peops use plenty more, but like i said i'm no expert.
only what i've read.

 

[00pump]

The thin waist lines, etc are a result of no hGH abuse.

 

[iggy]

we will never know what arnold did. im pretty sure he wanted that to be secret. i sure hope someday he releases everything he did. doubtful it will happen though

 

[RADAR]

I Can tell you,and the dosage was no where close to what it is today,Why? because gear was more abundant that it is now, My first cycle was German Dbol came in a 1/2 X 1/2 inch square blue bottle, they looked like baby aspirin except they were blue we called them Lugwigs potent as hell by todays standards,so was Winsterol,Anavar,and Test. I did for a first cycle Dbol lugwigs 4 months long 100 tabs total spaced out my bench went from close to 200 to 315 but i worked my azz off for it!

RADAR

 

[Big_Joe]

ok i'm no expert was only replying from what i've read on the internet.
Arnold Schwarzenegger cycle
here's a link that shows his cycle and how he never came off.
also i woul'dnt call a gram of primo pw and 100mg dbol a day moderate, i'm sure plenty of peops use plenty more, but like i said i'm no expert.
only what i've read.

Well guess what you don't even know that much. What if what you read is wrong??? What if it's on a site that is trying to sell you steroids and they big money maker for them is primo? You are a good little consumer. Just believe what you read in the advertisements and spend as much money as you have at the roid store.