Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Hey, I was wondering if it's a good idea to do a test dbol cycle while training mma? I read somewhere that Test E can make you feel woozy if your heart rates above 160, and you should only do low dosages. I will not be fighting while on it, i would just like to bulk up from 152 to about 165. I think i'm near my natural max. I bench 275, squats n deadlfts are gettin there. I'm definetely a hard gainer. I eat 4500 calories a day to gain about 2 lbs a week when i bulk, as I get heavier i increase it to 5500. Ive taken Test once before but not while training. I was wondering if it was possible to train mma and bulk with test? or just stick with 1 or the other and take a break from mma? or maybe try something other than test to bulk.
....iight a little more information. I'm 24 5"11 152 lbs. 41"chest 15"arms.(yes thats cold) bench 275lbs, deadlift 365, squats kinda suck only 275, military press 185. I've been lifting for 10 years, been lfting seriously for 2+. I think i may be hypoglycemic. I'm all about red meat and pasta when trying to bulk. Last year I did two half cycles of sustanon 250 at 500 mg/week for 5 weeks on, 8 weeks off then 5 back on. gained 14 lbs kept 12 of it, but i also almost completely avoided cardio during this time. I have visible abs. Top heavy, skinny legs lol. Basically I'm just wondering if 1.) what roids are safe to be doing that much cardio? and 2.) What ones would get the best results for gaining muscle, while training mixed martial arts? I'm not too worried about lbm I'm pretty sure i can convert it after the cycle i jus wanna get bigger!...or..I'm trying to avoid this if possible, or maybe if I should jus stop training mma for a little and focus entirely on the gym.
My work out schedule now is:
Mornings: Run distance once a week, swim twice a week (sometimes after lifting) arms twice a week sometimes morning sometimes evening.
Evenings: chest, shoulders, back on seperate days every 5th day. Legs once a week, followed by plyometrics. Sprints, leaps, alot of jumping. Take a break and eat.
followed by MMA 2 hours a day 3-4 times a week.
If anyone could please help me it would greatly be appreciated!!!
My work out schedule now is:
Mornings: Run distance once a week, swim twice a week (sometimes after lifting) arms twice a week sometimes morning sometimes evening.
Evenings: chest, shoulders, back on seperate days every 5th day. Legs once a week, followed by plyometrics. Sprints, leaps, alot of jumping. Take a break and eat.
followed by MMA 2 hours a day 3-4 times a week.
If anyone could please help me it would greatly be appreciated!!!
but if you are going to train that way you need to feed your body a lot more than those 4k cals , thats the only way you will keep your gains...Go with 12 week cycle test and dbol ( 6 wks max) at 40 mg and test or sust 500 mg
bluetoolpaul
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Dude, it can be done. look at allistair overeem. guys a monster. Just eat eat eat and you'll be fine. W/ the amount of cardio you're doing you won't have to worry about looking bloated. Test 500mg and eq 400mg 10-12 wks and some dbol to kick it off wks 1-4. have some adex on hand as well. also, mrsupps carries forma stanazol. shit is awesome at combating gyno , also help raise your test levels back up after cycle. check out the holistic pct bible in the stickies. remember, pct is as if not more important than the cycle itself.
Genetics plays alot in this question. If you have an Ectomorph frame then it is going to take longer and require more effort to reach your potential due to genetics. The only thing you can do is eat,train and eat.. Once you get older and your metabolism slows down, then you will start seeing gains more rapidly. Your friends who are 225 plus with big bones and gain weight easily are Mesomorph frames so there is really not alot you can do other than train, cycle, and eat. Im sure you will be fine once you gain 25 plus pounds due to lifting and dieting properly.
Thanks Alot! All really good Advice. I agree Arabian I definetely am an ectomorph, and your right I believe it will come in time, but who wants to wait! haha I'm putting alot of time and effort in now at the gym and dieting, my entire lifestyle, so i would just like to see more results. So i believe I have the discipline to try AAS. Your all right tho I feel like I eat alot definetely more than most people but you can always eat more, and like you said arabian I'm an ectomorph, hard gainer, i'm not most people. So for now I'll definetely focus on eating more. I'll bump it up to 5500 than 6500. I'm sure I'll see results from that because i've done 5500 for a while before. N thanks blue, I'll definetely research that eq, n i totally agree that pct is just as important. N ez e i could see why you dont think i'm ready at 152 but i feel like I have enough discpline with my diet and everything to try AAS. I feel like I plateud with my upper body for now. I'm a pretty solid 152 hahaha seriously tho. most people assume i'm about 180. i dont see it but they do. Lower body I feel like I could still see some nice gains over time goinn natty but I jus figured the AAS would help me reach my goals faster. So i'll just eat more for now I wasnt plannin on starting my cycle until march anyway but I'll definetely blog it n let uz know it goes. Thanks alot i really aprreciate it!
So blue or anybody else, What test would you recommend? because of all the cardio I was thinkin test prop os sustanon maybe?because I heard enthanate should only be taken at low dosages if your training with your heart rate over 160. For the most part I dont train with my heart rate that high, but at times it does when I'm really pushin it. Like a 5 minute round I'd say about 15 seconds of every minute. Its not really like endurance training, more like sprints.
N how do you all feel abuot beastdrol? in general, and opposed to d-bol? I done some research and read that it was a superdrol clone, said it was cellular mass water retention as opposed to estrogen water retention. Everything I read said it would give you nice gains, some say you keep it some say you dont. I'm leaning towards dbol just because its been around longer. Anyways I was wondering what your thoughts were on this?
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