Hey poink.....what were saying about the gun being illegal??

[The Shadow]

copied from chewy:


He was a permanent legal resident:


"Law enforcement officials told Williams that Cho was carrying a backpack that contained receipts for the purchase of a Glock 9mm pistol in March. As a permanent legal resident, Cho was eligible to buy a handgun unless he had been convicted of any felony criminal charges.

Cho renewed his green card in late 2003 and would have undergone a background check at that time, immigration officials told NBC affiliate WSLS-TV of Roanoke. If a criminal record had showed up then, officials would have denied the renewal, they said."

Thank you.


freaking media kept saying he was an exchange student - which I guess is true.

 

[jestro]

jestro said he had an extended clip, so i was assuming he had like 50 rounds in a mag. but to answer your question i think about a dozen is a reasonable amount

A 15 shot is a "double stack" clip. In a usual (old fasioned) semiauto hand gun the bullets are in a single line.
There's been talk of banning the high capacity or double stack clips for years.

 

[nimbus]

A 15 shot is a "double stack" clip. In a usual (old fasioned) semiauto hand gun the bullets are in a single line.
There's been talk of banning the high capacity or double stack clips for years.

ah, thanks for explaining

 

[broley]

what do you say when somebody gets a hold of a homemade recipe for superfly nitro and blows one building after another? do you ban the internets?

if someone wants to they will. this kid was mentally split. he wanted to do damage. so he bought a glock that holds 18 rounds..one in the tube 17 in the clip. if there were no glocks he would have waited another month and saved enough money to buy a couple more weapons...
or he would have done anything to find another way to silence his problems....like someone else said, horse shit and a u-haul.
you know what i say...we should ban all koreans...fuck 'em. fuck 'em all. they're all like pit bulls....bred to fight.

 

[p0ink]

A 15 shot is a "double stack" clip. In a usual (old fasioned) semiauto hand gun the bullets are in a single line.
There's been talk of banning the high capacity or double stack clips for years.

they already did that once, and it didn't work.

 

[heatherrae]

If you ban guns, what am I suppose to do when I go hiking/camping deep into the mountains and come across a bear.....bare knuckle brawl with it?

ummmmmmm....rifles.

 

[alien amp pharm]

ummmmmmm....rifles.

Yes I want to carry around 20 extra pounds of weight while I go deep hiking into the wilderness. Not to mention the size of a rifle.

I'm talking hardcore camping here, not some 'bring a camper with tv and bed' stuff you are use to.

Packing lightly is key.

 

[p0ink]

ummmmmmm....rifles.

he didn't say handguns, he said guns...so, i would think rifles would be covered under that.

 

[gjohnson5]

The guy was in the country legally. This is completely a domestic issue due to him being in the country legally and had aboded by the laws legally. South Koreans are not terrorist and exchange students are not terrorists either.

The word terrorist is subjective by nature but noone has called him a terrorist up till this point.

Ok let's look at the definition of terrorist attack

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/terrorist+attack

Noun 1. terrorist attackterrorist attack - a surprise attack involving the deliberate use of violence against civilians in the hope of attaining political or religious aims
act of terrorism, terrorism, terrorist act - the calculated use of violence (or threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimindation or coercion or instilling fear

1. The guy was a civilian and a green card holder himself
2. He did not intimidate or install fear. All he did was shoot and kill civilians
3. His intentions where unknown , so calling them religious or political would be incorrect
4. He acted alone


So from the definition above , this does not qualify as a terrorist attack

It's still an act of terror - look up the definition of terrorist attack.

Would it be any different if his choice of destruction was not a firearm?

Gun Ban will not fix the actions of mentally unstable people.

A more strict gun law would make the legal purchase more difficult - legal purchasing of firearms, with real background checks, multiple character reference would at least tighten up things while keeping a paper trail.

Had charges been pressed against this young man for the stalking and fire setting he would have failed the background check. Being who he was - he would not have had the positive character references to be considered for a permit. In NY if the person that has made your character reference is questionable or had any flaw in their history - you will not be considered if you can not come up with a different reference.

If, with the stricter gun laws like in some other states - NY specifically you threaten to kill someone or multiple people one phone call is all it takes for someone to show up at your door to seize your firearms.

Ban guns - and there will just be more machinist making the parts to make guns. Do you know just how easy it is to build a weapon?

If people would take threats all kinds - a bit more seriously.
If people would understand the undoable damage a firearm can do.

I agree with you - it's scary to think of some of the people out there that have firearms. I made the mistake of being in Arkansas with a car with NY plates - I was followed and chased by a white pickup, 3 guys, 2 of which were pointing hunting rifles at me. Do you know what the local police did? The asked what I was doing in THEIR STATE anyway.

If the world were a perfect little place and people didn't break laws that were created to protect them I would agree with you but it's not so while I do support better gun laws in all states for all firearms not just pistols - I also support the right to bear them in the first place.

 

[velvett]

oh PUHLEASE
Are you KIDDING ME?
ter·ror·ist (tĕr'ər-ĭst)
n.
One that engages in acts or an act of terrorism.

adj.
Of or relating to terrorism.
http://www.answers.com/terrorist&r=67

ter·ror·ism (tĕr'ə-rĭz'əm)
n.
The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

http://www.answers.com/terrorism


His birth place does not make a diffference - I did not even mention that in my post.

The guy was in the country legally. This is completely a domestic issue due to him being in the country legally and had aboded by the laws legally. South Koreans are not terrorist and exchange students are not terrorists either.

The word terrorist is subjective by nature but noone has called him a terrorist up till this point.

Ok let's look at the definition of terrorist attack

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/terrorist+attack

Noun 1. terrorist attackterrorist attack - a surprise attack involving the deliberate use of violence against civilians in the hope of attaining political or religious aims
act of terrorism, terrorism, terrorist act - the calculated use of violence (or threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimindation or coercion or instilling fear

1. The guy was a civilian and a green card holder himself (doesn't matter)2. He did not intimidate or install fear. (WHAT???) All he did was shoot and kill civilians (No, that doesn't intimidate or install fear - nor does stalking or setting a dorm room on fire)
3. His intentions where unknown , so calling them religious or political would be incorrect - They were religious... among other things...
REALLY? Are we ready the same reports?

"We always joked we were just waiting for him to do something, waiting to hear about something he did," said another classmate, Stephanie Derry. "But when I got the call it was Cho who had done this, I started crying, bawling."

Despite the many warning signs that came to light in the bloody aftermath, police and university officials offered no clues as to exactly what set Cho off.

Cho - who arrived in the United States as boy from South Korea in 1992 and was raised in suburban Washington, D.C., where his parents worked at a dry cleaners - left a note that was found after the bloodbath.

A law enforcement official described it Tuesday as a typed, eight-page rant against rich kids and religion. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

"You caused me to do this," the official quoted the note as saying.

Cho indicated in his letter that the end was near and that there was a deed to be done, the official said. He also expressed disappointment in his own religion, and made several references to Christianity, the official said.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationw...759008.story?page=2&coll=ny-sports-columnists4. He acted alone (terrorist may act as one person)

So from the definition above , this does not qualify as a terrorist attack

Clearly I would have vastly disagree with you.