Iv been of for 3 years iv managed to maintain my size at around 183lbs
You probably weigh more because everyone weighs more at 23 than at 18. I just get the feeling you don;t know what you;re doing. At 23 you can make amazing gains with just supplements. And you;re talking about tren and clen at 183pounds? Yeah, you don;t kanow what you;re doing. I know you want help but I think the best advice I can give is to learn how to train and eat and supplement. Then learn more about steroids before taking them.