Help please need sprinting cycle !!

[stevesmi]

eddy has decades of experience with this stuff, i would take his advice.

did you come here for advice or did u come here for a thumbs up so you can go ahead and juice?

 

[Vultan88]

Not a thumbs up just advice on the cycle I think I should do, I've already juiced before I just need a new cycle

 

[stevesmi]

98% of people on here are gym rats who are trying to get stronger and/or going for the bodybuilder look. you won't find many who have any experience on the track. I am one of those that do, i was a competitive runner for 3 years. and i will say steroids ruined my times, did not help. what did help was busting my ass ahead of the race and training hard. the harder i trained, the better i did. if i didn't train hard i would struggle

so IMO whether you take steroids or not won't make much of a difference (if anything it could be counter productive as it was with me) so your best bet is to bust your ass and knock on wood stay healthy. and you will do well. yeah its true you might get frustrated watching some dude work half as hard as you and get a better time, i saw that all the time. but not all of us have the same genetics

 

[Vultan88]

Trust me I completely understand where your comming from, I busted my ass all three years as soon as the season was over off season training began I trained very hard I had two personal trainers but they left, any way I used the anavar cycle on the off season to gain strength so now I'm looking for on season to keep / gain during to gain more speed

 

[Power36]

I knew plenty of athletes who juiced in college, but most often it didnt help as much as they thought because it was a head game...they onl worked hard when on, and were all bummed when off....at 21 your natural hormonal cocktail is better than a good cycle so you have all you need to work on your speed and power...

If you know how to train, eat, and supplement right, at your age you should be able to make huge improvements...

Juice will help you recover faster now, but in long run of your athletic career probably just lower your natural T levels if you end up doing it less than optimal...plus these days we know enough about recovery to do some amazing things, rolling out on hard rollerrs, tennis balls, LAX balls, doing lots of self myofascial release, using The Stick, ice baths, massage, various kinds of stretching, relaxation strategies post workout and before bed....with the right kinds of self care and supplementation you can improve recovery, hence training hard again on the track and in the weightroom

Do power cleans, snatches, squats, plyos...get a good strength coach, and if you dont have one already speed coach, work on your gains in the weightroom and in technique on the track, and someone who knows how to program both your weightroom and track workouts together to make the best gains....then find someone to help you with nutrition and supplements, of which this might not be the best place because athletic performance is a different world than bodybuilding all together....that goes for your training, diet, and supplements...youre going to be doing something different than most folks on here who are training for looks and my impression is most of us on here are way older than you...

If you are not already focus on learning the olympic lifts from a good coach, and improve whatever you can in your run technique, and get someone who can mastermind your workout strategy

 

[Judo Tom]

there are just too many variables to give good advice on something like this with the info you have provided

there are two huge things that stand out right from the get go and then a 3rd that you ended up revealing:
1 your age
2 you want a LONG cycle

then 3rd your inability to listen to any criticism

so even if you gave more info and got great advice from vets here.. i doubt you would really follow it

roids are not the only thing that can make you beat this guy.. a new diet, routine, mental focus, and supplement arsenal can help as well

 

[Vultan88]

Well if you are willing to tell me ill listen, what other supplements should I be taking, ill explain my problem is the ending of the race about the 60 meter mark of the 1 I end up slowing down and get passed, the begining I'm beating everybody by at least 8 meters but then I lose rotation, I don't now what to do for it, I do all those types of lift s and everything in the off season and maintain during, I alsowas in great contition in season as I go by myself and do workouts as our coach is not very good and I've been by myself for a while I lost my trainer to a new job so I'm kind of wondering in the dark here I still do speed training by myself to what my limits are given like box jumps, sprint intervals, trampoline runs, band runs, and plyos but I'm really not sure what else I could do for my twitch muscles

, and my diet I'm not sure about either I do make my own but I'm not quite a nutritionist so again in the dark, also I'm not sure if I should take protien during my season or not as a choice, and tom i. Am willing to listen to critizism, and not a long cycle I just to win the championchip at the end of the season so I could do it in the middle, and I do understand my age, I really am happy you guys are helping me because I do need advice even if its not what I asked it would still help me because ill listen

 

[Judo Tom]

ok so you need a new coach/trainer. it is always easier if you are surrounded by people more knowledgeable then yourself.

you should definitely spend good money on quality protein supplements.

your diet needs to be logged 100% everything you eat you should write down or take a picture of and post it online for you and your coach to see. from there you can make adjustments as necessary.

i train guys who start off as amateurs fighting 3 min rounds.. when they turn pro the rounds are 5 mins. when people have problems gassing near the end of the round or in the last round its a simple fix. we make sure they have gas for long rounds and more rounds.

you most likely need to improve your conditioning and power output. diet and supps can have a huge part of this. if you are not properly fueling a porsche it will drive like crap.

what is your training/routine like how often are you running, how far, how often do you lift, how long, what rep ranges... etc etc

see this is why we just dont say.. yeah f it swallow some dbol and winstrol and you will get faster...

 

[eddymerckx]

Well if you are willing to tell me ill listen, what other supplements should I be taking, ill explain my problem is the ending of the race about the 60 meter mark of the 1 I end up slowing down and get passed, the begining I'm beating everybody by at least 8 meters but then I lose rotation, I don't now what to do for it,

First, you have had bad training advice b/c your issue is classic and easy to fix.

Okay--having spent far too much of my life on a track I can tell you right now STRENGTH IS NOT YOUR PROBLEM--what you describe is simple: you have not done enough work above that your lactate threshold--its hitting you like a wall at 60m because of one thing--your VO2 max is too low--you need a specific training targeted at raising that threshold--NO GEAR WILL HELP WITH THIS--in fact, it will hurt.

Trust me--you describe a classic sign of bad coaching--and you will not get a good coach if he/she thinks you are/have done gear b/c they risk their livelihood by training you.

You are plenty big enough--more muscle will just hurt you.

If you can't get a trainer--a good one--go to you local college, talk to the track coach (most will offer you some advice as your problem is classic and easy to fix--easy to tell you how, hard work to fix).

If you live in a big city or certain endurance hubs, find a performance lab that has the best rep and spend your $$ there---they will do more in 3 hours than 5 years of training.

If that fails or you can't afford it, I will tell you in detail how to fix your issue by June--your speed is not the issue--it's your cardiovascular (and, I bet, there is a couple of diet issues b/c you are not clearing lactic acid fast enough). BUT if you do any gear I will not help.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ i will say this i went through this with my 5K's.. could not break 20 minutes no matter what.. it was frustrating.. i would be in front of this one chick and she would ALWAYS pass me on the final half mile and i felt like i was outta gas. so i started doing LSD long slow distance.. really built up my mileage, stuck to 8 minute pace for 50-55 minutes doing a lot of hillwork too. then boom the next 5K i was in front of her and she never caught up from then on. i broke that barrier and never looked back.

so i think you hit the nail on the head with this kid, he needs to improve his endurance