Help needed with danabol only cycle. . .

[wazz]

Hi mates, I'm planning to try some steroids..
Stats: age 26, 5.10"ft 180lbs with only 10% body fats.
I've been training since many yrs n have a nice muscular physique. Have a good knowledge of training n weights. Very good at diet too. Now I wanna gain some bulk with the help of steroids, good diet and heavy training.
Planning for Danabol tablets 10mg for my first cycle. I know many of u will call it a fail cycle n tell me to get test aswell. I wanna check oral only effects on my body. If I get positive results, will definitely go for injectables.
So I'm having danabol 10mg tablets with me along with tamoxifen tablets for pct and Liv-52 for liver protection.
I need help for proper dosages. When to take tablets, how much mg, split the dosage or altogether?
And also take nolvadex with the cycle or only for pct of 2-3weeks? How much mg for nolvadex daily? What supplements are good to stack with danabol? ?
I research internet but no sites give exact info n are confusing.
Plz give me complete guide for dianabol only cycle along with proper pct
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[NegroPops]

i will break things down like this:

Dianbol: People typically dose this anywhere between 20-100 mg per day, for a period from 4-10 weeks, depending on experience. Based on your stats and goals I would advice you to run dbol between 20-40 mg per day for 4-6 weeks. You could start dosing at 20 mg per day to get an idea of your tolerance then dose up from there. Dbol also has a short half life, so to keep blood levels stable you will want to split the dosing 2-3 times throughout the day. Dianobol is also fairly liver toxic so you will want to make sure to be running liver support.. i see you listed liv-52 which is fine. Finally.. dianbol converts to estrogen very easily, so you will want to run an aromatase inhibitor on cycle to limit this conversion and keep any estro related sides like water retention and gyno at bay. Nolva is not an aromatase inhibitor and should not be ran on cycle.. or even in pct for that matter. For an AI you will want to choose from aromasin (12.5 mg eod) or armidex (.5 mg eod). A good product to stack with Dianbol, especially without a test base, would be HCGenerate from needtobuildmuscle.com; this is a natty test booster that will keep your balls active during the cycle.. which will make it easier to recover when it comes time for PCT.

PCT: A nolva only PCT is a no-no. It is an outdated and not very effected of recovering from a steroid cycle. It will do nothing to restore your bodies natural hpta, which is the point of pct. Nolva can be used in PCT if you have gyno or symptoms of gyno, other then that it is pretty much useless. Clomid is a much better option for a SERM in pct. You will want to run this for 4 weeks at a low dose of 25 mg a day. Also for PCT, you will want to add in an AI. Forma Stanzol from mrsupps.com is about the best AI you can have. It works as a SERM, as an AI, and a test booster. With this two things it is also a good idea to run some sort of natty test booster to help elevate your test levels and keep the side effects minimal.

Your cycle should look like this somewhat:

1-2 dbol 20 mg per day
3-6 dbol 30 mg per day
1-6 aromasin 12.5 mg EOD
1-6 Liv-52
1-6 HCGenerate 1 serving per day

PCT:
7-10 Clomid 25/25/25/25
7-10 Forma Stanzol 5 pumps, twice per day
7-10 Natty Test booster

 

[mdpasha]

Bro it would be more advisable if u rum helladrol for ur first cycle!
U'll love the results with min.sides!
Its not that u cannot put on muscles with dianabol but it use as a kick start to an long ester injectable cycle like test. Dbol will give u water retention & estrogen probs & helladrol is quite the opposite of it.Thats why I recommend u try helladrol cycle. Also plz do not use nolva for pct. Spent few days reading the forums in here on proper pct & oral only cycles. This will help u understand how to plan an oral only cycle with min sides & to keep ur gains post cycle
All the best!
The choice is yours bro

 

[wazz]

i will break things down like this:

Dianbol: People typically dose this anywhere between 20-100 mg per day, for a period from 4-10 weeks, depending on experience. Based on your stats and goals I would advice you to run dbol between 20-40 mg per day for 4-6 weeks. You could start dosing at 20 mg per day to get an idea of your tolerance then dose up from there. Dbol also has a short half life, so to keep blood levels stable you will want to split the dosing 2-3 times throughout the day. Dianobol is also fairly liver toxic so you will want to make sure to be running liver support.. i see you listed liv-52 which is fine. Finally.. dianbol converts to estrogen very easily, so you will want to run an aromatase inhibitor on cycle to limit this conversion and keep any estro related sides like water retention and gyno at bay. Nolva is not an aromatase inhibitor and should not be ran on cycle.. or even in pct for that matter. For an AI you will want to choose from aromasin (12.5 mg eod) or armidex (5 mg eod). A good product to stack with Dianbol, especially without a test base, would be HCGenerate from needtobuildmuscle.com; this is a natty test booster that will keep your balls active during the cycle.. which will make it easier to recover when it comes time for PCT.

PCT: A nolva only PCT is a no-no. It is an outdated and not very effected of recovering from a steroid cycle. It will do nothing to restore your bodies natural hpta, which is the point of pct. Nolva can be used in PCT if you have gyno or symptoms of gyno, other then that it is pretty much useless. Clomid is a much better option for a SERM in pct. You will want to run this for 4 weeks at a low dose of 25 mg a day. Also for PCT, you will want to add in an AI. Forma Stanzol from mrsupps.com is about the best AI you can have. It works as a SERM, as an AI, and a test booster. With this two things it is also a good idea to run some sort of natty test booster to help elevate your test levels and keep the side effects minimal.

Your cycle should look like this somewhat:

1-2 dbol 20 mg per day
3-6 dbol 30 mg per day
1-6 aromasin 12.5 mg EOD
1-6 Liv-52
1-6 HCGenerate 1 serving per day

PCT:
7-10 Clomid 25/25/25/25
7-10 Forma Stanzol 5 pumps, twice per day
7-10 Natty Test booster

Tht was realy nice detailed guide bro.. Appreciated. .!!
the only prblm here(India) is getting the steroids n correct pct products is too difficult. Also can u suggest me any alternative for stanzol in oral form??

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[NegroPops]

i don't know much about other countries customs and such, so i don't know what can be shipped there and what not.

Forma is just transdermal.. meaning it is like a lotion that you put on your skin and it is absorbed that way. i don't believe there is an oral form of it. I can't think of anything that comes close to doing what it does.

 

[wazz]

Bro it would be more advisable if u rum helladrol for ur first cycle!
U'll love the results with min.sides!
Its not that u cannot put on muscles with dianabol but it use as a kick start to an long ester injectable cycle like test. Dbol will give u water retention & estrogen probs & helladrol is quite the opposite of it.Thats why I recommend u try helladrol cycle. Also plz do not use nolva for pct. Spent few days reading the forums in here on proper pct & oral only cycles. This will help u understand how to plan an oral only cycle with min sides & to keep ur gains post cycle
All the best!
The choice is yours bro

Thanks bro
the prblm is to get the steroids here.. not tht easy to get helladrol here. Danabol was easy fr me to get, so I'm thinking to give it a shot.

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[wazz]

i don't know much about other countries customs and such, so i don't know what can be shipped there and what not.

Forma is just transdermal.. meaning it is like a lotion that you put on your skin and it is absorbed that way. i don't believe there is an oral form of it. I can't think of anything that comes close to doing what it does.

I'll search fr it n try to get it.. and to b honest u cleared my issues in minutes. I was struggling to get real n helpful information since a week.. Thanks agn

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[Jbranken]

Tht was realy nice detailed guide bro.. Appreciated. .!!
the only prblm here(India) is getting the steroids n correct pct products is too difficult. Also can u suggest me any alternative for stanzol in oral form??

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You could run adex on cycle and aromasin in pct if ya want.

 

[stevesmi]

people are still running nolva as an AI subsitute during cycle? i guess it makes sense you being in India living in the slums thats probably all you guys can afford.

run a nice light AI during dbol .. you need to control estrogen not smack it to hell.. if you cannot get the proper ancillaries then don't even bother running it. give the dbol to the gangsta who runs the slum there and let him sell it for you

 

[Nelson Montana]

i will break things down like this:

Dianbol: People typically dose this anywhere between 20-100 mg per day, for a period from 4-10 weeks, depending on experience. Based on your stats and goals I would advice you to run dbol between 20-40 mg per day for 4-6 weeks. You could start dosing at 20 mg per day to get an idea of your tolerance then dose up from there. Dbol also has a short half life, so to keep blood levels stable you will want to split the dosing 2-3 times throughout the day. Dianobol is also fairly liver toxic so you will want to make sure to be running liver support.. i see you listed liv-52 which is fine. Finally.. dianbol converts to estrogen very easily, so you will want to run an aromatase inhibitor on cycle to limit this conversion and keep any estro related sides like water retention and gyno at bay. Nolva is not an aromatase inhibitor and should not be ran on cycle.. or even in pct for that matter. For an AI you will want to choose from aromasin (12.5 mg eod) or armidex (.5 mg eod). A good product to stack with Dianbol, especially without a test base, would be HCGenerate from needtobuildmuscle.com; this is a natty test booster that will keep your balls active during the cycle.. which will make it easier to recover when it comes time for PCT.

PCT: A nolva only PCT is a no-no. It is an outdated and not very effected of recovering from a steroid cycle. It will do nothing to restore your bodies natural hpta, which is the point of pct. Nolva can be used in PCT if you have gyno or symptoms of gyno, other then that it is pretty much useless. Clomid is a much better option for a SERM in pct. You will want to run this for 4 weeks at a low dose of 25 mg a day. Also for PCT, you will want to add in an AI. Forma Stanzol from mrsupps.com is about the best AI you can have. It works as a SERM, as an AI, and a test booster. With this two things it is also a good idea to run some sort of natty test booster to help elevate your test levels and keep the side effects minimal.

Your cycle should look like this somewhat:

1-2 dbol 20 mg per day
3-6 dbol 30 mg per day
1-6 aromasin 12.5 mg EOD
1-6 Liv-52
1-6 HCGenerate 1 serving per day

PCT:
7-10 Clomid 25/25/25/25
7-10 Forma Stanzol 5 pumps, twice per day
7-10 Natty Test booster

I agree with this for the most part expect I'd use the forma while on and the dex once off. Drop the clomid . Add a shot of HCG two days after last pill and add UNLEASHED and POST-CYCLE for at least one month, followed by BRIDGE. That's if you want the best recovery and to hold on to the most gains.

 

[wazz]

people are still running nolva as an AI subsitute during cycle? i guess it makes sense you being in India living in the slums thats probably all you guys can afford.

run a nice light AI during dbol .. you need to control estrogen not smack it to hell.. if you cannot get the proper ancillaries then don't even bother running it. give the dbol to the gangsta who runs the slum there and let him sell it for you

Tht was quite harsh.. focus on helping with good advices/suggestions. . Dont bother for wht can I afford..

 

[stevesmi]

Tht was quite harsh.. focus on helping with good advices/suggestions. . Dont bother for wht can I afford..

nah bro. you think its harsh now.. but trust me you will look back and be like 'shit i should of listened'

the thing with dbol is it aromatizes more than any other AAS out there, so you will get a ton of water weight. so what will happen is you will look like a bloated fish on this and gain a bunch of water weight which is only temporary. really not the look you should be aiming for here.

get your stuff together first before running this and i know its not the advice you want to hear and you will probably not listen to me but it is the correct advice

i know your friend there told you to run nolva, but that is only because it is a cheap piece of crap SERM that will cripple your estrogen and hurt your gains and mood/libido. you need to run either adex or aromasin and if you can get a hold of it forma is your best bet.. i'm gonna tell you how it is, i'm not gonna waste your time and tell you to go ahead and run it and hope for the best.. i'm assuming you want to get the best results possible correct?

 

[wazz]

nah bro. you think its harsh now.. but trust me you will look back and be like 'shit i should of listened'

the thing with dbol is it aromatizes more than any other AAS out there, so you will get a ton of water weight. so what will happen is you will look like a bloated fish on this and gain a bunch of water weight which is only temporary. really not the look you should be aiming for here.

get your stuff together first before running this and i know its not the advice you want to hear and you will probably not listen to me but it is the correct advice

i know your friend there told you to run nolva, but that is only because it is a cheap piece of crap SERM that will cripple your estrogen and hurt your gains and mood/libido. you need to run either adex or aromasin and if you can get a hold of it forma is your best bet.. i'm gonna tell you how it is, i'm not gonna waste your time and tell you to go ahead and run it and hope for the best.. i'm assuming you want to get the best results possible correct?

Now thts a good advice.. srry fr d previous comment. . Adex or aromasin for pct or during cycle?? Yes I wanna keep the gained results for real n nt temporary.. n yes m gathering all needed products n info before getting into the cycle..

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[stevesmi]

^^^ re-read my post.

dbol aromatizes so yes you need an AI during it unless you want to bloat up .. if you take no AI you will retain a lot of water which will lead to a watery look and you will also get a lot of sides. not what we want.

if you control estrogen during cycle then pct will be a breeze. with a short acting oral like dbol pct is much easier than a long acting injectable . slumdog millionaire was an awesome movie btw, i really enjoyed it

 

[wazz]

Whts your thoughts on adding creatine with the cycle?
N yes Mercedes on bricks with no tires on it is a gud sight lolz
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[stevesmi]

Whts your thoughts on adding creatine with the cycle?
N yes Mercedes on bricks with no tires on it is a gud sight lolz
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do you really shit on one of those boardwalk things? that is pretty disgusting.

anyway creatine can be added anytime.. for a skinny dude like you it might not be a bad idea to add it coming off cycle

 

[NegroPops]

you should always be taking creatine

 

[notjake11]

you should always be taking creatine

I can't take any creatine except Nitrate without blowing up like a puffer fish and looking incredibly bloated and sloppy. The nitrate is so much more expensive that I don't stay on it full time but I definitely still use it.