Help me out Brohams!!!

[chefbone]

So here's the deal... I'm going into the U.S. Army( Special Forces and/or Ranger School) and may need some help from guys with conditioning and or military experience. My reason for joining is I'm tired of sitting around watching shit go down and not being able to help out first hand.

Here is my daily routine:
Wake-up: 2 caps lipo 6+ Run 2 miles
Breakfast: 1 1/2 cups oatmeal, 23gwhey/5g glutamine shake+banana
1 hour later: Animal Pak, flax seed caps 1000mg
11:00 a.m. W shake= 23g whey+5g glutamine, 2 caps lipo6
Gym: 1 hr weights+30-45 min. cardio
PWO:23g whey+5g glutamine & power bar
2:30: 1 can tuna+2 pieces whole wheat+apple
5:00: 2 caps lipo6+8oz lean meat+5 oz. Brown rice+broccoli or cauliflower
8:00: 1/2 peanuts+5oz. lean meat or fish.
11:30: 23g casein+5g glutamine
12:00: ZMA+rest
(two days lift, one day rest)
chest/bi's, back/tri's, quads/hams, delts/traps***one day abs, one day calves

I drink about 2 gallons of water everday. Nothing else.
I am leaving in August or October. I was going to start another cycle in late June consisting of 500mg Test E+400-600mg of EQ for 12 weeks & pct.
Question 1. Should I do the cycle?
If so: Will I test clean for the physical in October?
Question 2: What kind of training should I be doing to prepare myself to be the best of the best?

Stats are as follows: Age 28, weight 196, height 70 in., bf 14%.
Any advice from you guys would be awesome. Please bro's, help me out. If there's anything on here you think I should change, I am all ears(eyes).

 

[chefbone]

Oh, by the way, please don't turn this thread into an anti-war post. This thread was made to help me prepare to be a super-soldier.

Bone

 

[BOOEY]

What's your goal - Looking to bulk up? lose fat? gain LBM?

 

[chefbone]

Well, I'm not entirely sure. I think I might me better off cutting more body fat and picking up on my endurance, maybe some bulk. Do have any ideas, opinions or suggestions?

 

[almost-pro]

Well, I'm not entirely sure. I think I might me better off cutting more body fat and picking up on my endurance, maybe some bulk. Do have any ideas, opinions or suggestions?

this goal isn't clear at all. "might be better of cutting more bodyfat and picking up my endurance, MAYBE SOME BULK" ?? hmmmmmm

 

[krishna]

How big are you now? I would say it's time for endurance training. You need to work on your conditioning. I don't know the army's testing policies on gear; maybe someone else can help you out with that one. If you're not sure, then don't do the next cycle.

 

[chefbone]

this goal isn't clear at all. "might be better of cutting more bodyfat and picking up my endurance, MAYBE SOME BULK" ?? hmmmmmm

I know the goal isn't clear. I'm asking for advice. I'm asking for the bros opinions on what would be my best plan of attack for stellar preparation. This is a big step and I want the best possible conditioning and strength.

 

[beefcake28]

I don't know if they test for steroids or not, but... if you do the cycle, you won't test clean (assuming they test for them)... the EQ will show up for a good 6 and the Test E. for 3 months...

Detection Times

These detection times were taken from different sources. This table if for informational purposes only, this website will not be held responsible if you are caught on a drug test. This isn't medical advice, only information gathered from various sources



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- nandrolone decanoate

18 months

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- nandrolone phenylpropionate

12 months

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- boldenone undecyclate
- metehenolone enanthate
- trenbolone
- trenbolone acetate
- injectable methandienone


5 months

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- testosterone-mix (Sustanon & Omnadren)
- testosterone enanthate
- testosterone cypionate


3 months

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- oxymetholone
- fluoxymesterone
- injectabel stanozolol
- formebolone
- drostanolone propionate


2 months

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- methandienone
- mesterolone
- ethylestrenole
- noretadrolone


3 weeks

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- oxandrolone
- oral stanozolol


3 weeks

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- testosterone propionate

2 weeks

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- testosterone undecanoate

1 week

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- clenbuterol

4 days

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[littleb]

bro, strength dont mean anything thing in the army, they want muscular endurance.. I went in at 190, 3 years later came out 165,and cut to all hell. if you want advice dont worry about strength, i would do pushups situps and run run run . as far as a cycle goes, you can but dont cut out cardio, or you will pay for it bigtime.. so if you are strength training, thats fine, but add in above mentioned exercises asap. esp. for ranger school. i was in ranger school 3 weeks (but had a walkman that was not on packing list that they found oopppss) you run more then anything. shoot me an im if you got any ques bro. good luck too you. you going in 11b?

 

[ruggermu]

Honestly Bro keep with the schedule that you are comfortable with. If you go in in good shape you will be fine. Most important will be mental toughness, if your the type who refuses to fail then you won't. Everything from boot camp through your training gradually builds up, so you will be constantly bettering your self. If I was going in again (just recenly got out completely) I would bulk as much as possible, it will make running tough but for gods sake your gonna loose alot of weight there. When I came home from boot and dive I was tough as a nail, but about the damn size of one to. If you already have a Ranger contract good on ya Bro.

 

[chefbone]

Actually, I think my enlistment might be 18x. Which means I am granted, upon enlistment, a shot at Special Forces. Or, I may try for the Ranger contract. What would you do?

 

[ruggermu]

One thing I learned in my time was you want everything in writing. I was a squid not in the Army so I'm not completely sure about your contracts, but my opinion you should try to get everything your interested in on there. Remember those are the only things your guaranteed. But I believe you can volunteer for Spec Ops at boot camp, so here the thing. If your in good enough shape now to qual see if they'll let you before you leave if your not wait until boot camp and get in that kind of shape.

 

[littleb]

Honestly Bro keep with the schedule that you are comfortable with. If you go in in good shape you will be fine. Most important will be mental toughness, if your the type who refuses to fail then you won't. Everything from boot camp through your training gradually builds up, so you will be constantly bettering your self. If I was going in again (just recenly got out completely) I would bulk as much as possible, it will make running tough but for gods sake your gonna loose alot of weight there. When I came home from boot and dive I was tough as a nail, but about the damn size of one to. If you already have a Ranger contract good on ya Bro.

i agree if he can bulk up and still max pt test, which imo would be hard. alot of good things come from maxing pt test, faster promotions being the most important. for a waiver promotion E1toE4 pt score is a lott of the points needed. also sp. forces and ranger school way higher standards for pt. just ask recruiter for the min. and max. for your age and work on that, good things will follow. take care bro.

 

[chefbone]

I'm thinking Special Forces because your with the same 12 guys for awhile. Kind of like a football team and a coach on game day. But Ranger School just has so much history and(don't laugh)combative romance. Ya feel me.

So this is what I'm considering: Continue cutting until I reach a weight of 180-185. From their I'll kick up the calories a little at a time until I'm around a solid 195. During this time, I will continue the cardio i.e...Running in the morning and elliptical trainer after weights. The running will pick up until I can do an easy 3 miles in 22 minutes. From there, maybe start running in heavy boots and a fully loaded backpack(I know, that'll look pretty funny during morning rush hour). What do you guys think of that.
By the way, thanks for the replies and advice. It means alot bros.

Bone

 

[chefbone]

Bump for more input....

 

[needtogetaas]

Actually, I think my enlistment might be 18x. Which means I am granted, upon enlistment, a shot at Special Forces. Or, I may try for the Ranger contract. What would you do?

everyone is garanted a shout even cooks.
Ok lesson to me.this is what is going to happen to you.first you will go to basic.there you will do sit ups push ups run and about 10 thousand other callastatics.the bigest wate you will ever see is youre 65bl reck sake wich you will cary with you ware ever you go.5 10 12 15 20 25 30 mile ruck marchis or a reqiarment.the more you lift waits now the more you fuck youreself then.
then you will go to A.I.T it will be alittle less hard there.you will still do all the sit ups push ups ect.ect.at A.I.T you will wont to sign up for airborn and start airborn pt were talken 15 20 runs every day.I dont care what anny one says.you do not wont to be a ranger or S.P AND NOT BE AIRBORN.Once you finnish a.i.t you will go to fort benning gourga.there you will get youre 4 weeks airborn traning.get reddy to run and run and run some more.you will run a marathon every day and do pull ups all night and then jump out some planes...when you get don with thatyou will go to r.i.p 16 weeks of pure hell you will be put thrue every thing you can think of.the rangers that are there to trane you only wont one thing .for you to quit.for 16 weeks they will push you 22 hours a day .the other 2 you might get to sleep but I dout it.the 16 weeks is just to see if you can be a ranger it ant even 1/10 of the reel ranger tranning wich is about a year long.
and S.P I dont know about nevver went...this is what I would do ......go out side right now and go run 20 miles.......when youre don x that by 1000 and youre have way there to seing what its going to feel like....have fun I did mine and I dont wont to do it agian.......

 

[chefbone]

Bump for the night guys

 

[chefbone]

C'mon guys, any advice would help.

 

[chefbone]

last bump

 

[bicepts101]

ill reply after the gym and ill tell u exactly why you shouldnt do a cycle

 

[needtogetaas]

last bump

you suck dick.

 

[needtogetaas]

bump.

 

[vhmarine]

Actually, I think my enlistment might be 18x. Which means I am granted, upon enlistment, a shot at Special Forces. Or, I may try for the Ranger contract. What would you do?

oh god they still have 18x what crap, ok man here is the deal ive done the 18x, I did 4 years Marine Inf. then got out a few years then though dam I can be SF no problem, The problem is the Army likes to use that program to get people in. Only 25 to 30 percent make it, and we are talking the best out there, the rest will get sent where the Army needs them. Think about that. As for me I tryed it and after I did not get picked I was sent off to a Inf unit in Germany for 4 years, If I where you,I would take a good MOS, something you will be able to us the rest of your life. Just my 2 cents, anyway like everyone has said lifting dont mean shit to tha army they want skinny guys so lose all the weight you can and run your ass off.

 

[vhmarine]

C'mon guys, any advice would help.

Stats are as follows: Age 28, weight 196, height 70 in., bf 14%.

and just so you know ar-600-9 army reg for weight control program, look it up you will need it, says at 70 inches max weight is 185 so you are overweight to the army and will have to get a tape test every time. at your age 22% is max so you will pass easy but they will always give you crap about it, dont get me wrong I love the military my wife is in the army right now. Just please do your homework and pick a good Mos you can live with. If you have any question please ask Ive done 8 years Marine, Army airborne, Ranger, Sfas, my wife is in basic right now and my brother is a 1st sgt in the 82nd and is a Ranger with 19 years in. So please ask tons of questions befor you sign that contract...

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

So here's the deal... I'm going into the U.S. Army( Special Forces and/or Ranger School) and may need some help from guys with conditioning and or military experience. My reason for joining is I'm tired of sitting around watching shit go down and not being able to help out first hand.

Here is my daily routine:
Wake-up: 2 caps lipo 6+ Run 2 miles
Breakfast: 1 1/2 cups oatmeal, 23gwhey/5g glutamine shake+banana
1 hour later: Animal Pak, flax seed caps 1000mg
11:00 a.m. W shake= 23g whey+5g glutamine, 2 caps lipo6
Gym: 1 hr weights+30-45 min. cardio
PWO:23g whey+5g glutamine & power bar
2:30: 1 can tuna+2 pieces whole wheat+apple
5:00: 2 caps lipo6+8oz lean meat+5 oz. Brown rice+broccoli or cauliflower
8:00: 1/2 peanuts+5oz. lean meat or fish.
11:30: 23g casein+5g glutamine
12:00: ZMA+rest
(two days lift, one day rest)
chest/bi's, back/tri's, quads/hams, delts/traps***one day abs, one day calves

I drink about 2 gallons of water everday. Nothing else.
I am leaving in August or October. I was going to start another cycle in late June consisting of 500mg Test E+400-600mg of EQ for 12 weeks & pct.
Question 1. Should I do the cycle?
If so: Will I test clean for the physical in October?
Question 2: What kind of training should I be doing to prepare myself to be the best of the best?

Stats are as follows: Age 28, weight 196, height 70 in., bf 14%.
Any advice from you guys would be awesome. Please bro's, help me out. If there's anything on here you think I should change, I am all ears(eyes).

carbs are a LITTLE over 200g looks like...is that all you need or what...that's gonna be tough to maintain

 

[needtogetaas]

Stats are as follows: Age 28, weight 196, height 70 in., bf 14%.

and just so you know ar-600-9 army reg for weight control program, look it up you will need it, says at 70 inches max weight is 185 so you are overweight to the army and will have to get a tape test every time. at your age 22% is max so you will pass easy but they will always give you crap about it, dont get me wrong I love the military my wife is in the army right now. Just please do your homework and pick a good Mos you can live with. If you have any question please ask Ive done 8 years Marine, Army airborne, Ranger, Sfas, my wife is in basic right now and my brother is a 1st sgt in the 82nd and is a Ranger with 19 years in. So please ask tons of questions befor you sign that contract...

you fat fuck.now who is lazzy.I did my time I made ranger bitch.lets see if you can.you fucked with the wrong bro to flame.I will flam you evry chance I get know to.my wife will be flaming you to.next time think befor you send that red my way............................

 

[chefbone]

Whoa....., slow your role, princess. You started talking shit as if I had no chance on making. Dude, you have no idea who I am. Nor do I know who you are. One thing I do know is this, you can't spell to save your life. And if some monkey-fuckin', illiterate douche-bag as yourself has the mental capacity to make it as a Ranger, I am more than certain that I can too.
Have a nice day , Junior.

p.s. If you were a Ranger you should know about covering your tracks, right.
So,if you feel the urge to re-post on this thread again, use a spell check to save yourself from embarassment.

p.p.s Thanks for the bomb

 

[vandelman]

chefbone,

Hey bro.....I did the enlisted thing in the army for 4 years and I'd say the one thing I learned most is how the army works. Vhmarine is right with what he says...you'll become quite familiar with the term "Needs of the Army". That is what is going to happen to you if you fail Ranger or SF school. They do in fact get people in on that idea....very few of them pass the schools...and even fewer of them know that if they don't pass they will be assigned a Military Occupational Skill (MOS) according to the "Needs of the Army". So if you in fact opt for a SF contract...and you fail any part of the school....if the army is in need of cooks...or water transport specialists...guess what job they will assign you. Instead of dodging bullets in the heat of battle...you'll be pulling Kitchen Patrol (KP) in some wasteland desert. Depending on your ASVAB test score you have many options....pick a job...a cool one that you will like......look at all of the ones you are eligable for....ask more questions...to us guys who have been in...and then make an INFORMED decision!! It will pay off in the end. I enlisted as a communications guy.......since then I went the officer route and am an MP. The army is great if you get what you want out of it....cause believe me...Uncle Sam will eventually get what he wants out of you!

As far as lifting goes...notice the trend of what people are telling you...stop lifting weights.....do push-ups....do sit-ups.....and RUN FOREST RUN!!!!! Endurance and mental toughness swill be your greatest weapons in training....and you need to be proficient in training before you will be able to kick ass on the battle field. Good Luck bro......I think its awsome that you want to do your part for our country.......Thanks!!!

 

[chefbone]

Hey V, thanks for the input. I do understand the "Need for the Army" 100%. I don't plan on failing, it just isn't an option.
I have been running 2 miles every morning for the last 2 months. I know this is just a crumb of what I'll be running while I'm in. So, for the past three days, I've added another 2 mile run in the afternoon. Walk, crawl, run(lol). Next week I'll add a third 2 miler at night. Within the next 2-3 months, I should be running 5 miles twice a day. I hope that is not pushing it.
So, I should give up weights? What if I work out light 3 times a week with high reps? I do push-up and sit-ups every morning(50 p-u's in 2 min, 80 s-u's in 2 min). Slowly, but surely, I'll be where I need to be.
Do you have an exact training regimen I should follow? It would be beneficial!!
Thanks

 

[vandelman]

I use to be the Physical Fitness guru at my old unit...so its funny you ask. Let me ask you a few questions...whats the fastest time you can run 2 miles in? Do that and let me know where you are at.

You said you can do 50 push-ups in 2 minutes....well my friend...you need to get that up if you want to max the P.T. test. Your sit-ups are about where they should be, but depending on your age at the time you take your P.T. test you will have to do a few more.

Right now my 2 mile time is 12:23...which is good as i'm going to get...my pushups are at 95 in two minutes and my sit-ups are at 92 in two minutes. I got a buddy who can do over 110 reps in each event...but the dude weighs like 120 lbs and is a little machine. I think i'm at my peak as far as the P.T. test goes.

One of the most important things about push-ups and sit-ups is your form. Most people have jacked up form when it comes to doing proper push-ups and sit-ups. When forced to do them to the Army's Physical Fitness Test standards they find tha they cannot perform as many repititions as they thought they could (I found this out first hand). A guy can think he does 80 push-ups in 2 minutes...but when forced to...move his body up and down in a complete unit...and go all the way down...and come all the way up (to the point of locking out your elbows) they find that their 80 quickly drops to 50. The same goes with the sit-ups. I use to tell my troops that proper form was the most important thing....so first...make sure your form is up to par. have someone watch you do 20 push-ups and have them critique your form...i'm sure your local recruiter would be happy to do this for ya.

As fas as raising your push-ups....push-ups bars work wonders! You can go far lower using push-ups bars than you can putting your palms on the floor. Do all of your push-ups on some bars....and go ALL THE WAY DOWN. After a few weeks you'll find that they are getting easier...so once your body becomes used to the push-ups on the bars you'll find that a regular push-ups is a breeze. 50 proper pushups on a set of bars will will turn into 80 push-ups on the ground!! (catch my drift here?). If you don't have a set of push-up bars use a few books stacked up....or even some dumbells.

I love the pyramid for push-ups.....depending on how many you can do start at 10 reps on a pair of bars...rest for 30 seconds...then do 9.....rest...do 8..all the way down to 1...and then work your way back up to 10. Once you get use to this bump it up to 12...then 14....then 16.... don't forget to incorporate wide-arm push-ups...and close-hand push-ups...you'll get a different burn from all of these. Do a set of 10 pyramids.....regular distance...then a set close-hand...and then a set of wide-arms...you'll get an unbelievable pump from this routine!! If you don't...then I wouldn't worry about passing the P.T. test...you'll be fine.

As far as sit-ups are concerned....they don't really measure abdominal strength.....I mean they do depend on the endurance of yoru abdominals, but most people find that when doing sit-ups their hip-flexors give out way before their abs do. So don't just think that crunches will help you do more sit-ups.....you can't forget them hip-flexors. So for these I had my troops do a lot of flutter kicks....and leg elevations. If your in a gym a decline sit-up bench will work awsome! Do a set of 40 and see what burns more....our abs...or your hip-flexors. This should tell you where you are at. Doing 80 sit-ups in 2 minutes is pretty good according to the Army standards...so I wouldn't worry to much. Just keep doing sit-ups!!! The best thing to help you do more push-ups and sit-ups is doing more push-ups and sit-ups!

As far as your run goes....5 miles two times a day is a little much for me. If your going to do that twice a day i'd just stick to doing push-ups and sit-ups on the side and leave the weights alone. If you can't give up the weights...then i'd just run the 5 once a day...do push-ups and sit-ups...and then lift a few times a week. Like you said...keep it light and you'll be fine. You'll find that mass is not your friend when it comes to endurance....I could ruck march 12 miles in 2 hrs and 8 minutes at 158 lean!!!! (i'm only 5'6") At 186 solid my ruck march time turned to 2 hrs and 48 minutes!!! And my 2-mile run time started to suck! Well bro...thats enough for now...hit me up if you have anymore Q's....laters..

Vandel

 

[vhmarine]

Hey V, thanks for the input. I do understand the "Need for the Army" 100%. I don't plan on failing, it just isn't an option.
I have been running 2 miles every morning for the last 2 months. I know this is just a crumb of what I'll be running while I'm in. So, for the past three days, I've added another 2 mile run in the afternoon. Walk, crawl, run(lol). Next week I'll add a third 2 miler at night. Within the next 2-3 months, I should be running 5 miles twice a day. I hope that is not pushing it.
So, I should give up weights? What if I work out light 3 times a week with high reps? I do push-up and sit-ups every morning(50 p-u's in 2 min, 80 s-u's in 2 min). Slowly, but surely, I'll be where I need to be.
Do you have an exact training regimen I should follow? It would be beneficial!!
Thanks

Hey man If want it bad you will make it and do just fine, go for it and good luck

 

[danaf1]

If I were you I wouldn't worry about bulking up too much. Like a lot of other people said focus on cardio. I am not in the Army but I am in the Air Force stationed at Ramstein, GE, and I have a lot of Army friends. Most special forces guys I have seen coming through here going down range are not what you would consider big in terms of bodybuilding. They are generally solid and very lean. If you spend a lot of time bulking up before you go you will probably lose a lot of it in basic. You are given very little time to eat and you can forget about feeding your muscles six times a day if that is what you do now. You will also be strictly on a running/calesthinic routine so you will not have the excessive weight to challenge your muscles. I think you should pass on the cycle because it will be money wasted due to losing the muscle in basic and not having access to any gear for a while. As far as testing for it, I really don't think they do unless they have reason to believe you are using. Tests for roids have to be performed separately from drug analysis and are very expensive for the goverment. They have too many people to test and that would add up quickly so if you did want to do the cycle you would be safe. I have known of many people to get busted for drug use but am yet to hear of one person testing positive for roids. I hope this helps you at least a little and I have to say you are the man for accepting such a challenge as Ranger training.

 

[chefbone]

Yeah, I've pretty much have made up my mind not to do another cycle. You have a valid point: I'll lose most of the muscle from the cycle in basic anyway. Right now my primary objective is to reduce some bf% and bulid up my endurance. I'm surprised how well I have adjusted to the cardio already. Thanks for the reply and be safe brother.

 

[needtogetaas]

Whoa....., slow your role, princess. You started talking shit as if I had no chance on making. Dude, you have no idea who I am. Nor do I know who you are. One thing I do know is this, you can't spell to save your life. And if some monkey-fuckin', illiterate douche-bag as yourself has the mental capacity to make it as a Ranger, I am more than certain that I can too.
Have a nice day , Junior.

p.s. If you were a Ranger you should know about covering your tracks, right.
So,if you feel the urge to re-post on this thread again, use a spell check to save yourself from embarassment.

p.p.s Thanks for the bomb

they dont care if you can spell or not it mens nothing.is spelling goind to save youre life or the gay in the foxhole next to you.no.you have no clue what youre in for.
I did not mean for my first post to come of like I was saying you couldent make it.I was just saying how hard it was going to be.beleave me they will be saying much werse things to you when you get there so if what I say bothers you.youre fucked....there gonna love fucken with you...hop you ant that fat when you get there.like I said have a nice time bitch.

 

[chefbone]

You're funny.
1. I know what I'm in for. I'm signing up voluntarily, remember?
2. Worse things have been said to me. If you think for one second that your words bother me at all, you're more ignorant than I originally expected.
3. Now listen carefully princess, I am in no way, shape or form fat. 14% bf after bulking for three months is by no means fat. 14% was 6 weeks ago and I've been cutting hardcoreever since.

I'm sorry you're so miserable but please don't take it out on me.

Keep it real Junior, I'll send your illiterate ass a postcard.

Hasta la Bye-Bye, Princess

 

[krishna]

they dont care if you can spell or not it mens nothing.is spelling goind to save youre life or the gay in the foxhole next to you.no.you have no clue what youre in for.
I did not mean for my first post to come of like I was saying you couldent make it.I was just saying how hard it was going to be.beleave me they will be saying much werse things to you when you get there so if what I say bothers you.youre fucked....there gonna love fucken with you...hop you ant that fat when you get there.like I said have a nice time bitch.

I don't agree with either of you using this board to have a pissing contest, but I have to admit, the way you type and the things you say can be pretty hilarious. Never hurts to get a good laugh in.

NOW CHILL FELLAS!

 

[needtogetaas]

You're funny.
1. I know what I'm in for. I'm signing up voluntarily, remember?
2. Worse things have been said to me. If you think for one second that your words bother me at all, you're more ignorant than I originally expected.
3. Now listen carefully princess, I am in no way, shape or form fat. 14% bf after bulking for three months is by no means fat. 14% was 6 weeks ago and I've been cutting hardcoreever since.

I'm sorry you're so miserable but please don't take it out on me.

Keep it real Junior, I'll send your illiterate ass a postcard.

Hasta la Bye-Bye, Princess

you keep using words like princess and throwing out hurts to guys and they will be throwing you out for other ressons.on a better not you are joinig the service so I respact that.I did not mean to make you think I was saying you kouldent make it.lets squash this and good luck I hope you like it.

 

[kahbab]

one day you'll be alone...........

 

[chefbone]

We're cool needtogetas. Just want to know the best thing to do. Let bygones be bygones.

 

[vandelman]

way out their on that combat zone!!!

 

[bicepts101]

imo a cycle is useless. any muscle u have now u can kiss it goodbye. basic will get u pretty lean and u wont be able to eat much. you'll lose a lot of muscle there. for ranger school there is a 3 week pre qual program to go to then i beleive a nine week program. you will be starved, there will be very limited sleep and you look anerexic. im not sure about SF but im sure its worse. so the bottom line is no need for any more muscle.

as far as training goes, ruck marches will be your middle name. so my suggestion is to buy your own ruck sack over the internet( im pretty sure u can. if not just get a big school bag) and fill it with 70 lbs worth of shit. do some of your own marches. work your way up to a 15 mile march. also do some joggin with it on.

as everyone said do cardio like a mofo. buy a pair of army boots so your feet are already use to them when u get there. that will help a lot. PT tests are 2 miles. so practice running 4-6 miles minimum. i know in ranger school they run 8-10.(im pretty sure) practice your basic push ups and sit ups. they are gonna want u to get 100% on every event. so depending on your age its probably around 70 some pushups and 80 some sits ups and around 12 or so for the 2 mile.

some of the stuff i mention may have already been said. if so, my bad. regardless, keep a strong mind, you'll need that more than any of the prep your gonna do. the instructors jobs is to break u down so they can seperate the men from the boys, so to speak. take care and good luck bro. make sure when u finish training, the first chance u get, contact me and let me and the board know how everything went.

 

[needtogetaas]

way out their on that combat zone!!!

bullits flyen evry where.

 

[chefbone]

Yo, moved to a new house and I'm tired. I'm going to run to my dads house(2.5 miles away), swim 100 laps in the pool and run back. Throw in a couple hundred sit-ups and push-ups and that should prove to be a decent workout. Not sure if I should re-carb somewhere in there.

 

[vhmarine]

Yo, moved to a new house and I'm tired. I'm going to run to my dads house(2.5 miles away), swim 100 laps in the pool and run back. Throw in a couple hundred sit-ups and push-ups and that should prove to be a decent workout. Not sure if I should re-carb somewhere in there.

Nice start, If you need a good ruck sack go to www.rangerjoes.com can get boots and ruck there to help. Have you got a SFAS Physical Training Handbook yet? If not see if your recruiter can get you one. For Ranger School I remember takeing the Ranger PT test need to have 280 or above score in the 17-18, so try to work up to 70 pushups 80 situps and under 13 min 2 mile, also 5 mile run in under 35 mins, that was the hard one for me, 7 min miles kicked my butt, there is was also a 15 mile roadmarch in under 3 hours with 75 pound pack. This I think was just for my unit to get to go but is a good look a what you need to be at. Hope this helps some.

 

[needtogetaas]

Nice start, If you need a good ruck sack go to www.rangerjoes.com can get boots and ruck there to help. Have you got a SFAS Physical Training Handbook yet? If not see if your recruiter can get you one. For Ranger School I remember takeing the Ranger PT test need to have 280 or above score in the 17-18, so try to work up to 70 pushups 80 situps and under 13 min 2 mile, also 5 mile run in under 35 mins, that was the hard one for me, 7 min miles kicked my butt, there is was also a 15 mile roadmarch in under 3 hours with 75 pound pack. This I think was just for my unit to get to go but is a good look a what you need to be at. Hope this helps some.

rangerjoes is the shit.
get youreself a gerber to...................

 

[needtogetaas]

You must spread some Karma around before giving it to chefbone again.

 

[danaf1]

One thing I learned in my time was you want everything in writing. I was a squid not in the Army so I'm not completely sure about your contracts, but my opinion you should try to get everything your interested in on there. Remember those are the only things your guaranteed. But I believe you can volunteer for Spec Ops at boot camp, so here the thing. If your in good enough shape now to qual see if they'll let you before you leave if your not wait until boot camp and get in that kind of shape.

I agree. In the military you want everything in writing. If it is told to you or promised or whatever, it doesn't mean shit unless it is in writing. The only things they will give you in writing are minimum commitment lengths, bonus, and an MOS(I am Air Force which is AFSC but I am prettty sure that is Army), neither of which are actually "guaranteed. See, what most people do not know coming in is that when you sign up, be it 18 months or 8 years, you are obligated for up to and possibly longer than 8 years. The contract states in fine print that upon discharge from Active Duty that you can be called back at anytime for service over the 8 year time frame. They can also implement stop-loss which has been known to happen where you cannot leave even if your contract is up. So, especially if you want to try spoecial forces, you can pretty well forget about staying in for only 18 months and add at least a couple years to that. Your MOS can be changed for a variety of reasons i.e. faluire of training and they can do anything they want with you, so you may have signed up for special forces and end up maintaining the plumbing on a deployed base, seriously. What I would suggest, take it or leave it, is to sign up with the Air Force for one of the Special Forces i.e Pararescue, TACP, ect. (go ahead and laugh but they are bad mofo's) and if you fail training at least you will get a better job than in the Army ,most likely, and have a better lifestyle. TACP lives and deploys with Army personnel, so you will still be with the Army if you go that route. Whatever you choose to do, I wish you the best of luck, bro.