help finish my cycle

[monopoly19]

I'm getting ready to run my biggest cycle so far. Here is some previous history.

Have been lifting for 6 years. Started at 6"2 182lbs, got to 6"3 223 naturally. Ran my first cycle roughly 1.5yrs ago. It was 750mg of test for 12 weeks. I ran winny at the end 50mg ed. I got up to 246lbs on this cycle. Sadly, I had a job change and lost most of it due to time constraints. I ran 2 4 weekers with test prop and dbol. This got me solid at 235ish.

I finished at 13 week cutting cycle 7 weeks ago. I ran 250mg of test e for the entire time. Also used t-3 and clen. Got down to a pretty lean 220. Only lost .5in off my arms and calves. Now, I'm looking to bulk again.

I'd like to go for 15 weeks. Test e as a base, 500mg/wk. Also want to run tren. I have some zambons that I thought I'd kick off with. So, this is where I am so far.

wks 1-15 test e 500mg/wk with a frontload
wks 1-8 tren e 350mg/wk
wks 1-4 winny 350mg/wk

Now, I want to add 1 more compound. I am debating between NPP and EQ.

As far as pct goes, I have had good success just tapering down, and running small amounts of adex. I plan on doing the same this cycle. So, with what I have outlined, what would be a better choice? Thanks in advance.

Monopoly

 

[cranny]

Me personaly, I like what you've got already. I see no need to add anything else. You could pos. move the winny towards the end of the cycle. Looks good to me bro.

 

[damnitmannn727]

I'd definitely move the Winny towards the end. But looks good bro.

 

[Apexx]

I agree with cranny. It looks good like it is.

Why do you feel the need to add another compound? What's ur goal with this cycle?

 

[big49ersfan]

add the winny to the end and you have my next cycle i would more inclined to consider primo or eq over deca and eq. as deca and tren will shut you down.


so would be like

weeks 1-15 test e 500mg
weeks 1-8 350mg tren e
weeks 12-17 winny 350mg pw

then eq or primo @ around 600mg pw if at all personally but as i am running the above the cyle i am reocmmending it.

i would contemplate chucking in masteron for the last 4 weeks as well if you are already lean. I will if i have gone below 9% bf and then cycle would be like

weeks 1-15 test e 500mg
weeks 1-8 350mg tren e
weeks 12-17 winny 350mg pw
weeks 14-17 masteron 350mg pw (100 eod)

 

[drrman]

add the winny to the end and you have my next cycle i would more inclined to consider primo or eq over deca and eq. as deca and tren will shut you down.


so would be like

weeks 1-15 test e 500mg
weeks 1-8 350mg tren e
weeks 12-17 winny 350mg pw

then eq or primo @ around 600mg pw if at all personally but as i am running the above the cyle i am reocmmending it.

i would contemplate chucking in masteron for the last 4 weeks as well if you are already lean. I will if i have gone below 9% bf and then cycle would be like

weeks 1-15 test e 500mg
weeks 1-8 350mg tren e
weeks 12-17 winny 350mg pw
weeks 14-17 masteron 350mg pw (100 eod)

bro, test deca and tren all will shut you down, rather you use them together or alone.........

 

[monopoly19]

Thanks for the thoughts so far folks. A couple more questions.

1) why does everyone want to move the winny to the end? I'm not fronting with prop, and didn't want to use an oral. My idea was to kick start the cycle. Also, last time I used it at the end it killed my joints after 12 weeks of pounding it hard.

2) The reason I want to add a second compound is that I don't want to run test alone for 8 weeks. I have been very simple so far, and from what I have seen and read tren should not be run longer than 8 weeks. That's why I want another compound.

Maybe add NPP after I come off the tren? Thoughts? Thanks again.

Monopoly

 

[drrman]

Thanks for the thoughts so far folks. A couple more questions.

1) why does everyone want to move the winny to the end? I'm not fronting with prop, and didn't want to use an oral. My idea was to kick start the cycle. Also, last time I used it at the end it killed my joints after 12 weeks of pounding it hard.

2) The reason I want to add a second compound is that I don't want to run test alone for 8 weeks. I have been very simple so far, and from what I have seen and read tren should not be run longer than 8 weeks. That's why I want another compound.

Maybe add NPP after I come off the tren? Thoughts? Thanks again.

Monopoly

you can run tren longer than 8 weeks........

 

[Apexx]

ur front loading the test to get things moving faster, so I didn't see the need for the winny kick start. But if it kills ur joints at the end, then I guess that's not a good idea. I like the idea of throwing in NPP after stopping the tren. I'd def be running hcg throughout the cycle though.

 

[monopoly19]

you can run tren longer than 8 weeks........

Well you can do anything, but what would be safer and yeild better results. 15 straight weeks of tren, or 8 weeks of tren and 8 weeks of npp? Thanks for the help!

 

[drrman]

Well you can do anything, but would be safer and yeild better results. 15 straight weeks of tren, or 8 weeks of tren and 8 weeks of npp? Thanks for the help!

you don't HAVE to add something when you drop the tren bro.....im no fan of NPP, i would run the tren the entire time personally, at least 10 weeks, tren's toxicity is way over exaggerated bro

 

[monopoly19]

ur front loading the test to get things moving faster, so I didn't see the need for the winny kick start. But if it kills ur joints at the end, then I guess that's not a good idea. I like the idea of throwing in NPP after stopping the tren. I'd def be running hcg throughout the cycle though.

I have been debating using HCG during the cycle. I will not use it for PCT, but might run in once every 7 days for 500iu's after the 8 week mark. Thanks!

monopoly

 

[monopoly19]

you don't HAVE to add something when you drop the tren bro.....im no fan of NPP, i would run the tren the entire time personally, at least 10 weeks, tren's toxicity is way over exaggerated bro

I know I don't have to add anything, I just wanted to

So, maybe I'll do the following. I will plan on running the tren e for the entire length of the cycle. If I find that I'm having physical or mental issues, then I will drop it and switch to the NPP. Any other thoughts or ideas?

Monopoly