heavy pct needed with test only?

[juicer73]

Would someone need to use more than something like nolva or clomid while on nothing but test for 12 wks? Also, how easily does inj test aromatize? Could somone help me with (or help me find) a list of how easily testosterone and oral steroids aromatize? My big question overall I guess is would I need an anti-estrogen while on test alone..?

 

[juicer73]

Or if I would need a big pct on it

 

[Nelson Montana]

There's no such thing as a BIG PCT. You do what you can to get your HPTA up and running. Using MORE HCG will not help in recovery any better or faster. Not using enough of the right supplemennts would be a waste of time. Do it right.

 

[Jbranken]

You sound like you're looking for ways to save a buck and you may regret it if you do. Test shuts you down and a proper pct should be in place to bring back your hpta. A serm alone is not sufficient for pct and test def aromatizes so have aromasin at least on hand in case estro related sides surface. Forma stanzol, daa, creatine, methyl EAA, test infusion, keto burn... << all great options for pct

 

[Dk350]

don't cut corners when it comes to your pct bro. I would also go with some pharm grade stuff with some high quality otc supps like unleashed, hcggenerate, and formastanzol.

 

[JINX2898]

i do test only cycles and take Nelsons advice.....im on N2guard while ON in week 6 add hcgenerate...along with 12.5 a-sin every 3 days while ON....end of cycle i continue with a-sin n2guard and add post cycle and unleashed then follow with bridge this cycle im trying d spark

 

[Nelson Montana]

You sound like you're looking for ways to save a buck and you may regret it if you do. Test shuts you down and a proper pct should be in place to bring back your hpta. A serm alone is not sufficient for pct and test def aromatizes so have aromasin at least on hand in case estro related sides surface. Forma stanzol, daa, creatine, methyl EAA, test infusion, keto burn... << all great options for pct

Creatine and keto burn have nothing to do with PCT. This can be confusing to the OP.

Keep it simple, you can't go wrong with the UNLEASHED/POST CYCLE stack followed by BRIDGE.

 

[notjake11]

Creatine and keto burn have nothing to do with PCT. This can be confusing to the OP.

Keep it simple, you can't go wrong with the UNLEASHED/POST CYCLE stack followed by BRIDGE.

Actually they do, but not in the sense of rebooting test production. Both help with solidifying your gains made during the cycle, which is a pretty important aspect of PCT in my personal opinion.

 

[buddhabuilder]

And the way the op stated "need to use" about PCT products. A good cycle, where you have your diet and training totally together and your gear works to support your gaining lean muscle and strength, includes a full, well timed PCT. This will set the stage for you to keep and maintain your hard earned gains as you stabilize your natural hpta system.

 

[stevesmi]

it is a myth bantered around fitness forums that test isn't suppressive. not sure where people get this idea from but it is 100% false. i've also heard from people that running test during cycle prevents suppression which is dangerous and silly advice and causes newbs to assume if they use test in a cycle they don't even need pct... WRONG!! WRONG!! WRONG!!. test is the EXTREMELY suppressive. in fact according to bloods i have seen from myself and other guys test will send your LH to 0 within 3 weeks which is faster than any other AAS out there. yes even tren. don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

yes you definately need a good pct. and I highly recommend using hcg to kickstart pct. people who skimp out on hcg are blowing a huge opportunity.. hcg will mimic LH which will send your T levels up very nicely and get you ready for pct.