Have you ever had a same-sex experience?

[HansNZ]

OK, this is for all people whether or not they consider themselves straight or gay.

The poll is anonymous so everyone can vote and no one has to admit anything openly.

By same sex experience I mean any sexual behaviour at all with someone of the same sex. It doesn't have to mean you went "all the way". It may mean that you just reached into some guys pants and jerked him off for a while or maybe passionately kissed someone of the same sex in a SEXUAL, not platonic manner.

Be honest!

 

[HansNZ]

Interesting... 7 views so far, but no one is voting. Despite the fact that this is anonymous people prefer not to answer rather than to admit anything to themselves, just in case it makes it "real".

Scientific studies show that most people have dabbled.

 

[Mad4Iron]

Well,Like the last 6 times I tried to vote on polls it comes up "Invalid session" or some non-sense.

Maybe others are having the same prob.

No,never touched another man in a sexual way nor would I even think of it.I had an Italian bro who did the kiss the cheek deal but he was as gay as I.

I had a bro years back I knew 2 years before he told me he was gay,Good guy and It didn't bother me a bit as I know what I am and what I want and he was the same way.

There ya go,sorry no "Dabblin'" here

Mad

 

[HULKSTER]

Yeah, I'm as straight as a pencil.

 

[VooDoo Lady]

It may mean that you just reached into some guys pants and jerked him off for a while or maybe passionately kissed someone of the same sex in a SEXUAL, not platonic manner.

Yummy!! I've dabbled a bit here and there - just for fun.

 

[Puddles]

I think more women are willing to admit to these kinds of feelings because it's more socially acceptable right now. Give it another 50 yrs and things may change. Our grandchildren will certainly grow up with different social norms.

 

[HansNZ]

I think more women are willing to admit to these kinds of feelings because it's more socially acceptable right now. Give it another 50 yrs and things may change. Our grandchildren will certainly grow up with different social norms.

I agree. People find woman on woman action compatible with female sexuality and somewhat tantalising. Men suffer from society's prejudice that there is something unmanly about male same sex activities.

 

[HansNZ]

I had a bro years back I knew 2 years before he told me he was gay,Good guy and It didn't bother me a bit as I know what I am and what I want and he was the same way.

Mad

Good for you. My best friend had issues with me when I came out to him. He was stuck with this idea that because I was gay and he was a man that I must automatically want to have sex with him.

He said as a straight man he tends to see all women (even those he's not attracted to) as sex objects. So he figured that everyone does this. This is silly since he knows how particular my taste is.

Probably only 1 in 20 men take my interest. The others can just continue to flatter themselves if they assume otherwise.

 

[Mad4Iron]

No,he was too good a friend to lose it over that shit.Miss the fuck as he moved to Cali and we lost touch.

When he told me I really wasn't affected,I was surprised as shit(As I had no Idea) but it didn't affect how I looked at him.

It was the same as a dude that is into black girls,I aint but if that's what ya dig,go for it.

Mad

 

[slobberknocker]

Never dabbled. I prefer the pussy. Whatever floats your boat, though.


Interesting point about social norms, etc. In this society, a lot of people view male homosexuality as "sissy," or whatever. If you do a little research, you learn that it wasn't always so. The ancient Spartan warriors, for example, were all bisexual. I highly doubt anyone made fun of those bad-ass motherfuckers.

 

[KnoXville]

I'm as straight as a pencil.

 

[HansNZ]

Interesting point about social norms, etc. In this society, a lot of people view male homosexuality as "sissy," or whatever. If you do a little research, you learn that it wasn't always so. The ancient Spartan warriors, for example, were all bisexual. I highly doubt anyone made fun of those bad-ass motherfuckers.

This is so true. In ancient Greek society only a man could be a "real" lover for a "real" man because women were considered inferior. Sexual activities among the soldiers was considered quite normal and desirable.

 

[Bigsatan13]

This is so true. In ancient Greek society only a man could be a "real" lover for a "real" man because women were considered inferior. Sexual activities among the soldiers was considered quite normal and desirable.

In Stuff magazine there is a book review on how gay pirates were. Maybe that's where the term Butt Pirate comes from?

 

[Friscochick]

In Stuff magazine there is a book review on how gay pirates were. Maybe that's where the term Butt Pirate comes from?

Your something else love! LOL

 

[gsxr1000]

I think more women are willing to admit to these kinds of feelings because it's more socially acceptable right now. Give it another 50 yrs and things may change. Our grandchildren will certainly grow up with different social norms.

I sure hope that you are wrong about that.

 

[Sinistar]

perhaps male on male sex isnt well recieved cause it has to be the ugliest thing ever to watch. not trying to hate here.

another guy says in 50 years or so, guys will be able to be gay as well. why? if your going from women exp with it, im sorry but women have alot of things guys never will.

another thing is, that guys wont goto bat for each other over this shit. however, if this gay plague with women contiinue, this may be different.

thats another post though.

 

[drgoodbody]

well...

sorry to disappoint, but I'm so hetero that it would hurt your head to think about it... oh, and I plan to keep it that way.

to each his own (or her own...)

DrG

 

[Deepsquat]

Not me. But I have been hit on numurous times by men...my wife says it happens to me more often then she gets hit on ( Trust me, any straight male would want to tag my wife, she is beautiful)
Guys just want me ..what can i say !@ Anyway I have turned them all daon...once turned down a foursome..because one of the other 3 was a guy...to this day I regret not asking " What is he going to be doing?"
hell if he just wanted to jerk off while I was tagging his girlfriend , and her friend..I wou.d have done it!

 

[slobberknocker]

SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN BOTHERING ME FOR A WHILE:


If you clone yourself, and then have sex with your clone, are you gay or masturbating?

 

[Sinistar]

hey hanz, i just thought of something: are you serious about this shit, or is this another clever gay trolling for ass post? the similarity between this and say, a post your tits thread, are disturbing.

 

[HansNZ]

hey hanz, i just thought of something: are you serious about this shit, or is this another clever gay trolling for ass post? the similarity between this and say, a post your tits thread, are disturbing.

LOL, since I live on the other side of the world I assure you that there are easier ways to "troll for ass" than stalking bi-curious americans on the internet, hehe.

 

[HansNZ]

Not me. But I have been hit on numurous times by men...my wife says it happens to me more often then she gets hit on ( Trust me, any straight male would want to tag my wife, she is beautiful)
Guys just want me ..what can i say !@ Anyway I have turned them all daon...once turned down a foursome..because one of the other 3 was a guy...to this day I regret not asking " What is he going to be doing?"
hell if he just wanted to jerk off while I was tagging his girlfriend , and her friend..I wou.d have done it!

Well if that is you in your avatar I can see why you get so much attention. In any case you experiences show that you are well adjusted because you take the attention you get from guys as a compliment rather than getting upset about it.

 

[***]

i messed around with a 6yr old boy... when i was 7yrs old. does that count? i would say no because i think i was too young to understand sexuality and sexual behavior. never dabbled after puberty, so i don't know how to vote in this poll...

 

[THeMaCHinE]

.once turned down a foursome..because one of the other 3 was a guy...to this day I regret not asking " What is he going to be doing?"
hell if he just wanted to jerk off while I was tagging his girlfriend , and her friend..I wou.d have done it!

I hate those times you look back on and think ... dammit, I shoulda done that ...

In my pre-marriage days, I once turned down two (hot) girls who asked me for a ride home from the grocery store ... In the car, one girl was like "it's my friend's birthday, I think we should give her a present ..." I had a suspicion they were younger than they told me ... so I turned it down (that, and I had a gf at the time -- albeit a crumbling relationship). Still have mixed feelings on that one, but I'm pretty sure I did the right thing.

Would it have bothered you if the dude was taggin one girl while you were with the other, then switch; and (obviously) he made no contact with you?

 

[Deepsquat]

yeah, would still bother me , don't want to stick my dick were another just was...except her mouth!

 

[HansNZ]

bump

 

[mojohobo]

No way. Never. I don't even like going to gay parades.
Here's what one would look like I imagine.

 

[The Whole F/N Show]

It's pretty amazing how right now the result for both men and women who tried same sex experiences are exactly half of those who haven't. Honestly I didn't think it would be that high for the men.

 

[ghee]

I heard about that pirate book. From what I recall, it was mostly just assuming the guys all went wild on each other since there were generally no women around. There's no evidence from back then that they did or didn't turn their ships into the cornhole-a-go-go once they left port.

 

[vixenbabe]

Nope, never have been with someone from the same sex.

Women are beautiful. Never found an interest (sexually) with any woman though! I have some friends who are drop dead beautiful too.

I read about all the women on here who are into other women. (Not judging anyone- I just wonder why I do not get turned on by women)I must be strange cuz they do not do anything for me!

Women rock...But....MEN RULE IN MY BOOK! Actually... Two men would be even better!

 

[THeMaCHinE]

Nope, never have been with someone from the same sex.

Women are beautiful. Never found an interest (sexually) with any woman though! I have some friends who are drop dead beautiful too.

I read about all the women on here who are into other women. (Not judging anyone- I just wonder why I do not get turned on by women)I must be strange cuz they do not do anything for me!

Women rock...But....MEN RULE IN MY BOOK! Actually... Two men would be even better!

I think that's a pretty common frame with a lot of females -- however, if you're with your male partner and you're both with another (beautiful) woman, you might find it much more interesting. As for the two guy thing, what's holding you up?

 

[vixenbabe]

I think that's a pretty common frame with a lot of females -- however, if you're with your male partner and you're both with another (beautiful) woman, you might find it much more interesting. As for the two guy thing, what's holding you up?

What's holding me up from the two males in the sack?Easy answer: My hubby..He's not the type who likes to share his wife in that aspect! He'd not EVEN like sharing me with another woman. But... I can still have some great "alone" time thoughts about it, right?

Would I find it more interesting with another man, or for him to find it more interesting with another woman? I really do not think that another person could provide something "different" than what he already does for me, or I do for him. He'll admit that I'm enough work..He'd drop dead if he had to service two women - lol

I guess we both, me more than him, had several sexual partner's in our single days. I do not think the "acts" of sex have changed in those year's..Sooo..What really would be different? Keepin your sex life spicey and fun is VERY key, and it does not have to involve anyone else either. We may be wrong..but it works for us.

Besides, it would take toooo much work to get to know/trust another person for them to enter our life in such an important role. It would take MORE than a few months of trust BEFORE it would happen. Damn, how does one even find that type of person? I'd be clueless to that type of recruit! Ads? Poster's? lol

Face it...YOU can't just hop in the sack with anyone now a days. If I'm THAT bored with him..I may as well as just tell him to get lost and I'll be single again and not have to worry about how many people enter my bed.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

Lol -- I forgot you are married -- my bad! Yes, I agree, a spouse would be a very big reason not to

An excellent and respectful answer. I applaud you. I think you hit it on the head for most relationships.

I don't think you're wrong at all -- it sounds like you value your relationship quite a bit and have a level head on your shoulders; I agree that you need to keep your sex life spiced up in marriage, and that there are many, many ways to do that without including others in your relationship. I think including other partners is the exception, not the norm for most marriages.

Good stuff!

 

[HansNZ]

Women rock...But....MEN RULE IN MY BOOK! Actually... Two men would be even better!

Does your two man fantasy involve them giving all the attention to you, or do you find the idea of them enjoying eachother as well as you appealing?

Just curious.

 

[vixenbabe]

Does your two man fantasy involve them giving all the attention to you, or do you find the idea of them enjoying eachother as well as you appealing?

Just curious.

Hanz...It's allll 'bout MEEE! I'd want all the attention from them!

Damn, what a selfish thing to admit huh? I can assure you I'm NOT selfish in real life, but after all, this is ONLY a fantasy so I'll do it MY way in said fantasy!


Machine... I have to say once again, I'm not judging anyone else in regards to above matter. It just blows my mind when I think about the finding the right person/s. Too big a risk -EVEN FOR THIS RISK TAKER!!! You know what I mean- I'm sure!

Someone, at some point in time during the "fun", has to feel like the fat, ugly kid sittin on the sidelines during a threesome. How do ya stop and make sure everyone is staying "happy"? lol

 

[THeMaCHinE]

It just blows my mind when I think about the finding the right person/s. Too big a risk -EVEN FOR THIS RISK TAKER!!! You know what I mean- I'm sure!

Someone, at some point in time during the "fun", has to feel like the fat, ugly kid sittin on the sidelines during a threesome. How do ya stop and make sure everyone is staying "happy"? lol

Yeah, I tend to believe that there are certainly risks, emotional and physical. I completely empathize with what you are saying. It is very valid and thoughtful.

I would think that clear communication between all parties and especially between you and your SO about what is acceptable, what is not, how to call it off if not going well, what conditions it takes to proceed, if doing that sort of thing is good for your relationship, if both people in the relationship are really OK with it, if the risks are worth it, etc... would help ward off the "fat kid on the sideline" syndrome.

I would imagine that this isn't an area that you would "take one for the team" -- in other words, do something at the expense of your feelings and morals for the sake of what you perceive to be your partner's happiness/indulgence.

I also believe that the bonds of marriage are a very sacred and special thing, and that the marriage itself should be protected above the interest of any individual in the marriage. If there is even an inkling that this type of activity would be damaging to the marriage, then it should not be considered.

Human emotions and relationships can be very fragile things. Sometimes, it's best not pushing the envelope.

 

[jwill3:16]

I think more women are willing to admit to these kinds of feelings because it's more socially acceptable right now. Give it another 50 yrs and things may change. Our grandchildren will certainly grow up with different social norms.

I think its more natural for woman then it is males

 

[justyxxxx]

Well, I'm gay and at one time me and a girlfriend of mine would hang out together and occasionally we'd pick up a guy (yes - together). They were supposedly straight, but guys will do quite a bit for, well, you know, the puddy cat. And yes, these guys would do things to me, too. I can honestly say that I've had JUST AS MANY supposedly straight guys as gay guys. And you'd never know that they'd even think about doing anything with a guy. I'm not saying that every guy would be like this (I certainly hope not because there's definitely some ugly ones that can stay on the "other side"), but there's plenty of "straights" that'll play . . .
TRUST ME. And that's no lie. A quick story - a couple of straight guys have said to me "I just don't see why a guy would do anything with another guy . . . that's just gross". They found out later. HA!

 

[HansNZ]

This is interesting so far. For every 29 guys who have never dabbled, there are 20 that have.

 

[Robert Jan]

When I found out how to masterbate at a real young age i thought i invented the shit and i told this dude my age how to and he tried it. I touched his wang, not even jerk just touch more like a slap. I`m not sure how old we were. too young to understand anything about sex anyway. i dont even think we knew what copulation was. For a long time it drove me mad I remembered i did this and i wished i had just dreamt it or some shit.

I can see how it doesn`t matter now tho.

 

[jubei]

Alot of gay guys assume they are attractive because they look feminine but that actually looks like shit. A man should ideally look hansome and strong, not like a little girl. Also most gay men are sissy and lack substance and grit.

I'm not gay bashing and I know there are probably alot of cool gay guys out there. I just dislike when homosexuals assume they are somehow enlightened and that every man really wants to be gay but is just scared of what society will think. If that were the case nobody would use AAS either. The way I look at it a couple of gay guys is great because that means the ratio of women to men is now 3 to 1 in my favor, and I like those odds.

 

[***]

i voted already, but i'll come out and say that i have never dabbled. it only happened once in my dreams, but that's it.

dear god hansnz, what's that in your new avatar?

 

[Spotter]

As if I needed to be enouraged to flirt more - those are good odds. I'd be curious when those who dabbled did so...high school, college, etc... Gay, bi, or straight, people like to be looked at, regardless of whose doing the looking. Where it goes from there is another story. In the meantime, I'll keep spotting. Hope all you guys appreciate the compliment.

 

[jubei]

So squatter spotter but I would rather gay guys not look this way, and if they did I would hope it would be discreet and I wouldn't notice.

 

[Spotter]

That's fine and I support that feeling. I'd certainly agree that any unwelcome overt attention could make the purpose of the gym frustrating. However, with the sexual poll at nearly 50-50 for men who have dabbled (at a minimum), I think your previous comment that gay men or too feminine and that its unattractive are: 1) true (now that's just my opinion that we happen to share) but 2) makes my point that there a lot of men out there who do pass as masculine and straight regardless of how you'd like to divide them out in your minds. Guys like me who work in construction, summit mountains regularly as a summer hobby, have replaced their own posi-trac in their jeep, .... may actually unnerve you even more. Its my unscientific opinion that for every overtly feminine gay you spot (and why are they at the gym anyway?) represent only a minority fraction, say 15% (a total SWAG). But, as with any stereotype, its typically the minority that defines the majority and that my friend is what really makes life so interesting. Still keeping my eyes overted, but it doesn't mean I didn't see you. You were too busy watching the fem=boy to notice, though.

 

[jubei]

Well the fact that you drive a jeep kind of gives it away. I do get the point however, there are alot of guys you would never suspect (Rock Hudson for example) I was speaking more the the lipsy voiced fruit cake silver shirt wearing queers who just have to be gay. What is it that makes them (flaming fags) act so femme anyways?

Just for the record, I have nothing against gay men at all. As I said earlier its actually benificial to me to have less men around, although competition doesn't bother me.

 

[triplesixmaf]

i think it may make you gay even to be looking at this post. oh shit wait

 

[Puddles]

I think its more natural for woman then it is males

I think women are naturally more nurturing and touchy/feely and that spills over to sexual issues. Look at the way parents deal with their children...a little kid gets a scrape on their knee and the dad is more likely to tell the kid it's no big deal and to put a band-aid on it, but the mom is more likely to give a hug and kiss the booboo.

 

[flexygrl]

I hope to one day.

 

[SanFrancisconewb]

There is very little homophobia on this board which i am somewhat surprised by but then i thought about the fact that the men are here and they worship other men's or their own bodies .

 

[WarriorPL]

I hope to one day.

 

[triplesixmaf]

does suckin a cock make u gay?

 

[Devastation]

i've been with two women at the same time a couple times. no dudes though.

 

[nvrbuffenuff_girl]

I dated a girl for five months.

 

[nvrbuffenuff_girl]

>I dated a girl for five months

Thought you said you had a bf for the past 3 years and finally lost your virginity like this April (???).

Your sexuality is whacked.

-= nav =-

Yes I did have a boyfriend for over three years. We broke up in April. I did lose my virginity to him in April as well.

I dated this girl for five months prior to all this.

 

[WarriorPL]

Wow i wish i had some lesbos in HS.

 

[nvrbuffenuff_girl]

No, I was not in highschool when I was 17 first of all.

I was also not 17 when I dated her.

 

[rnch]

I'm not gay. But there's this really cute big huge black teddy bear bouncer at a club i go to. He's short but fat and big, and just the warmest of people. I always walk up to him and give him a BIIIGGGGGGG ol' hug and then give him a good smack on the shoulders. We all call him Bear cuz that's what he reminds us of. And he's so funny and cool.

So i guess i'm a non-sexual homosexual.

-= nav =-

far too many uptight, terrifed, insecure about their own sexuality men confuse feelings of friendship and/or affection for another guy as being "gay". BULLSHIT!!!! you like who you like in this world; why does sex have to be the defining issue in our mind???

not flaming you personally, nav, just a lot of guys in general........."OMG, i like him a lot, i hugged him last night when we were both drunk, does this make me gay?" .....this sorta thing....

this mostly american mindset makes a LOT of money for head shrinkers.

 

[obiwan9962]

sex is sex!
i am bi
i love sex with either and/or both

 

[kingsbury]

boys

I just love screwing hot guys. Pussy is so gross

 

[MULE1]

A man having sex with another man or a woman is a violent act. two women having sex is not, it's a thing of beauty, just as a womans body is much more pleasing to the eye. when a man fucks anothe man it's a sign of domination, why do you think men want to fuck women in the ass, it feels almost the same as the vagina but there is a power rush behind it.....

Only one penis in my camp...

 

[kingsbury]

uh huh

That's certainly your opinion. I don't really agree with it. Also, I don't think straight women who like to watch gay porn would agree with you either. I think your opinion is basically a male heterocentrist view. I just simply disagree. I have sex with someone not to violate them, I do it because I love them and I want to be as close to them as possible.

 

[Tiervexx]

Re: uh huh

That's certainly your opinion. I don't really agree with it. Also, I don't think straight women who like to watch gay porn would agree with you either. I think your opinion is basically a male heterocentrist view. I just simply disagree. I have sex with someone not to violate them, I do it because I love them and I want to be as close to them as possible.

I second that.

I have had a boy friend before, but he was not very attractive, and we had nothing in common, I only whent out with him because he is the only gay guy i ever meet.

 

[russian_power]

Fucking a guys shit hole? No thanks. I'll take the sweet, beatifull pussy, and I'll pop her beautifull butt anyday, but i'd rather kill myself than fuck a guy. Do gay guys have some sort of mental disorder or possibly brain damage?

 

[Tiervexx]

No.

We are on a much higher mental plane than you. We see that women and men make bad couples because of the great difference between us, and we don't need to contribute to over-population.

 

[russian_power]

Ok I was a bit harsh. However; I do have a theory. Maybe homosexuals are natures of way of population control or, maybe there is a bad gene that your body dissalows to be passed on by making you a homosexual. Either way, it's still grose.

 

[Tiervexx]

Ok I was a bit harsh. However; I do have a theory. Maybe homosexuals are natures of way of population control or, maybe there is a bad gene that your body dissalows to be passed on by making you a homosexual. Either way, it's still grose.

better

 

[Monkey Pox]

But still stupid.

 

[kingsbury]

um

homosexuality is common in many species of animals and has not been found to result in any psychological problems anymore so than heterosexuality. If you think its gross, I understand, thats because you're straight. I think a vagina is disgusting and would never screw a woman in a million years, but thats why I'm gay.

 

[jubei]

For a man to think a womans body is sexually disgusting is a perversion of natural human sexuality. I am not saying that homosexuality in itself is disgusting (regardless of my own personal objections) but humans "should" come genetically programmed to be attracted to the opposite sex.

This being said I believe people are a product of their environment and we have also evolved past our natural instincts quite some time ago.

 

[Tiervexx]

Re: um

homosexuality is common in many species of animals and has not been found to result in any psychological problems anymore so than heterosexuality. If you think its gross, I understand, thats because you're straight. I think a vagina is disgusting and would never screw a woman in a million years, but thats why I'm gay.

I am curious, what types of animals are more likely to be gay?

 

[triplesixmaf]

i agree with the theory that something is wrong. but also ive seen men who are very attractive dudes and seem to have great genes and are totally gay. but dont you gay guys have any problem with the idea that you wont carry your genes into the next generation? unless its in some shit covered condom in a back alley. jk can anyone answer that . i can see why someone would be bi. just like sexual experamentation. but that person still likes the opposite sex and able to carry their genes on. its human nature to want to make your mark in the world and carry your genes on with a strong member of the oposite sex, but if your just into men whats the point of sex subconsciencly? i think its a perversion, i think its confusion from a young age. its just not normal period. but if your bi i think it may be a little different. how can you not see a hot girl and be like omg! they smell soo good! ugh you guys are crazy.

 

[Tiervexx]

i agree with the theory that something is wrong. but also ive seen men who are very attractive dudes and seem to have great genes and are totally gay. but dont you gay guys have any problem with the idea that you wont carry your genes into the next generation? unless its in some shit covered condom in a back alley. jk can anyone answer that . i can see why someone would be bi. just like sexual experamentation. but that person still likes the opposite sex and able to carry their genes on. its human nature to want to make your mark in the world and carry your genes on with a strong member of the oposite sex, but if your just into men whats the point of sex subconsciencly? i think its a perversion, i think its confusion from a young age. its just not normal period. but if your bi i think it may be a little different. how can you not see a hot girl and be like omg! they smell soo good! ugh you guys are crazy.

Good questions. I think AAP did a very good job of explaining it when he said:

“Yes. Although I enjoyed sex with a woman as much as I later did with men, it came down to not who I wanted to fuck, but rather who I wanted to wake up next to.

A lot of people don't understand that homosexual attraction is not purely just on the sex. I prefered men, the sex was secondary.”

 

[gabriel1475]

Dear God and supple baby Jesus!
What`s wrong with you people????????

I came here to learn about diet and fitness....only to be suBjected to THIS????

I, myself, am a good god-fearing NORMAL heterosexual man...and dont see how a discussion of this nature is helpfull to anyone. It is only promoting a hedonistic lifestyle that goes against what Jesus and the scriptures say.

"a man who layeth with another man...shall be put to death"

See???
The bible doesnt lie, you bitchnecks. If you ass-ponys put as much time and effort into reading the good book...as you do into subversive ass-piracy...this would be a better world.

Repent now sinners......or the hand of god will reach deep into each and every oriface on your worthlesss carcasses and render you lame!





...and just for the record....I am straight......very straight. Those here who know me might bring up the (very) few times during childhood where I was forced to show the police where the bad man touched me, on a doll. But.....now that much time has passed, I am quite certain that I made much of those accusations up. I dont think Father McDonald really did those things to me. Its like when you dream sometimes.....but it seems so real.

And others might point thier fingers at me and say........."hey, how can you be so judgmental of this topic when you yourself worked as a gay prostitute when you were younger"? Well...I guess it might look like the pot calling the kettle black on the outside, but you need to realize I was only doing it to make ends meet....(dispite the fact that I continued to do it, even after the ends were meeting really well).

Oh....and some might have a problem with my viewpoint, considering I was arrested for fondling a strangers genitalia on a subway. I`ll have you all know I was never convicted of that!

And damnit....I only spend time in the leather bars cause this one really nice bartender is the only one who knows how to make a martini the way I like it! Thats the only reason!!!

And those that knew my former wife, she did not leave me because she found me having sex with my cousin Steven. He had a sore back, and I was simply giving him a nice oil massage! She just assumed that because we just happened to be doing it without clothes.

Anyways, I digress. Read your bibles sinners......and repent!

I have spoken.

 

[Tiervexx]

gabriel1475, just stop now. You are an idiot.

 

[jubei]

WTF??

 

[kingsbury]

animals

For an instance of animals that practice homosexuality there are certain types of primates among many other types of animals. Also, someone said it was a perversion of nature for a man not to find attraction to a woman? I think it is kinda silly to say something like that since we don't even know where our sexual orientation comes from. We can theorize and all that, but we don't really understand it yet. We don't even know very much about how our brains work. I don't think its a perversion to be gay, its just a natural outcome like heterosexuality. And, yes it does bother me that I won't be able to "carry on my seed" with someone I love. But, that doesn't create a sexual desire for women in me. If I was to have sex with a woman, it would be purely for the creation of a child. But, for some reason I don't think a woman would be willing to do that unless I was michael jackson. Also, homosexuality is nothing new, its been around since the beginnings of recorded history so its obviously not the result of some modern changes. I forgot what my was...so I'm goingt to stop typing

 

[jubei]

Kingsbury you need to come up with something better than that, you last post was garbage. If all these animals which you weren't able to name were gay how did they reproduce? Maybe it was artificial incemination. The possibility for a bi-sexual animal is much more likely however I do not know of any off hand.

What don't you understand about the male-female attraction? Humans, just like every other animal on the planet are attracted to the opposite sex because it is a survival instinct. Sex is inticing and feels good so people will do it. Why do you think food tastes good? Just because there are many people with eating disorders doesn't mean its natural.

You may be able to get a similar feeling from fucking another guy but thats not what the ass was made for.

 

[Spruceman]

"I came here to learn about diet and fitness....only to be suBjected to THIS????" "hedonistic lifestyle that goes against what Jesus and the scriptures say.

"a man who layeth with another man...shall be put to death""
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This is the Elite Between the Sheets forum -- content obvious from the title. If you check the list of forums at this site, there are many that deal exclusively with diet, supplementation, training, and other fitness subjects. One can avoid discussions they find unpleasant by making sure they enter the correct forum and carefully check the list of threads in the forum. I believe the topic of this thread is listed clearly enough that if the subject of homosexuality is offensive to you, you could easily have avoided it.

As for the Biblical proclamations against homosexuality: even if they were true, they might pertain to the fact that in both cases it was where the population under exhortation was small and in danger of extinction. Not a situation where the world is literally bursting at its seams due to the overbreeding of the species. And BTW, Jesus never spoke against gay sex. He did, however, speak against adultry -- something which about 50% of the heterosexual adult male population engages in.

As to the cleanliness of the pussy vs the dirtiness of the ass, why is there such a market for vaginal deodorants and none on the market for asses? Both holes seem pretty dirty to me, especially when they are not kept clean, but one seems to propagate its smell more strongly than the other, based on the sales of all those deodorant and cover-up sprays they sell.

 

[Monkey Pox]

Dude was correct about gay animals, there are lots of them apparently. I just happened to be listening to this interview with this biologist researcher lady and she wrote a book about the strange sexual behaviors of animals. The gay animals were by far the most boring ones of the things she mentioned. Animals are some freaks!

 

[Monkey Pox]

Book in question is called "Dr. Tatiana's Sex Advice to All Creation"
by evolutionary biologist Olivia Judson. Some hilarious and interesting stuff in there. Humans got nothing on any of these creatures on their craziest day.

 

[jubei]

WTF is this homo central? Gay line is down the hall to the left... : (

 

[kingsbury]

population

as noted above, it is logical to assume that homosexuality is a natural way for nature to curb overpopulation as we have today. Really, its straight people that cause a lot of the problems today, overpopulation, hunger, AIDS in africa, if there weren't so many of them damn straights screwing like jackrabbits this world would be a nicer place. Anyway, I'm just kidding, calm down heteros

 

[jubei]

All I'm saying is that males and females should be attracted to each other. Anything else is personal choice and quite frankly none of my business.

 

[kingsbury]

bhu

I guess I'll just have to kindly disagree

 

[Monkey Pox]

Why should anyone care who anyone else is having sex with or is attracted to? Unless of course they it's some woman trying to have an affair with your wife.

 

[kingsbury]

because

people love to judge others and make themselves feel superior

 

[triplesixmaf]

cause gay people are icky, dicks are for chicks

 

[tonyp]

of course dicks are for chicks. whattafuck do ya think sex is about in essence--reproduction. the pleasure is to ensure reproduction of the species, whatever it is. of course there are mutations and variations. but the bottom line is, poke, prod, use your bod and stick your dick in a chick to keep the juices flowin' and humanity goin'.

 

[Luca Reinheart]

I had a gay dream about a friend of mine...

I havent dabbled at all though, but I think I may be by-sexual. If I were to tell this friend about my dream, how do you think he would react? I kinda feel that he feels the same way so how would I go about talking to him about it?

 

[Tiervexx]

I had a gay dream about a friend of mine...

I havent dabbled at all though, but I think I may be by-sexual. If I were to tell this friend about my dream, how do you think he would react? I kinda feel that he feels the same way so how would I go about talking to him about it?

First you need to find out if he is homophobic. If he is very accepting you can just go ahead and tell him he is attractive. The worst thing that could happen is he will get flattered but turn you down.

Obviously if he is homophobic you just have to keep it to yourself.

 

[Luca Reinheart]

How can I find out if he's a homophobe without tipping him off to anything?

 

[thepi]

if you payed attention in school you realized at one point that there is so much diversity in this world and the world accomodates ... there is simplicty and diversity ... who told the DNA to unfold and the mRNA to come? good old Jesus? ... maybe ... because we can't still explain so many precise, mind blowing things that happen in nature and in us .. gay guys are a natural occurance as much as you and me .. I would go as far as saying that buch lesbians are a natural occurance as much as you and me ... there is only one thing though I can be sure of and that is that i'll never have sex with a butch lesbian ... what do you think are the odds of that? anyhow, in my eyes, women are the most beautifull thing in the world ... they bitch and all that but they are ergonometrically fine and they smell nice... i always felt like I wanted to stick something in between their legs and cover my face in a mount of curls ... very naughty Jesus if he programmed me like that ... all in all sex is for nirvana and not necesserly for procreating in this day and age .. and yeh .. I appreciate male power/beauty too ... all of you here do otherwise you won't wana transform your bodies into works of art ... regarding same sex experiences .. my best friend whom I've knowen since kindergarden, is the most handsome man I've ever seen and I've seen a few good looking guys ... my gf goes all soft when he comes by; I'm not gelous because I know even Jesus, in this case, would go soft on article 19: Genesis; he's straight and he dates she-bitch-from-hell who's as ugly as shit; I saw him naked he saw me naked we slept in the same bed and all that; I never thought about him sexually though; the interesting thing is that if we were to fool around (-: i think it would be no problem; he would go for it in a heart beat - sort of Dali and Lorca thing - this is as funny as shit

 

[solidspine]

Twice, both time after a certain amount of fun but very illegal street drugs,. Don't tell my friends, but it was actually very enjoyable, maybe at 53 I am turning gay?

 

[SC4EVA]

Its all good!

 

[Dando30]

Yup sure have- plenty of times and what's the big deal? Jesus Christ if people worried less about other people's business and spent more time keeping their own shit n order the world would be a better place. All this- you can't do that you can't do this...blar blar blar is for shit. Whatever goes on between consenting ADULTS is fine so long as they are happy and respectful of each other i.e. no one is taken advatage of. The world is ours to explore and why should we be afraid of checcking out whatever we want. Who knows- you might find out you like it- maybe you find out you don't...maybe you do it once and never do it again or maybe you never do at all because it isn't interesting- SO WHAT. All this shit about- you are a puss if you screw another guy blar is for shit cuz PLENTY of "straight" guys are putting it to each other. My first same sex experience and one of quite a few WAS IN THE ARMY. ALSO- I can assure you there are plenty of guys cruising parks, dirty book stores, online- you name it...and the only sad thing about that is that our society makes them feel all shitty about it so they then turn around and lie to their wives (which I think is wrong) and go out and do shit behind their backs. If people weren't so uptight about it then people could experiemnt without all the pressure and criticism which ultimately doesnt mean anything. And if you start talking all this god shit- then Ill say- which god- YOUR GOD? Oh so because your gos says Im going to hell for being human then Ill say screw you and your god because mine doesnt mind. And besides- who's to say your god is right? Buddha- was around before Jesus- and so were a shit load of other gods- oh but they are allw rong and he is right- hmmm did you ever stop to notice that its an awfully big coincidence that your god happens to be the one that you were raised with or at least raised in the culture where that god is dominant? So just think- if you were born somewhere else- SAY INDIA- then you's most likely be HINDU and you would think you were right and Pat Robertson was full of shit....so get over it and do whatever you want in the sack with whoever you want as much as you want- JUST PLAY SAFE and check your partners ID- don't wanna end up like Roman Polanski- besides let kids gorw up and make their own choices about themselves and their sexuality when they are grown up.....thats my rant.

Chicks are HOT- i.e Kylie Minogue
Guys are hot too i.e. Antonio Sabato for example.....

 

[descanting]

Dando30, you took the words right out of my mouth.. About everything, especially religions..

 

[Tiervexx]

Dando30, you took the words right out of my mouth.. About everything, especially religions..

ditto

 

[FreeOfCharge]

of course dicks are for chicks. whattafuck do ya think sex is about in essence--reproduction. the pleasure is to ensure reproduction of the species, whatever it is. of course there are mutations and variations. but the bottom line is, poke, prod, use your bod and stick your dick in a chick to keep the juices flowin' and humanity goin'.

So everytime you've had sex w/a woman the intent was to have a child? If not, then that strikes me as a hypocritical statement.

 

[HammerNail]

I feel sorry for guy who never had a same sex experiance.....