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Have I gone as far as a natural guy can go?

One thing that really intrigues me is the idea of only doing one cycle and hopefully keeping around 10 lbs . I'd be sooo happy .

Don't kid yourself, if I had a dollar for every time I have heard that......

Looking good though definately ready to juice IMO.
 
I say work with what you've got there. If that physique was indeed built naturally, then you've got some serious God given potential. I say don't spoil it with AS.
 
c-sharp minor said:







Ummmmmmm..........I'm almost 35 and have put on 25 lbs of muscle in the last 5 years naturally.

But you're also not a bodybuilder with 13 years of training under his belt who is struggling to put on even one more pound of muscle. If I had to guess, you never worked out at all five years ago, and now you've gotten into the lifestyle and put on some good weight, and now you may be close to your natural potential. It's just a matter of what point in your training you're in.
 
I'd agree w/ Geoff -- the decision to go over to the Dark Side is definitely your own decision. Either way you might want to research it just so you know what you are getting into / missing / don't have to deal with. You've accomplished some awesome stuff -- look amazing! You said you haven't made any gains in the last 2 years -- I wondered if you had tried different approaches to diet & training to coax out some more growth? While you are research AS you might also want to step out of your usual training & diet approach and see if you can do something different to get more results naturally. I've seen some natty bb's who would shame even the most optimal juicer.

Another thing to keep in mind is that when you juice you need to understand all the anti-estrogen and all the other stuff that goes w/ it as well as noting that you will have to compete strictly in non-tested shows. This was one of my major petpeeves when I competed naturally -- the girl who won my 2nd show was OBVIOUSLY juiced and they only do those lameo "lie detector" tests. It sort of pollutes the shows that are specifically natural and basicaly everyone knows who juiced and who didnt', despite 'testing'.

Good luck -- you have some awesome genetics!
 
damn dude thats an awesome physique... all i have to say is dont juice man.. people like you give motivation and hope to young knuckleheaded kids like myself... You see yourself in the mirror everyday and probably get frustrated at your lack of gains, but just remember when other people see you, it motivates them.... I've been thinking about a cycle as well but because i seen that you can do it without the juice it makes me want to try to do it naturally as well...
 
First off: Great Job Bro, amazing!

Secondally: I am much younger but consider myself to have an awesome physique and like yourself I am still natural but also am considering using a cycle.. I want to compete in NPC shows but I also want to get as naturally big as possible. If you think you could benefit from some different training techs, diets, etc. hit me w/ a pm. I would love to share knowledge, I know if I can keep making great gain naturally I wont convert to the dark side. And maybe you can hold out a while longer also!

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bigguns7 said:


But you're also not a bodybuilder with 13 years of training under his belt who is struggling to put on even one more pound of muscle. If I had to guess, you never worked out at all five years ago, and now you've gotten into the lifestyle and put on some good weight, and now you may be close to your natural potential. It's just a matter of what point in your training you're in.

True.

It's more like 21 years.

Been working out since I was 14 bro.
 
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