Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Been on the Beast for 22 days and had to stop today. First, I want to say I was impressed with the results. I was very skeptical until about 10 days in, then BAMM! It’s been many years since I have felt the effects of a “supplement”. Unfortunately, my back pain became unbearable without pain meds. Also, I’m take doctor prescribed blood thinners, that along with the beast thinned my blood to the point that a small scrape will bleed for days (had to get medical advice on that). Working on that aspect (scary shit) with my doc. So here I am, wanting to go forward as I purchased the advance cycle stack from needto along with some extra beast. Guess I got too excited and jumped the gun. Should have waited a bit longer, but hey, I was enjoying the gains and friends noticing the pumped guns. So I want to know from you all if I should use the dermacrine alone for another 4 weeks and recover from the back pumps. Can’t wait until the back pain goes away, feels like my kidneys are being squeezed. Or just call it quits and use needto’s PCT and Sustain. I’d really like to stay pumped for a few more weeks if I can, but I don’t know what to do at this point. Also, do you think I’ll feel the back pain on diesel, tren if I decide to do another cycle? I need your help everyone.. Thanks in advance for your advice. Guess I wasn’t meant to get as big as I’d like on this stuff, my body does not like it, but my muscles sure do. So, Dermacrine for another 4 weeks before PCT, or just PCT. Like I said, I would like to stay pumped for a few more weeks (if the Dermacrine will even help with that.. don’t know). But I got to get rid of these pains, let alone the bleeding. HELP…
Had to stop the Beast
- Thread starter Adam D
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needtogetaas
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I think you should do the derma for 4 weeks. then do the bolan and tfo. You will most likely not feel the same back pumps that you did from the tren. The dermacrine will give you a nice brake but you will not lose any gains and you will feel great using it.
needtogetaas
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and in the end no matter what you choice to do, like I said on the phone I will be more then happy to refund you for all the products you have left. I am a honest man. For one reason or another the products are not for everyone and I fully understand this.
needtogetaas
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If you are going to stop all together then use the dermacrine for 4 weeks and then the sustain for 4 weeks. That will be good shit.
If you are taking a brake then use the derma for 4 weeks then go on the bolan and tfo. Much more mild btw. Then when that is over use the sustain alpha.
I may have to take you up on your offer (not that I want to), but if it means being in pain and risking my health due to my blood issues, well I really have no choice. I beleive your a man of your word! No complaints about the products, just may not be for me like you said.. I'm bummin'.
needtogetaas
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Perfectly fine man. Your health above all else is the most important aspect of life. I am and always will be a man of my word bro. I do everything in my power to anyway.
illuminazi
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It was the first thing I ever taken and it kicked my ass! It's very powerful for sure- And I'm as hard as they come, just look at my pic! I hardly lost any strenth, lost some gains but that is normal. But it's not for everyone. The complaint for me was the liver issue, which has now normalized. Also it made me pathetically tired all day, but with some added other supps it kinda cured it. But still a fine and very hardcore product.
Oh it works, no doubt. I'm just now starting to get back on my feet. Had to go to the ER 3 days ago. Pissed a bowl full of blood... freaked out. Had 2 CAT scans and blood work. My liver functions were all good. I was very glad to hear that, so the forge liver supp was working. White blood count was up and was BP. I did not tell the doc what I was doing, so he gave me an anibiotic and some Oxycodone. Been 3 days know. Still pissing blood, but not as bad. Kidneys still hurt like hell and I've got a few more days before I'm going to be OK. Guess that pulls me out of the game and I'm so pissed about that I can't say. Can't hit the weights for a few more days, losin' it fast. Going to try and get under the weights in 2-3 days and see how I feel. Going to use Dermacrine for 4 weeks then Sus and call it quits I guess. I'd like to try something less harsh (a lot less), but even thinking about it is kinda scary when your still pissing blood. If I ever do try another product and feel back pain, I will stop on a dime before the blood hits the bowl. Any suggestions on anything else safer? Will Dermacrine long term do anything for me? I definitly have some product that I will have to return. I will PM needto on that issue. Well gents, any suggestions for my supplament future will be appreciated. Can't do the Kidney strain thing again, mine can't take it... stupid wimpy Kidnyes. For anyone second guessing these product. They do work and most people get through OK, but I didn't. Needto's porducts are good, I'm just one of those unlucky statistics that's all. Any safer mild er shit out there that works. Hey, if it takes me longer so be it. Tuff to get motivated without anything onboard after you've felt "it".
supreme
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WOW!!
I have heard a few bro's have had some sides: headache, BP, dizzy, back pumps but PISSING BLOOD!!!- I would totally freak out!! I have never pissed blood (thank God!) - Shit blood from a nasty hemorrhoid but that's it!!
Has anyone else had the such a strong adverse reaction to Beast? - it is scheduled for my next cycle but only 20mg / day for 3 weeks along with Diesel.
I have ran the Diesel at 4 caps per day - no problems, Katanadrol 3 caps per day no prob, I have used Var, oral winny, 1T, and bunch of pro hormones before they were banned and the worst was 1T - headache & BP went up but eventually that went away. Never pissed blood. Now I know they are pretty mild and the old Dbol rule was cut back when you start pissing blood but I never wanted the bloat and sides of Dbol, so I stayed away.
Man, need to has made some pretty powerful stuff!!
Hope you fully recover!
The Dieselbolan I found to have no sides for me (maybe 2 pimples) and great gains!
Anyone else piss blood or have REALLY bad beast sides??
S
I have heard a few bro's have had some sides: headache, BP, dizzy, back pumps but PISSING BLOOD!!!- I would totally freak out!! I have never pissed blood (thank God!) - Shit blood from a nasty hemorrhoid but that's it!!
Has anyone else had the such a strong adverse reaction to Beast? - it is scheduled for my next cycle but only 20mg / day for 3 weeks along with Diesel.
I have ran the Diesel at 4 caps per day - no problems, Katanadrol 3 caps per day no prob, I have used Var, oral winny, 1T, and bunch of pro hormones before they were banned and the worst was 1T - headache & BP went up but eventually that went away. Never pissed blood. Now I know they are pretty mild and the old Dbol rule was cut back when you start pissing blood but I never wanted the bloat and sides of Dbol, so I stayed away.
Man, need to has made some pretty powerful stuff!!
Hope you fully recover!
The Dieselbolan I found to have no sides for me (maybe 2 pimples) and great gains!
Anyone else piss blood or have REALLY bad beast sides??
S
It is possible that I had a kidney issue and the strain put me over the edge... don't know. Scared the living (bloody) piss out of me.... enough to go to the ER. I'm feelin' way better now. Needto, so what are the return instructions? After a few months, a I may try some diesel and see wht happens..... gonna have to think about that pretty hard. I bet no one else has had this heppen to them... guess I picked the short straw.
needtogetaas
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Just send me a pm bro. I will take care of you.
devil deezy
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i can tell u this, before i started diesel i was takin a ph called sus500 and i hated the back pumps... now that im off of that and on disel i dont feel not one side effect other than i sweat easy/night sweats and large amount of mass gains 
devil deezy
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i did 1 with lunch then two with dinner 5 days on and two off.... got nice gains but wouldnt do it again.... to many sides... plus needto's got the bang for the buck without a doubt!
I held onto a bottle of Diesel and tren that I may try down the line if I can get up the nerve. Sounds much less harsh. I wish I had this stuff in my 20's when I was young and could take it. Did some test cycles back then and everything went ok for me. Just can't get it these days and didn't want to shop for darts.
If you are prone to the kidney issue i would def wait for a year to try the dieselbolan....I used it and had great results but i was having some serious pains on week 4. I was taking 3ed on 8 hour intervals....man the stuff is great but I am in tune with my body and could tell something was not right. I went to doc and did an urine analysis and came back with small amouts of blood in urine...I couldnt see the blood but the computer picked it up....I stopped all supps and 1 week later i was fine.
I am not a doc....but since the supps that needto sells are legal my advice it to wait a year and during that time get some tests done to make sure everything is working right. Then if that is good tell the doc what you are going to take and have the doc monitor you while "on". None of us are taking anything with the intent on permently hurting our bodies so make sure you do it smart.
Your lucky you did business with a guy like Needtoo...not many guys have customer service like he does.
I am not a doc....but since the supps that needto sells are legal my advice it to wait a year and during that time get some tests done to make sure everything is working right. Then if that is good tell the doc what you are going to take and have the doc monitor you while "on". None of us are taking anything with the intent on permently hurting our bodies so make sure you do it smart.
Your lucky you did business with a guy like Needtoo...not many guys have customer service like he does.
needtogetaas
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Anytime bro. I always take care of the customer no matter what. This is why people trust me.
needtogetaas
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I hope to prove this as much as I can. its part of my Mission statement. I personally take care of everyone no matter what.
lander2312, Thanks for your info. I don't think I had a kidney infection, but that's what the doc went with. The ER doc asked me if I knew why my nitrats and white blood cell counts were elevated and I played stupid. They looked at me with some suspition, I played dumb. If I do get up the nerve and I feel any pain at all, I'll stop ASAP and hope I'll heal fast. Scary stuff pissin' red when you're expecting yellow. I don't know how my doc would react to me being honest with him about this stuff. How have other docs reacted to letting the cat out of the bag.. so to speak? I'd hate to have my insurance provider use this as an excuse to screw me down the line. Anyone have any advice about that?
Thanks everyone!!
Thanks everyone!!
NinjaTurtles
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Isn't it better to tell your doctor what your doing so he can properly diagnose you and look for anything else that may be related to your issues?
That depends on whether your doctor can keep it off of your medical records. Steroid use on your medical records will make your insurance company very unhappy.
NinjaTurtles
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True dat... I guess I don't think about that much! My doctor is a pretty legit down to earth guy. I guess if I was pissing blood and in real pain, I may have to be pretty revealing about what I am doing though.
My doc started out in sports medicine. I told him straight up, and he will let me come in anytime I want for a BP check or for a blood test. He is not opposed to responsible steroid use. He has never used himself, but he's a legit bro when it comes to being honest and as a scientifically accurate as he can when it comes to steroid use. I have even learned a few things from him that I didn't know about it.
