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Gym Rules - Dropping Dumbbells

gymtime

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I expect this kind of shit from the newbies, but not from a vet.

Last week. Guy who was obviously a competetive BBer was there training someone. Was doing heavy mil presses with dbs. Drops them to the ground after the last set, huge crash the whole gym could hear.

I was pissed.

Guy goes for new dbs for next set, 10lbs heavier. Pulls them off the rack...BOOM....BOOM...drops them on the floor, one right after the other.

I'd had enough.

"Dude you keep dropping those weights, they'll throw you right out of here."

"Uh, I was just setting them down man," he said, all annoyed.

Whatever. I let it go and went back to my workout.

The little fuck had the balls to complain about me. He heard, "Dude you keep dropping those weights and I'll throw you out of here." Like I was threatening him or something. I'm across the gym by now and I see this little asshole pointing at me and pleading his case to the barely-out-of-puberty gym cleanup boy.

Cleanup boy comes to me and says, "Sir, was there some sort of confrontation here?" I said look, all i said was that if he keeps dropping the weights like that, he's gonna get thrown out. We don't allow that here.

"Well, he's a competetive bodybuilder and they have certain ways of doing things," says acne boy.

Wrong answer.

"I don't care if he's Arnold fucking Swartzenegger, we don't drop weights in this gym. It's posted on every wall. Are you saying the gym rules don't apply to him?" Note, I've been going to this Golds for about four years now. It's much more family oriented than hardcore. We have tanning, daycare and a hip-hop class for Christ sake!

Blank stare.

"Yes you're right. I'll talk to him."

That was pretty much the end of it. He stopped dropping the weights even though he insisted he was being treated so unfairly.

I can't believe someone like this thinks that abusing the equipment is perfectly appropriate. In my four years at that gym, I've never complained about anyone or any thing. But I'd had enough.

Rant over....Comments welcome. Thanks :)
 
Monster and I drop weights all the time. I am not going to have my shoulders sacrificed by gently placing weight down when doing presses. I think it's stupid to just drop them when doing shoulder presses, but I don't do it for drama.
 
If you're in your own gym, or if you belong to a gym that allows it, fine. But in a public gym where the rule against it is posted everywhere, no way.
 
So when you are pressing 120lbs dumbells, you should allow your shoulders to take the brunt of it while setting them down easily?
 
"Dropping Weights" means different things to different people and in different gyms.

Senseless things, like dropping a plate after taking it off a bar is exactly that -- senseless. Also, if you're dropping dumbells for effect or drama that's senseless as well.

Having said that... If you are doing heavy dumbells and specificially working to failure, then it's probably expected you're going to drop them. I'm comfortably certain that any competent gym would let you know in a hurry if their "Dropping Weights" policy covers failure sets as well.
 
There is absolutely nothing wrong with dropping the weights. Throwing them down isn't cool (unless your doing lifts on a platform, in which case, I throw my deadlifts down).

Dropping them while moving them is dumb, but at the end of a set, its totally understandable.

Now, lets say your doing db bench and do a slow negative on the last one, i'm sorry, but its not possible to do anything but drop the weights.

And if your big, you pretty much have the right to drop them. Nuff said.
 
curgeo said:
So when you are pressing 120lbs dumbells, you should allow your shoulders to take the brunt of it while setting them down easily?


What difference would it make if you where to do that with 5lb dumbells or 120? Gym rule says no dropping don't drop. If you can't manually lower it get two spotters.
 
well, i had some guy bust half a set of 130's right in front of me, what pissed me off was i needed them next.........also, there are other people in the gym, i have seen people get broken bones due to falling weights.
 
Vash said:
What difference would it make if you where to do that with 5lb dumbells or 120? Gym rule says no dropping don't drop. If you can't manually lower it get two spotters.

Lol. A lot.
Me "dropping" a 165 and you dropping a 5 are a world of difference. I dont care how many spotters you can come up with... I lower the weight back to my chest (at an incline), then to my knees and then a graceful plop down to the ground.
You learn to land them even, not on an end or anything.

The difference is in someone pushing themselves with a large weight and someone using a weight that is too heavy. Its a controlled drop versus a "drop".

The guy in the first post sounds like he was trying to be show off. I dont care to show off, I just care to save my rotator cuffs...
 
psychedout said:
There is absolutely nothing wrong with dropping the weights. Throwing them down isn't cool (unless your doing lifts on a platform, in which case, I throw my deadlifts down).

Dropping them while moving them is dumb, but at the end of a set, its totally understandable.

Now, lets say your doing db bench and do a slow negative on the last one, i'm sorry, but its not possible to do anything but drop the weights.

And if your big, you pretty much have the right to drop them. Nuff said.

Not at a gym that doesn't allow it, and posts that policy for all to see.

If you feel that that it's not possible to do anything but drop a db on the last set, which I completely disagree with btw, then find a gym that tolerates it. If it were my gym, you'd be asked to leave, no question.
 
ok, yeah, someone said dropping and then throwing, there's a big difference, yeah, throwing them is worse, like from the top of a shoulder press, kinda dangerous too.
 
curgeo said:
So when you are pressing 120lbs dumbells, you should allow your shoulders to take the brunt of it while setting them down easily?

There's a relatively simple way to do it,even for 120s or higher. If you're using weight you need to drop, even on the last set, then it's too heavy for you and you're probably using crappy form anyway.......in my opinion of course.
 
The_Monster said:
Lol. A lot.
Me "dropping" a 165 and you dropping a 5 are a world of difference. I dont care how many spotters you can come up with... I lower the weight back to my chest (at an incline), then to my knees and then a graceful plop down to the ground.
You learn to land them even, not on an end or anything.

The difference is in someone pushing themselves with a large weight and someone using a weight that is too heavy. Its a controlled drop versus a "drop".

The guy in the first post sounds like he was trying to be show off. I dont care to show off, I just care to save my rotator cuffs...

That I could probably live with. And yes, there is a big difference between what you do and the guy in my post.

Y'know what really made me even more pissed off, which I forgot to mention, was that the guy was not even a member.
 
Why don't you ask Monster how my form is......He is a training partner of mine.

As I said, I don't like showoffs, nor do I condone dropping weight just for the sake of dropping it, but I won't sacrifice my shoulders so I don't make a "Thud" sound.

Before you critique my form, please feel free to watch me train first.......You can then offer a critique that is valid and not a broad generalization due to me disagreeing with you.
 
curgeo said:
Why don't you ask Monster how my form is......He is a training partner of mine.

As I said, I don't like showoffs, nor do I condone dropping weight just for the sake of dropping it, but I won't sacrifice my shoulders so I don't make a "Thud" sound.

Before you critique my form, please feel free to watch me train first.......You can then offer a critique that is valid and not a broad generalization due to me disagreeing with you.

Hey,if you can do 120s with good form, then you can get the weights to the floor without dropping them and without risk to your shoulders. I do it all the time.
 
yeah the only time i ever do it is when im benching with dumbells and they are heavy and no spotter is around, plus spotting someone on dumbells is kinda dangerous if they are big bc i dont want to have to hold the weight over my head while they pick each one of. a spot during my reps is cool with the elbows. but my gym has concrete floors. i try to avoid doing it.
 
gymtime said:
Hey,if you can do 120s with good form, then you can get the weights to the floor without dropping them and without risk to your shoulders. I do it all the time.

We're differing in the defenition of "dropping".

What I described myself as doing is the same as what curgeo does.
After 10+ years of training, I dont feel its worth compromising rotator cuff integrity trying to lower a dumbell to the floor. The dumbell knows where the floor is, it will find it on its own. The floor is the dumbells natural home, so to paraphrase the movie Happy Gilmore: "Send the weight home"...

We train part of the time in a corpotate gym. They make many, many concessions to curgeo and I. We can use chalk while others cannot, we keep our bags with us on the floor while others cannot, and we'll take pretty much every plate in the place over to the power racks for leg day.
They have their signs up about not dropping the weights, but they know very well what the difference is between someone dropping the weight and someone ending a heavy set.

I actually think we all may be in agreement somewhat, we're just torn between what is dropping a weight and what is "sending the weight home" :D
 
Shit, the corner gym that I go to has a sign that says not to make loud noises, "drop" weights (the definition of which is unclear) and not to use chalk among other things. I am sorry GymTime, but there are times when all three are necessary. I am not saying that people should show off, but when I am busting some 5 rep max box squats I am going to make some noise. I am not a monster at DB press but the times when I use 90 or 100 lbs. DBs, I "drop" those bitches to the floor. The same with shoulder press, I do not use 120's, but when I do use 70's or 80's I "drop" those also, I can't imagine someone using 120's and not dropping them. Chalk is also something that must be used, and actually increases the safety of a lift. If I am trying to do heavy deads and I do not use chalk, my hands often get cut. Now would it not make more sense and disobey the posted rules to use a product that would increase my safety.
From the nature of your post you seem like you are older than most of us, which could contribute to your sense of following the rules. I am not saying it is right, but to 20-somethings like myself, rules are followed that matter. If I drop a weight and the owner of the gym says something, that is what matters. If someone else says something those would be considered "fighting words." I have never assaulted anyone, but the only time I came close was when a 40-something guys interupted me mid-workout, while I was wearing headphones, about some stupid shit. I would caution you to getting in peoples face when they are working out, and I question the intenstiy of your own workout if you take time to neurotically dwell on shit like this.
My 2 cents. :bigbuck:
 
curgeo said:
So when you are pressing 120lbs dumbells, you should allow your shoulders to take the brunt of it while setting them down easily?
I see a lot of bent dumbells, 120lbs. Because some dumbfucks drop them, and now they are unusable. A person can drop the weight lightly, but not so that whole fuckin gym notices it.
 
Riiiiight! You don't drop a dumbell from shoulder height doing dumbell press......That's just showing off, but when you are doing a set of flat or incline presses, when you lower the weights, you are not going to be able to gently.....without a sound.....silently like a church......set them on the ground.

There is a difference between dropping them because you want to and dropping them (setting them down) because you have to.
 
gymtime said:
... huge crash the whole gym could hear....
Hmm... could always go with plan "B" and let the gym interpret and enforce their own "No Dropping Weights" rules :spin:
 
I agree that there are times you have to drop the weight. Not for show, but for safety reasons.

If I do a top set of DB bench and I can't sit up with the weight, or if I fail on a rep then I will drop them. That's like maybe a 2 foot drop, maybe.

If doing seated DB press when I finish a set I kinda hammer curl swing them down, but I'm reppin 65's right now, so if I was doing 100's I probably would drop them, but sorta control drop them ie., hold onto them as I drop them and let em go before they hit the ground to decrease impact.

I've dropped a few deadlifts before. I notice that when you start getting heavy you kinda got to drop them because it's a pain in the ass slowly lowering when you're pulling heavy and fatigued. EAsy way to get injured.
 
I'm relatively new here, so my opinion may not be worth as much - I think the key issue is 'how' or 'why" you are dropping the weights. When I do heavy DB bench and can't get the weights back to my knees, I do my best to gently drop the weights one at a time from my chest to the floor. I think thats acceptable. On the other hand, if somebody is doing DB shoulder press and just flinging the DBs down after the last rep, that's unacceptable IMO. Bring the weights back to your knees or get a spotter. Basically I consider an "okay drop" one that doesn't damage the DB or shake the whole gym (yes, that's all relative) and a bad drop is one that could be prevented (again, relative) or damages the weights. My .02
 
gymtime said:
If you're using weight you need to drop, even on the last set, then it's too heavy for you and you're probably using crappy form anyway.......in my opinion of course.
Not true at all.
 
yomama said:
I see a lot of bent dumbells, 120lbs. Because some dumbfucks drop them, and now they are unusable. A person can drop the weight lightly, but not so that whole fuckin gym notices it.
What he said.
 
If youre offended by bent dumbells, maybe you should be training at a "fitness center"? The worst possible bend in a dumbell isnt going to seriously affect it to any degree... the handle isnt long enough to have a bend affect overall stability of it.

The gym I left when I moved had dumbells up to 225, and the owner was a welder by trade. If I set the 180s down to hard and it poped the end off, he would put it on a dolly, roll it out back and weld it back up. The dumbells were butt ass fukin ugly, but to us they were works of art!
The moral of the story is... Im sorry, but the "big dogs" have earned some rights that the lightweights have not. A controlled "drop" (like from the knees or below, any higher is excessive) is going to happen when youre using 120's and up and training to failure. At certain weights a spotter isnt even practical.
Im not going to hold two 180lb dumbells on my chest while I wait for two people to struggle to remove them from me... and risk having them dropped on my chest while people fumble with them. Its stupid and unneccesary.
For as much as I pay (as we ALL pay) for gym dues a year, they can afford a couple of washers and bolts from time to time.

And dont get me going on "noise". :D
 
yomama said:
I see a lot of bent dumbells, 120lbs. Because some dumbfucks drop them, and now they are unusable. A person can drop the weight lightly, but not so that whole fuckin gym notices it.

If you are going to drop the weights, WHICH I DO REGULARLY, you have to learn how to drop them properly as to not bend or break the dbs in half. If they land on one end, that is when they bend/break. However, if they land flat, then they are perfectly fine. I try to ease them down as much as possible, but when im repping the 120's ill be damned if im gonna blow a shoulder out trying to gently set them down. To me, as long as they land flat and dont bend/break them, i could care less.
 
yeah its how and why you drop them. when i drop them they usually roll sideways. i drop them on both sides evenly.
 
BlondBomber said:
Shit, the corner gym that I go to has a sign that says not to make loud noises, "drop" weights (the definition of which is unclear) and not to use chalk among other things. I am sorry GymTime, but there are times when all three are necessary. I am not saying that people should show off, but when I am busting some 5 rep max box squats I am going to make some noise. I am not a monster at DB press but the times when I use 90 or 100 lbs. DBs, I "drop" those bitches to the floor. The same with shoulder press, I do not use 120's, but when I do use 70's or 80's I "drop" those also, I can't imagine someone using 120's and not dropping them. Chalk is also something that must be used, and actually increases the safety of a lift. If I am trying to do heavy deads and I do not use chalk, my hands often get cut. Now would it not make more sense and disobey the posted rules to use a product that would increase my safety.
From the nature of your post you seem like you are older than most of us, which could contribute to your sense of following the rules. I am not saying it is right, but to 20-somethings like myself, rules are followed that matter. If I drop a weight and the owner of the gym says something, that is what matters. If someone else says something those would be considered "fighting words." I have never assaulted anyone, but the only time I came close was when a 40-something guys interupted me mid-workout, while I was wearing headphones, about some stupid shit. I would caution you to getting in peoples face when they are working out, and I question the intenstiy of your own workout if you take time to neurotically dwell on shit like this.
My 2 cents. :bigbuck:

Oh where to begin...

Drop those bitches to the floor huh? Wow...that's really impressive. Yes, I have no doubt that I'm older and don't concern myself with looking cool in the gym anymore. And I don't remember complaining about chalk either. I'm not sure where you got that, but I don't give a shit about chalk. I see no reason not to use it and there's no rule against it. Nor do I care about noise in general, especially on a squat or bench. But then, a shortcoming of your age group is to invent conflict where there is none, so I'll let that go. My only concern here is equipment abuse, equipment I help pay to maintain.

And if you really read what I was saying, I'm far from "neurotically dwelling on shit like this." If you paid attention, you'd have read that in the years that I've gone to my gym, I've never complained about anything or anyone. But if you chose to abuse the equipment that I pay to maintain, then yes, you will hear about it. I'm not some old fart out there making sure all you little angels follow the rules. I simply would like to keep the equipment I use every week in some sort of decent shape. The fact that you've been conditioned to believe it's a safety issue is of no concern to me. Come to my gym and I'll show you how to put those little 100s away with no thud, and no harm to your shoulders. It's not rocket surgery boys, truly. Of course, I'll be using the 120s and 130s :)

As for getting in someone's face, again, your reading comprehension is way off. I never got in anyone's face. I dont' do that. I don't bother anyone. But if you're going to launch the 90s off your shoulders from a military press, yes, I'm going to say something. And believe me kiddo, you would be no exception. Judging by what kind of weight you're putting up, I'd suggest you take equal care in who choose to beat up for interrupting your "intense" workout. So you almost got into it with some old guy for that huh?? Impressive. If, I had a dime for every time I heard someone say they almost kicked someones ass, guys like you would be fincancing my new mercedes.


Monster - I agree with you. We are talking about two different things here. I've seen guys "drop" weights as you explain and it's really no big deal. I have no problem with that. Especially with the weight guys like you are putting up. That's expected. What I take exception to is simply dropping a handle-able weight from full extension for no reason.

"Sending the weight home"...LOL...that's beautiful. I'm totally stealing that one.
 
gymtime said:
Oh where to begin...

Drop those bitches to the floor huh? Wow...that's really impressive. Yes, I have no doubt that I'm older and don't concern myself with looking cool in the gym anymore. And I don't remember complaining about chalk either. I'm not sure where you got that, but I don't give a shit about chalk. I see no reason not to use it and there's no rule against it. Nor do I care about noise in general, especially on a squat or bench. But then, a shortcoming of your age group is to invent conflict where there is none, so I'll let that go. My only concern here is equipment abuse, equipment I help pay to maintain.

And if you really read what I was saying, I'm far from "neurotically dwelling on shit like this." If you paid attention, you'd have read that in the years that I've gone to my gym, I've never complained about anything or anyone. But if you chose to abuse the equipment that I pay to maintain, then yes, you will hear about it. I'm not some old fart out there making sure all you little angels follow the rules. I simply would like to keep the equipment I use every week in some sort of decent shape. The fact that you've been conditioned to believe it's a safety issue is of no concern to me. Come to my gym and I'll show you how to put those little 100s away with no thud, and no harm to your shoulders. It's not rocket surgery boys, truly. Of course, I'll be using the 120s and 130s :)

As for getting in someone's face, again, your reading comprehension is way off. I never got in anyone's face. I dont' do that. I don't bother anyone. But if you're going to launch the 90s off your shoulders from a military press, yes, I'm going to say something. And believe me kiddo, you would be no exception. Judging by what kind of weight you're putting up, I'd suggest you take equal care in who choose to beat up for interrupting your "intense" workout. So you almost got into it with some old guy for that huh?? Impressive. If, I had a dime for every time I heard someone say they almost kicked someones ass, guys like you would be fincancing my new mercedes.


Monster - I agree with you. We are talking about two different things here. I've seen guys "drop" weights as you explain and it's really no big deal. I have no problem with that. Especially with the weight guys like you are putting up. That's expected. What I take exception to is simply dropping a handle-able weight from full extension for no reason.

"Sending the weight home"...LOL...that's beautiful. I'm totally stealing that one.
Interrupting someone's workout in the name of enforcing any gym rule unless you part of the management team is just rude IMO. Doesn't matter if it's how they handle the weights, how and when they use workout towels with the equipment, the technique they use for lifts, the amount of residual chalk on their lifting straps, etc. etc. If someone asks what you think about any of the above, it's all fair game -- if not, why bother them?

If these weights are crashing so the entire gym can hear, why not assume the gym management would interpret and enforce their own rules their own way?
 
mrplunkey said:
Interrupting someone's workout in the name of enforcing any gym rule unless you part of the management team is just rude IMO. Doesn't matter if it's how they handle the weights, how and when they use workout towels with the equipment, the technique they use for lifts, the amount of residual chalk on their lifting straps, etc. etc. If someone asks what you think about any of the above, it's all fair game -- if not, why bother them?

If these weights are crashing so the entire gym can hear, why not assume the gym management would interpret and enforce their own rules their own way?

I said one sentence to this guy between sets. I didn't interrupt anything. The "management" you speak of consisted of three teenagers as it was past 9pm.

Throwing weights is not a "technique". It's lazy and arrogant. I've explained why I chose to break a several year long silence and say something. I'm not going to explain it again.

There are plenty of gyms where this kind of thing is ok. Mine is not one of them. If that's what you need to do for your workout, great. Go to a gym that allows it.

Jesus you guys....this is not difficult. Not everything has to be a fight.
 
GymTime, I mentioned chalk and loud noises, because you were harping on "posted rules." I was pointing out that just because a rule is posted does not make it valid, and does not mean everyone is going to follow it.
It's like the speed limit. Everyone does not drive the speed limit because it is posted, people try to drive as fast as they can without getting caught. The gym is no different, hardcore lifters try to get away with as much as they can without getting in trouble with the management. You are like the guys that fucking yell at cars that are going 30 down the 25 mph zone street you live on. You have no authority, thus no one should give a fuck what you say or listen to you.
I think the best solution would be for you to open a gym. Run that bitch how you want, and enforce rules that would have the authority to enforce.
Another think, go fuck yourself for trying to put down the weights I lift. Just another cheap shot from an old geezer. You and your generation think that just because you were able to survive to old age give you the right to tell other people what to do.
 
BlondBomber said:
GymTime, I mentioned chalk and loud noises, because you were harping on "posted rules." I was pointing out that just because a rule is posted does not make it valid, and does not mean everyone is going to follow it.
It's like the speed limit. Everyone does not drive the speed limit because it is posted, people try to drive as fast as they can without getting caught. The gym is no different, hardcore lifters try to get away with as much as they can without getting in trouble with the management. You are like the guys that fucking yell at cars that are going 30 down the 25 mph zone street you live on. You have no authority, thus no one should give a fuck what you say or listen to you.
I think the best solution would be for you to open a gym. Run that bitch how you want, and enforce rules that would have the authority to enforce.
Another think, go fuck yourself for trying to put down the weights I lift. Just another cheap shot from an old geezer. You and your generation think that just because you were able to survive to old age give you the right to tell other people what to do.

Great comeback. *yawn*

YOu're all very tough and scary sitting there at your computer. :rolleyes:
 
gymtime said:
I said one sentence to this guy between sets. I didn't interrupt anything. The "management" you speak of consisted of three teenagers as it was past 9pm.

Throwing weights is not a "technique". It's lazy and arrogant. I've explained why I chose to break a several year long silence and say something. I'm not going to explain it again.

There are plenty of gyms where this kind of thing is ok. Mine is not one of them. If that's what you need to do for your workout, great. Go to a gym that allows it.

Jesus you guys....this is not difficult. Not everything has to be a fight.
I'm not the one that started the post ragging on people for dropping dumbells :P
 
mrplunkey said:
I'm not the one that started the post ragging on people for dropping dumbells :P

Yet you chose to post your opinion anyway. I suggest you stop doing that if you're afraid of differing viewpoints.
 
gymtime said:
Yet you chose to post your opinion anyway. I suggest you stop doing that if you're afraid of differing viewpoints.

Yeah, that part about "Rant over....Comments welcome. Thanks" threw me off!

You know... here's a different perspective. Let's look at this hypothetical. You're in the gym, rolling with your big old 100+ lb dumbells. Beside you is an 18 year old doing 40's with really good technique for 15+ reps. He looks over at you and says:

"Hey gramps, I see you rolling with those big 120 pound dumbells and I have an issue -- I'd like you to drop to 60's and focus on more reps. Those dumbells carry a risk that you'll need shoulder replacement/surgery later in life and as a payer on both the public (medicare) and private (insurance premiums) sides of this issue, I really resent you running that risk. Drop weight, focus on immaculate form and do lots and lots more reps because I don't want to get stuck with part of the bill for YOUR abuse"

What do you say to the guy? As one of these would-be payers, I lose more sleep over having to fund an $18,000+ shoulder replacement than a $100 pound dumbell.

I'll have to check back later btw... got to run downtown and shop for 2 days!
 
mrplunkey said:
Yeah, that part about "Rant over....Comments welcome. Thanks" threw me off!

You know... here's a different perspective. Let's look at this hypothetical. You're in the gym, rolling with your big old 100+ lb dumbells. Beside you is an 18 year old doing 40's with really good technique for 15+ reps. He looks over at you and says:

"Hey gramps, I see you rolling with those big 120 pound dumbells and I have an issue -- I'd like you to drop to 60's and focus on more reps. Those dumbells carry a risk that you'll need shoulder replacement/surgery later in life and as a payer on both the public (medicare) and private (insurance premiums) sides of this issue, I really resent you running that risk. Drop weight, focus on immaculate form and do lots and lots more reps because I don't want to get stuck with part of the bill for YOUR abuse"

What do you say to the guy? As one of these would-be payers, I lose more sleep over having to fund an $18,000+ shoulder replacement than a $100 pound dumbell.

I'll have to check back later btw... got to run downtown and shop for 2 days!

I'd do exactly what you would do. Probably take him out back and teach him some manners :).

Happy shopping.
 
There is truly no need to drop weights...be it 5 or 500lb bells...........gotta learn how to prop them against your knees and propel yourself forward.....no injury.
 
Well what did you expect to happen?
Think what you said to him.
"Dude you keep dropping those weights, they'll throw you right out of here."
Weather you ment you or the management would do it, thats a threat. Nobody would reacts favourably to them. What did you think was going to happen?
 
The_Monster said:
If youre offended by bent dumbells, maybe you should be training at a "fitness center"? The worst possible bend in a dumbell isnt going to seriously affect it to any degree... the handle isnt long enough to have a bend affect overall stability of it.
Obviously you havent worked with bent dumbells, especially heavy ones. I know it's a short handle, but doesnt mean it cant get bent. And it's bent beyond comfort of use.
 
cwick0 said:
If you are going to drop the weights, WHICH I DO REGULARLY, you have to learn how to drop them properly as to not bend or break the dbs in half. If they land on one end, that is when they bend/break. However, if they land flat, then they are perfectly fine. I try to ease them down as much as possible, but when im repping the 120's ill be damned if im gonna blow a shoulder out trying to gently set them down. To me, as long as they land flat and dont bend/break them, i could care less.
We all agree there are certain conditions when you can drop the weight and the way you drop it. We're talking about people who just "like" to drop the weights cuz they're dumb and like to show off. "oooo, look at me, I can drop weights". :rolleyes:
 
yomama said:
We all agree there are certain conditions when you can drop the weight and the way you drop it. We're talking about people who just "like" to drop the weights cuz they're dumb and like to show off. "oooo, look at me, I can drop weights". :rolleyes:

I was just agreeing with your original post.
 
Saw a friend get his ankle shattered cause some fucknut drop the weight while doing Incline db press. I will never drop them unless injur to myself has occurred. I will set them down quickly if I am tired, my personal habit
 
yomama said:
Obviously you havent worked with bent dumbells, especially heavy ones. I know it's a short handle, but doesnt mean it cant get bent. And it's bent beyond comfort of use.

Think again.
And Ive worked with dumbell that have been welded so many times that when you set them down your hands bleed from the little bits of weld that are poking from inside of them.
Having built more than adequate stabilizer muscles, I can compensate for some piddly bend in a six inch dumbell handle. Ive squatted close to 700lbs with bent olympic bars, too. You adapt, you position the bar in your hand (or on your back) so that the bend isnt an issue, or you just work with it.
 
Lord_Suston said:
Saw a friend get his ankle shattered cause some fucknut drop the weight while doing Incline db press. I will never drop them unless injur to myself has occurred. I will set them down quickly if I am tired, my personal habit

If youre close enough to someone doing a working set that you could be hit by a dumbell, you deserve whatever you get. What ever happened to giving people room to do their set?
 
The_Monster said:
If youre close enough to someone doing a working set that you could be hit by a dumbell, you deserve whatever you get. What ever happened to giving people room to do their set?

He was far enough away, but the db bounced and landed right on his ankle. I don't think he deserved it but maybe I am wrong
 
Lord_Suston said:
He was far enough away, but the db bounced and landed right on his ankle. I don't think he deserved it but maybe I am wrong

Ehh, crazy things can happen. Nobody "deserves" it, but there is a lack of respect for people lifting a lot of weight... I used to have people pass close enough to my bench that as I came down with the weight I would elbow the dumb fucks... I guess Im bitter? :D
 
I respect people that can lift a lot, but there comes a point where saftey of fellow lifter should be a concern, and on there part as well.
 
gymtime said:
Come to my gym and I'll show you how to put those little 100s away with no thud, and no harm to your shoulders. It's not rocket surgery boys, truly. Of course, I'll be using the 120s and 130s :)QUOTE]
Are you saying you use the 130's for db press? If so I call bullshit.
 
androjunkie said:
gymtime said:
Come to my gym and I'll show you how to put those little 100s away with no thud, and no harm to your shoulders. It's not rocket surgery boys, truly. Of course, I'll be using the 120s and 130s :)QUOTE]
Are you saying you use the 130's for db press? If so I call bullshit.

Knock yourself out. Although I'm not sure why you would considering you know nothing about me. I've worked hard for a lot of years to be able to put up those kinds of numbers. I certainly didn't do it to impress you.
 
I respect the weights and the people around me. I don't drop the weights. I don't make exsessive noices to draw attention to myself or my workout. I see people do these things all the time, and it use to bother me, now I just smile at them and grab a heavier set of DB's and do my workout without all the noise. They usually get the message, and things get quiter. :verygood:
 
gymtime said:
Knock yourself out. Although I'm not sure why you would considering you know nothing about me. I've worked hard for a lot of years to be able to put up those kinds of numbers. I certainly didn't do it to impress you.[/QUOTE
A lot of my close friends are competetive bodybuilders and some are powerlifters so I've spent my fair share around people that are bigger and stronger than most people that work out. One of my bodybuilding buddy's benches 505 for 2 reps and uses the 120's for db press, this is a bodybuilder I'm talking about, not a powerlifter. Out of all the hardcore gyms I've been in and all the people I've worked out with or seen work out, he uses the most weight, again I'm talking bodybuilders here. So for you to say that you use the 130's, the chances are slim that you really do. The fact that a VERY small percentage of people that train can do that makes me doubt that you are one of them. Maybe you can, but I doubt it. You claim that you weren't trying to impress me but yet you made sure to tell everybody that you'd be using the 120's or 130's instead of the 100's. That sounds like showing off to me. If what you say is true, why don't you prove it. Post pictures or a video, because I'd like to see somebody moving that kind of weight.
 
I hate when you're doing DB press and you just realized than the DB are totally fucked up and you might very well get one on your nose
 
The_Monster said:
We're differing in the defenition of "dropping".

That we do. What I considered dropping is just letting go. Your controlled dropping I still consider lowering. And thank you for implying that I use 5lbs while your using the big weights. Think you could be any more condescending next time you say it?
 
boys......this inteernet pissing match is over.......or I'll lock it
 
I dont drop the weights, but anything over 100 certainly isnt getting gently lowered to the floor.. come on guys that's just common sense if you're pressing and don't have 2 spotters to take them

Now, a little punk dropping the 60's after a set of half reps to show what a badass he is deserves an asskicking but if anyone said to me to put the dbs down differently I'd politely tell them to go fuck themselves :)

thats how I do it lol
 
Tweakle said:
I dont drop the weights, but anything over 100 certainly isnt getting gently lowered to the floor.. come on guys that's just common sense if you're pressing and don't have 2 spotters to take them

Now, a little punk dropping the 60's after a set of half reps to show what a badass he is deserves an asskicking but if anyone said to me to put the dbs down differently I'd politely tell them to go fuck themselves :)

thats how I do it lol

Gently is relative. For me gently is anything that dosn't make a mock echo from bouncing 3-4 times before coming to rest.
 
I hurt my shoulders once while trying to drop softly and gently the weight after some heavy-almost-to-failure DB press :worried:
 
...my point is...if you can clean em into psoirion - there is NO need to drop them from shoulder height
 
Tweakle said:
I dont drop the weights, but anything over 100 certainly isnt getting gently lowered to the floor.. come on guys that's just common sense if you're pressing and don't have 2 spotters to take them

Now, a little punk dropping the 60's after a set of half reps to show what a badass he is deserves an asskicking but if anyone said to me to put the dbs down differently I'd politely tell them to go fuck themselves :)

thats how I do it lol

amen!
 
No need to ever drop them, I rep out on the 140s for incline press, but set the bench right in front of the rack so I pick them up, lay down and do my reps, then put them back, the floor never gets involved. If you cant find a way to do it without dropping them, then its too much weight
 
I train at one of those Gold's Gyms too that is family oriented. I wont hesitate to drop dumbbells. I dont do it to draw attention to myself. When Im unracking a 150lb dumbbell for dumbbell rows I dont want to put all that extra strain on my lower back, especially after the back injuries Ive had, so I just drop it off the rack and roll it to the bench. It was also fun to shake things up when I was dropping 730lbs on the power rack. That definately shook the building. The dumbbells can take the dropping. Theyve lasted years with that abuse. Its only the cheap ones that bend. Its not really about the equipment abuse for most people that have a problem with dropping dumbbells. Cuz they sure as hell dont use the 150's, havent even seen anyone use them, they just want something to bitch about. Im more annoyed by weak motherfuckers screaming like theyre lifting something heavy. Or the skinny dudes with thier cell phones flexing thier abs. In a place like that I could give a fuck about disturbing the peace. I dont directly disrespect anyone unless they interrupt my training in some way, or show me some type of disrespect. Once the line has been crossed, its dinner time!! KILL THAT SHIT!!
 
WalkingBeast said:
I train at one of those Gold's Gyms too that is family oriented. I wont hesitate to drop dumbbells. I dont do it to draw attention to myself. When Im unracking a 150lb dumbbell for dumbbell rows I dont want to put all that extra strain on my lower back, especially after the back injuries Ive had, so I just drop it off the rack and roll it to the bench. It was also fun to shake things up when I was dropping 730lbs on the power rack. That definately shook the building. The dumbbells can take the dropping. Theyve lasted years with that abuse. Its only the cheap ones that bend. Its not really about the equipment abuse for most people that have a problem with dropping dumbbells. Cuz they sure as hell dont use the 150's, havent even seen anyone use them, they just want something to bitch about. Im more annoyed by weak motherfuckers screaming like theyre lifting something heavy. Or the skinny dudes with thier cell phones flexing thier abs. In a place like that I could give a fuck about disturbing the peace. I dont directly disrespect anyone unless they interrupt my training in some way, or show me some type of disrespect. Once the line has been crossed, its dinner time!! KILL THAT SHIT!!
I agree -- and that's really the problem with unsolicited advice. Some people don't see it, but critiquing someone for dropping dumbells is just another form of unsolicited advice. It's no different than someone approaching me about my form, how much time I'm spending in the squat rack, my weight/rep recipe, how I've structured my investment portfolio, or whether I want to make $$$ while I sleep on some self-improvement plan.

My workout partner is a full-time professional personal trainer and when I see him periodically walk-up to these housewives offering unsolicited advice, hell -- I feel the urge to pimp-slap him and I'm not even the one getting the advice! It's not like he isn't correct... we'll see these 35-55 year old housewives doing pull-downs behind their necks with their heads cranked-out a good 6 inches forward. Hell, you can practically HEAR the discs in their necks shearing as they pull the weight... but you know, I still think it's not our place to comment. Now, if they ASK (and they sometimes do), he'll stop and spend quite a bit of time with them and I don't mind it slowing-down our workout one bit. Hopefully, the housewife gets more for her effort and my partner gets a shot at a new client.

Anyway... this is a perspective issue and realize that you can be 100% correct directionally and still be very offensive by walking-up to someone you don't know.
 
gymtime said:
Hey,if you can do 120s with good form, then you can get the weights to the floor without dropping them and without risk to your shoulders. I do it all the time.


totally agree here


end of disscussion
 
I disagree that telling people not to drop dumbells is unsolicited advice. When dumbells are dropped, they get lose, we have brand new Ivanko ones that are very expensive, but when they get dropped enough, especially on their ends, they get lose. Now if I'm doing dumbell presses, where they meet right over my face, then whoever is causing those dumbells to be lose, is definitely my business as thats my safety at risk. Why is it I can pick up the biggest ones the gym has, use them and put them back without ever dropping them, but others cant????
 
Ive seen alot of people dropping dumbbells above shoulder level and thats fucked up. The dumbbell often spins end over end. When I drop them they land flat most of the time. The highest I drop the dumbbells from is the rack. The 150's are pretty solid and because of thier length its difficult to flip them end over end. The lighter ones seem to take the most damage. I might drop the dumbbells a few feet when pressing, but not most of the time. Never at shoulder level. The only way Id drop it at shoulder level is to avoid injury. I like to keep the dumbbells nice since I have to use them too. At this gym shit doesnt get taken care of when equipment breaks. So when I see blatant disrespect for equipment it can anger me. Everything fucking angers me though. I keep to myself for the most part, but if a dumbbell rolls towards me things could get violent.
 
I'm a big fan of Arnold presses (rotator cuff surgery 10 years ago). I'll typically go:

15 x 40 lbs (gotta get loose... which comes hard for me)
12 x 50 lbs
12 x 60 lbs
12 x 70 lbs

then... if I'm not feeling froggy I do another 12 x 70. But, if I know i'm taking 1-2 days off, or if it's one of those "in the zone" days, I'll throw-in a set of 80's to failure. Granted, I'm sitting, but it's not that unusual to fail with the weight somewhere above my shoulder but below my head.

By the way... I don't think anyone would argue that dropping dumbells can lead to loosening them or that loosened dumbells might break or fail and that a dumbell that might break or fail could injure someone. It's just that it's a chance of a chance of a chance, and taking measures in the name of safety over that is a *very* slippery slope.

Thanks,
 
The_Monster said:
the "big dogs" have earned some rights that the lightweights have not.

Sorry bro you ain't earned shit. You play by the rules or get out. The rules at your gym are a certain way. That's fine. But if, as in gymtime's case, you're in MY gym fucking shit out, I'm gonna call you out on it. Especially if I have been a regular mamber fo rmany years and I've never seen you before.

I don't care if you're Ronnie fuckin Coleman. Go somewhere where they give a fuck.

Gymtime you were absolutely right. I've called people out for dropping the 35s in my gym. (they only go up to 60 here).

There are gyms where sweaty beasts grunt, metal clangs, and the floor shakes from big thuds. And that's great, and if that's what's expected, I would love to work out there. But if it's usually a quiet gym and all of a sudden some chucklehead thinks he can make it his own personal hardcore gym because he can press the 120s, he's got another think coming.

No disrespect intended, just making a point that rules are rules, and if you think because you're big that the rules don't apply to you, then you're just dumb.
 
BlondBomber said:
GymTime, I mentioned chalk and loud noises, because you were harping on "posted rules." I was pointing out that just because a rule is posted does not make it valid, and does not mean everyone is going to follow it.
It's like the speed limit. Everyone does not drive the speed limit because it is posted, people try to drive as fast as they can without getting caught. The gym is no different, hardcore lifters try to get away with as much as they can without getting in trouble with the management. You are like the guys that fucking yell at cars that are going 30 down the 25 mph zone street you live on. You have no authority, thus no one should give a fuck what you say or listen to you.

LMAO.

But when you're diving through some podunk town 300 miles away from home and you're cruising through a 35 at 50, and a cop pulls you over, what are you going to say?

"Oh I have a Corvette and I autocross so It's OK!"

Get out of the car and get up in the officer's face with your big self and say "Would you like to repeat that, officer?"

The point is, in your town, you know what you can get away with, whether it be on the streets or in the gym. But if you go somewhere that's not your turf, break the rules at your own risk. You may well get away with it. But if you get called on it, don't get all indignant and say "waaaaah, but I'm big, and you're old! waaaaah!"
 
the few IFBB pro bbers who works out thr gym i go to like troy alves throws up some serious poundage and always managed to control militaries and inclines DBs


seen craig titus incline 160s and the biggest asshole in bodybuilding still has courtsey to set them down rather gently and never ever makes a scene
 
Lumberg said:
LMAO.

But when you're diving through some podunk town 300 miles away from home and you're cruising through a 35 at 50, and a cop pulls you over, what are you going to say?

"Oh I have a Corvette and I autocross so It's OK!"

Get out of the car and get up in the officer's face with your big self and say "Would you like to repeat that, officer?"

The point is, in your town, you know what you can get away with, whether it be on the streets or in the gym. But if you go somewhere that's not your turf, break the rules at your own risk. You may well get away with it. But if you get called on it, don't get all indignant and say "waaaaah, but I'm big, and you're old! waaaaah!"
Your citing an example where a duely sanctioned officer of the law pulled you over for an infraction he just witnessed. What gymtime is talking about is a situation where *he* appointed himself gym moniter and decided to take action.

Lumberg... if instead of an officer it's me, joe shmoe, pulling you over telling you you're doing a 50 in a 35. You gonna be cool with that? :o

Also... I'm curious about something else too. Every gym will have these rules 1) No dropping weights, 2) Use equipment in a safe and responsible way and 3) No illegal substances on the premisis and 4) No lifting while under the influence of drugs and/or illegal substances. Sooo... what if someone like our self-appointed weight dropper monitor decides that freshly banned bottle of prohormones (coming in February) needs his policing efforts too?

Again, to me this isn't about dropping dumbells. I don't think anyone thinks that's a good thing. Let's just say that dropping dumbells sucks and get past that. To me, it's about someone taking it upon themselves to enforce rules. That's the slippery slope.

Thanks!
 
mrplunkey said:
Your citing an example where a duely sanctioned officer of the law pulled you over for an infraction he just witnessed. What gymtime is talking about is a situation where *he* appointed himself gym moniter and decided to take action.

Lumberg... if instead of an officer it's me, joe shmoe, pulling you over telling you you're doing a 50 in a 35. You gonna be cool with that? :o

Also... I'm curious about something else too. Every gym will have these rules 1) No dropping weights, 2) Use equipment in a safe and responsible way and 3) No illegal substances on the premisis and 4) No lifting while under the influence of drugs and/or illegal substances. Sooo... what if someone like our self-appointed weight dropper monitor decides that freshly banned bottle of prohormones (coming in February) needs his policing efforts too?

Again, to me this isn't about dropping dumbells. I don't think anyone thinks that's a good thing. Let's just say that dropping dumbells sucks and get past that. To me, it's about someone taking it upon themselves to enforce rules. That's the slippery slope.

Thanks!


Thank you. That was the exact point I was trying to make. :bigbuck:
 
Lumberg said:
Fair enough. Dropping dumbbells sucks!
Any chance I can get a "self-appointed gym police suck" too? I'm going for broke here!
 
mrplunkey said:
Any chance I can get a "self-appointed gym police suck" too? I'm going for broke here!

you wont get it from me, anytime someone is inconsiderate enough to wreck something that I need for my training, then odds are I am going to say something to them. It affects me when I cant use something I need to because someone felt the need to show off lifting a weight they couldnt handle
 
mrplunkey said:
Any chance I can get a "self-appointed gym police suck" too? I'm going for broke here!

Absolutely not. A lot of times the nerds who work at the gym don't have the balls to call out inconsiderate users. "It's a dirty job, but soneone's got to do it."

If I were plat my new sig would be "Self-appointed gym policeman."
 
mrplunkey said:
I agree -- and that's really the problem with unsolicited advice. Some people don't see it, but critiquing someone for dropping dumbells is just another form of unsolicited advice. It's no different than someone approaching me about my form, how much time I'm spending in the squat rack, my weight/rep recipe, how I've structured my investment portfolio, or whether I want to make $$$ while I sleep on some self-improvement plan.

My workout partner is a full-time professional personal trainer and when I see him periodically walk-up to these housewives offering unsolicited advice, hell -- I feel the urge to pimp-slap him and I'm not even the one getting the advice! It's not like he isn't correct... we'll see these 35-55 year old housewives doing pull-downs behind their necks with their heads cranked-out a good 6 inches forward. Hell, you can practically HEAR the discs in their necks shearing as they pull the weight... but you know, I still think it's not our place to comment. Now, if they ASK (and they sometimes do), he'll stop and spend quite a bit of time with them and I don't mind it slowing-down our workout one bit. Hopefully, the housewife gets more for her effort and my partner gets a shot at a new client.

Anyway... this is a perspective issue and realize that you can be 100% correct directionally and still be very offensive by walking-up to someone you don't know.

This has zero to do with unsolicited advice. I couldn't give two shits about people's crappy form. But when it starts to turn my dumbells into scrap metal, then yes, I believe I have a right to say something.

Disagree all you like, but let's not make this something that it clearly isn't.
 
Lumberg said:
"It's a dirty job, but soneone's got to do it."
You know, on this thread a self-appointed policeman stepped-in to protect us from dropped dumbells. If instead the gym policeman was protecting us from suspected illegal steroid and prohormone users in our local gym, I wonder if the same logic would apply? After all, I'm sure those gym nerds shy away from that issue as well and rules are rules, aren't they?
 
mrplunkey said:
You know, on this thread a self-appointed policeman stepped-in to protect us from dropped dumbells. If instead the gym policeman was protecting us from suspected illegal steroid and prohormone users in our local gym, I wonder if the same logic would apply? After all, I'm sure those gym nerds shy away from that issue as well and rules are rules, aren't they?

So Ido this ONE fucking time in eleven years of lifting. And now I'm a gym cop huh? A mean old man now right?

Again, this has NOTHING to do with me being some self apointed hall monitor. It happened ONCE. And I don't really give a crap about the rules, that was never the main point. The main point is, as you so desparately are trying to avoid, is that he's fucking up equipment that I help pay for. And for that I said ONE sentence to him, nothing more. And I'm some crotchety old man for that??

Jesus man...I hope you aren't so quick to judge the rest of the people in your life so harshly.
 
gymtime said:
...to turn my dumbells into scrap metal, then yes, I believe I have a right to say something.
You witnessed the possibility that his crappy technique would "turn your dumbells into scrap metal" -- you didn't watch him damage equipment. There is a big difference. You made an assessment and offered unsolicited advice.

Does that mean if some guy in the gym thinks you're about to "turn the squat cage into scrap metal" by trying what he thinks is too much weight that he should accost you about it?
 
I see you're simply going to take every figure of speech I use literally and use it to try to bolster your point, while continuing to miss the real one.

This is going nowhere. We disagree. I'm done.
 
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if i bust up a set of dumbells or a bar (bent one a month ago)... arent our gym dues supposed to be used to REPLACE this equipment?... not that this is done intentionally at all, but in powerlifting i test my limits quite often and accidents do happen...
i have to dump heavy squats sometimes... sometimes i miss a heavy power clean...
but we pay gym dues for a reason.. so the OP being a RAT because he's trying to 'protect the equipment' is moot...
lift and let lift...
 
my gym has a strict policy on dropping weights. i've done it once and that is when i was clean and jerking and i failed on my jerk and the weight slammed down.. the manager came and yelled at me

when i used to work out at Worlds Gym they would have wood flooring in a section for clean and jerking and they didn't care if you dropped the weight. it was far from everyone else so it was no problem. it was huge. most gyms do not have the space for something like that though
 
Easy, if you have to drop you you are not building muscle or strength, and you are endangering the members around you.. the gym insurance company doesn't like this one bit..
 
^dude, i weigh 50lbs less than you and deadlift more than you...
how is your core strength THAT strong to have an ego... and call people pussies because they have to bail on a squat or clean?... maybe if you pushed your limits a bit more you would fail a few lifts...
 
^dude, i weigh 50lbs less than you and deadlift more than you...
how is your core strength THAT strong to have an ego... and call people pussies because they have to bail on a squat or clean?... maybe if you pushed your limits a bit more you would fail a few lifts...


Sorry maybe i didnt explain myself enough

If ur squatting or deadlifting then IMO u can be as loud as u fuckin want!!
BUT...When you are doing db incline press, then when ur done just put them on ur knees lift them up and take them back to the rack. No need to slam them down or even drop them. I am db inclining 140's and i dont need to drop them

I db military 110's for reps and i dont need to drop the weights at all



btw how much u DL? IM easily in the upper 400's right now
 
its all good... i would never drop a dumbell press either... i have bailed on heavy db pullovers though (120lbs)...
do a search of threads started by me... the one titled NorCal Championships has a video of my last powerlifting meet...
i pulled 501@148, pulled 505 last week in the gym (no video)... this week i was sick and took it easy...
a few weeks ago i was training squats and went for 455 (with knee wraps) and had to bail on it... the cheap ass bar at golds gym was bent pretty badly... totaly useless now... they still havent replaced it yet, they removed it, but no new one yet... this gym sucks for powerlifting, but its all i have...
 
lol @ ppl dropping weights. No matter what i am doing i slowly lower them, and i wont let them touch the ground. It would hurt my ego if i let them hit the ground since I love being able to not let them touch the ground because of my core strength

ppl are just pussies

i powerlifted when i was your age and we would drop the weights after our clean and jerk during competitions.

its one thing to slam it down, its another to 'guide' it down.

in any event gyms dont like weights slamming down... its not just for insurance reasons either. i've trained at gyms in 3rd world countries where there are no insurance and they still make you wear a shirt and yell at you for dropping weights.
 
i powerlifted when i was your age and we would drop the weights after our clean and jerk during competitions.

its one thing to slam it down, its another to 'guide' it down.

in any event gyms dont like weights slamming down... its not just for insurance reasons either. i've trained at gyms in 3rd world countries where there are no insurance and they still make you wear a shirt and yell at you for dropping weights.


sry that post of mine was vague, i was only talking about ppl slamming down or even dropping db's

deads, squats, oly lifts, slam all u want!

Its annoying to be in a more quiet gym and hear db's slamming down
 
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