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leco3344unt
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thats not that low but I would get another doctor, an anti E could help. Some claim herbs raise your test but few if any would make a difference.
tribulus is available at health store. www.proteinfactory.com has a product called unleashed.
Lestat said:
have you tried making an appointment with a anti-aging clinic, they tend to be preaty liberal with test levels and gh levels, they should be able to help you out with wither enthanate or cypionate some anti estrogens etc. or that dht cream, might be worth lookin in to
x_muscle said:
im only 24. the last time i juiced it was deca , winny and finaplex cattle pills.
it was a good stack but at that time i had no pct stuff avalible to me so i crashed.
i have tren, winny and primo to stack.
but i would like to put some low dose of test(200mg to 300mg wk) only to get my test levels up a bit while on cycle( not for big mass gains). my only problem is that when i come off of the entire cycle is that i'll lose alot of gains because of the test gains are ussaully hard to keep on! I have clomid, nolvedex and hcg.
Question1. my hcg is about to expire in two months, i heard that when juice expires you can still use it for only a couple months after. what do you think?
Question2. if i cant use it because it expires do you think i'll be fine with clomid and nolvedex?
Question 3. do you think if i mix test in this cycle that i 'll have a hard time keeping gains with a pct regime even at low test dosages?
thanks bro!
celica
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www.tribestan.com is the best
When did this happen? How long has it been?loopy107 said:
If you are trying to reestablish natural T levels, then this is the wrong place to start.loopy107 said:
Oil based gear is good quite a bit after the expiration date (I have 200mg/ml Test-E that is 2yr expired and still tests out at 191mg/ml). HCG, and other proteins, aren’t as stable, though. You will have to discard this.loopy107 said:
Assuming you are considering PCT now. Clomid should be fine for PCT.loopy107 said:
Honestly no idea what you are trying to do. Do you want to recover or to run another cycle? I am confused because your first post refers to your T level of 425. But whatever.loopy107 said:
If you don’t have a plan for “recovering” yourself to a normal free-T level then, yes, you most certainly will have trouble maintaining your gains. You’ll also have a hell of a time keeping the fat off.
thx9000 said:
what i really want to do is get my test levels higher than 425 or to normal range.( i dont know what my normal level was cause i was only test once and it was 2 years after the crash.). i guess i was just being impatient and wanted to raise my t levels and do the stack, which your right ,its the wrong thing to do!
so what i really need to do is give my test a boost so i can feel alive in the gym and also feel normal and motivated, then do my stack.
but here the problem!
question 1. my t levels crashed 2 years ago is now at 425 which a hell of alot better than before(which my sex drive was shit but got better at 425)
how can i get it up a little with out seeing a doc(cause they wont help me)
with a natural supplement if there is any that would help?
question 2. you said clomid should help if i was to start taking it now, even if its been two years after the crash and not right after the cycle was done?
question 3. if its ok to start pct with clomid two years after the crash , how much and how long should i take it.
what i really want is to recover even if my test got to 550 or 600 i would be
happy as long as it not staying at 425.(for two year my nuts had pains , they would shrink one day then regenerate the next ! and it was on and off like that all the time)and i dont know what to do!!!
As already alluded to, you need to know more than Total T. Please get tested for free and weakly bound test levels. Perhaps this was already done by the doc? Also, what was your E2 and total E levels like? If T, Free T and WB-T are low while E2 and/or total E is elevated you might be able to fix things by lowering E/E2 and, thus indirectly, SHBG. Net result T and Free T go up. Not saying this is your solution, just suggesting that there's more to the picture before you start experimenting.
Marcinator
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Tribulus don't work worth a crap.
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musclemuscle
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just find a good source bro or a new doctor like omega said
mrhoon
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This is a shot in the dark. You said you go to the gym? Are you fit, or overweight? I just did a google of "overweight men and low testosterone" and there were many studies about overweight men, especially with a high concentration of viceral fat, with lower testosterone. Google it and check it out if it applies.
Also if you are overtraining, that could hinder normal hormone production.
Also if you are overtraining, that could hinder normal hormone production.
pursuit
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Its likely that you may still not have fully recovered from that cycle even though it was two years ago.
You need to use HCG along with the Clomid/Nolvadex for a PCT.
If your HCG is about to go out of date, then start using it soon, presuming you know what you're doing. Do you?
A couple of weeks after PCT get your test levels checked again and take it from there.
You may want to play around with herbal supplements such as Tribulus or TongKat Ali after this standard PCT protocol is complete. (I've used Tribulus personally and I do feel a mild boost from it.)
You need to use HCG along with the Clomid/Nolvadex for a PCT.
If your HCG is about to go out of date, then start using it soon, presuming you know what you're doing. Do you?
A couple of weeks after PCT get your test levels checked again and take it from there.
You may want to play around with herbal supplements such as Tribulus or TongKat Ali after this standard PCT protocol is complete. (I've used Tribulus personally and I do feel a mild boost from it.)
