Global warming?

[nimbus]

Do you watch TV? I can't go a day without seeing a commercial for a class action lawsuit where a law firm is looking for more people to join the class. Hell, I've gotten letters for at least six class action suits against Volkswagen for minor issues that caused zero deaths or injuries. Don't you think those lawyers won't form a class action lawsuit against polluters if it was allowed?

it is allowed. guess it didn't work, since the acts save lives.

 

[kx250rider]

First, Al Gore has nothing to do with Global warming theory other than the fact that he is smart enough to understand it and communicate it. The evidence has been compiled for more than a hundred years by PhD scientists who study it every day. Its hard science, not Al Gore's or anyone else, imagination.

Second, natural warming and cooling cycles are not part of the man made global warming problem. It is proven; it is a fact, and no expert in the field denys it.

Third, you can't simply "prepare" for some of the predicted outcomes of continued warming. dead crops, dead forests, dead ocean, sea level covering major cities, etc. All this stuff doesn't happen tomorrow, but refusing to acknowledge that we have a responsibility to our planet and to our children is the ultimate irresponsibility.
I have no problem with contingency planning for environmental changes we will unfortunately be unable to avoid, but that has to be combined with an understanding of how we as humans impact this earth and doing what we can to keep it in balance. Nobody is talking about stopping oil drilling, but it only makes sense to talk about alternatives for a long term plan. Logical people have been talking about that for decades, long before Global warming was in the news.

Decreasing supplies of oil (yes it is limited), increased effect of emmisions, growing populations and demand for energy, Political instability that will be caused by demand for energy, food, water and space, etc.
A plan to "keep doing what we are doing" is not a plan, and we don't need the short sighted and the ignorant in this country making policy decisions so vitally important.

Republicans need to join the rest of the civilized world and quit acting like a bunch of ignorant bible thumping dopes. Let's talk about how to manage environmental concerns without killing economic growth. Let's drop the head in the sand science denial.

Assuming for a minute, that hypothetically we have even a tiny bit of influence on climate change (and I'm not supporting that theory personally), the earth will still end some day, all of us on this forum will most probably be dead and gone in less than 100 years, and we can either live our lives and prosper while we're here, or we can waste all of our opportunities in some kind of a misguided effort to change the inevitable.

The fundamental problem with the environmental crowd today, is that it's all fake, and all driven by special interests who benefit from all these fraudulent causes supported by "global warming". The government gives out $billions in grants and never-to-be-paid loans to anyone who comes up with a good enough fairy tale about a global warming study. That's fact that can be proven too.

When I see some moderation and compromise, AND when I see an UNBIASED scientist demonstrate PROOF and not THEORY, and only then, will I even listen to the climate change doomsayers. Until then, I'm going to consider the whole thing to be a government-funded ruse. I'll live my life and use as much fuel as I want to pay for with my money, and I'm going to paint things with paint that lasts, and clean things with chemicals that really clean, and I'm going to use fertilizers that make my trees prosper, and spray pesticides which control the pests.

With that said, I also know that the other side feels as strongly as I do, so I herewith agree to disagree, and I don't need to get into a "me right-them wrong" debate. That's one of the main reasons why there are two sides opposing each other, and not a middle ground trying to get to the real truth in climate change to begin with....

Charles

 

[Jack steel]

Im all about the Oilpatch...thats my my life...keep Drilling!!!

Hell ya

 

[Jack steel]

Assuming for a minute, that hypothetically we have even a tiny bit of influence on climate change (and I'm not supporting that theory personally), the earth will still end some day, all of us on this forum will most probably be dead and gone in less than 100 years, and we can either live our lives and prosper while we're here, or we can waste all of our opportunities in some kind of a misguided effort to change the inevitable.

The fundamental problem with the environmental crowd today, is that it's all fake, and all driven by special interests who benefit from all these fraudulent causes supported by "global warming". The government gives out $billions in grants and never-to-be-paid loans to anyone who comes up with a good enough fairy tale about a global warming study. That's fact that can be proven too.

When I see some moderation and compromise, AND when I see an UNBIASED scientist demonstrate PROOF and not THEORY, and only then, will I even listen to the climate change doomsayers. Until then, I'm going to consider the whole thing to be a government-funded ruse. I'll live my life and use as much fuel as I want to pay for with my money, and I'm going to paint things with paint that lasts, and clean things with chemicals that really clean, and I'm going to use fertilizers that make my trees prosper, and spray pesticides which control the pests.

Charles

AMEN, brother!

 

[nimbus]

Assuming for a minute, that hypothetically we have even a tiny bit of influence on climate change (and I'm not supporting that theory personally), the earth will still end some day, all of us on this forum will most probably be dead and gone in less than 100 years, and we can either live our lives and prosper while we're here, or we can waste all of our opportunities in some kind of a misguided effort to change the inevitable.

The fundamental problem with the environmental crowd today, is that it's all fake, and all driven by special interests who benefit from all these fraudulent causes supported by "global warming". The government gives out $billions in grants and never-to-be-paid loans to anyone who comes up with a good enough fairy tale about a global warming study. That's fact that can be proven too.

When I see some moderation and compromise, AND when I see an UNBIASED scientist demonstrate PROOF and not THEORY, and only then, will I even listen to the climate change doomsayers. Until then, I'm going to consider the whole thing to be a government-funded ruse. I'll live my life and use as much fuel as I want to pay for with my money, and I'm going to paint things with paint that lasts, and clean things with chemicals that really clean, and I'm going to use fertilizers that make my trees prosper, and spray pesticides which control the pests.

With that said, I also know that the other side feels as strongly as I do, so I herewith agree to disagree, and I don't need to get into a "me right-them wrong" debate. That's one of the main reasons why there are two sides opposing each other, and not a middle ground trying to get to the real truth in climate change to begin with....

Charles

the proof is there; the main reason why there are two sides opposing each other so vehemently is because one side took the time to learn about the issue and is willing to take steps to address it, and the other is willfully ignorant so that they don't have to change their lifestyle. btw, nobody is trying to take away your fuel, paint, fertilizer, cleaning supplies, or pesticides in the name of climate change. that is rhetoric somebody used to scare you into opposing climate science and legislation

 

[brownbrown]

There is NO more climate change "Debate" . Its a fucking consensus that it's scientific fact.
Now the "Level" of impact is what they are still researching.

Those scientists and their fancy schooling and lifetime in Science are so full of shit.

This thread is fucking Hilarious.

The lack of future natural resource planning is astounding.

 

[redsamurai]

Assuming for a minute, that hypothetically we have even a tiny bit of influence on climate change (and I'm not supporting that theory personally), the earth will still end some day, all of us on this forum will most probably be dead and gone in less than 100 years, and we can either live our lives and prosper while we're here, or we can waste all of our opportunities in some kind of a misguided effort to change the inevitable.

The fundamental problem with the environmental crowd today, is that it's all fake, and all driven by special interests who benefit from all these fraudulent causes supported by "global warming". The government gives out $billions in grants and never-to-be-paid loans to anyone who comes up with a good enough fairy tale about a global warming study. That's fact that can be proven too.

When I see some moderation and compromise, AND when I see an UNBIASED scientist demonstrate PROOF and not THEORY, and only then, will I even listen to the climate change doomsayers. Until then, I'm going to consider the whole thing to be a government-funded ruse. I'll live my life and use as much fuel as I want to pay for with my money, and I'm going to paint things with paint that lasts, and clean things with chemicals that really clean, and I'm going to use fertilizers that make my trees prosper, and spray pesticides which control the pests.

With that said, I also know that the other side feels as strongly as I do, so I herewith agree to disagree, and I don't need to get into a "me right-them wrong" debate. That's one of the main reasons why there are two sides opposing each other, and not a middle ground trying to get to the real truth in climate change to begin with....

Charles

^^and this is precisely why the human race is over. The earth will end in 3 billion or so years when the sun goes supernova....so naturally the correct course of action is to ensure we make the place unliveable for anything but the insect kingdom within the next century or so. Makes sense. Very rational.

 

[kx250rider]

the proof is there; the main reason why there are two sides opposing each other so vehemently is because one side took the time to learn about the issue and is willing to take steps to address it, and the other is willfully ignorant so that they don't have to change their lifestyle. btw, nobody is trying to take away your fuel, paint, fertilizer, cleaning supplies, or pesticides in the name of climate change. that is rhetoric somebody used to scare you into opposing climate science and legislation

There were also many scientists who "proved" that the Earth was flat for thousands of years, 'til that theory got debunked in 1492. I think if I recall, their "proof" was based on the theory that gravity would force everything to fly off into space on the other side of a sphere, were it in fact a sphere. And indeed that would be an accurate scientific "fact". But they failed to take into account that this particular sphere; the Earth, was in fact the center of it's own gravity. Sure there were hecklers and nay sayers, and they ate their words when Columbus showed up back in Europe from the opposite direction . In other words, there are many factors in this climate change equation unknown, and pieces yet missing that we probably don't even know to look for, and there cannot be a conclusive understanding until all of those missing pieces are in place. And another point that I failed to make in the earlier post: If there is a man-made cataclysm on the way, maybe it's needed because we're over-populated, and so many nations and people won't look at birth control due to religious and cultural issues.

Charles

 

[brownbrown]

I believe the earth is flat. Fuck those doctored pictures, astronauts, scientists.
Oh and the Sun revolves around the earth too.
And Animals don't go extinct also. that shit is fake too.

I reject your Reality and substitute my own

 

[redsamurai]

Your logic is solid Charles. Don't ever let anyone ever tell you otherwise.