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Give me a fucking break! U.S. Athletes Told Not to Carry Flag at Olympics!

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U.S. Athletes Told Not to Carry Flag at Olympics
The Sunday Telegraph | 16 May, 2004 | Simon Hart

American athletes have been warned not to wave the US flag during their medal celebrations at this summer's Olympic Games in Athens for fear of provoking crowd hostility and harming the country's already battered public image.

The spectacle of victorious athletes grabbing a national flag and parading it around the stadium is a familiar part of international sporting competition, but US Olympic officials have ordered their 550-strong team to exercise restraint and avoid any jingoistic behaviour.

The plan is part of a charm offensive aimed at repairing the country's international reputation following the deepening crisis in Iraq and damaging revelations of torture and mistreatment of detainees by US forces at the Abu Ghraib prison.

"American athletes find themselves in extraordinary circumstances in Athens in relation to the world as we know it right now," said Mike Moran, a veteran former spokesman for the US Olympic Committee who has been retained as a consultant to advise athletes about the correct way to behave.

"Regardless of whether there is anti-American sentiment in Athens or not, the world watches Americans a lot now in terms of how they behave and our culture. What I am trying to do with the athletes and coaches is to suggest to them that they consider how the normal things they do at an event, including the Olympics, might be viewed as confrontational or insulting or cause embarrassment."

Four years ago, at the Sydney Olympics, the victorious American 4 x 100m relay team were widely condemned for their arrogant strutting with the US flag following their gold medal presentation, and American officials, mindful of the country's precarious standing in world opinion, are desperate to avoid any repeat.

"Unfortunately, using the flag as a prop or a piece of apparel or indulging in boasting behaviour is becoming part of our society in sport because every night on TV we see our athletes - professional, college or otherwise - taunting their opponents and going face to face with each other," said Mr Moran. "We are trying, for 17 days, to break that culture.

"What I am telling the athletes is, 'Don't run over and grab a flag and take it round the track with you.' It's not business as usual for American athletes. If a Kenyan or a Russian grabs their national flag and runs round the track or holds it high over their heads, it might not be viewed as confrontational. Where we are in the world right now, an American athlete doing that might be viewed in another manner."

Mr Moran added that the behaviour of British athletes could face similar scrutiny in Athens, though the British Olympic Association insists that there are no plans to ban them from celebrating with the Union flag.

A spokesman for the association said: "It's up to every athlete how he or she wishes to celebrate their Olympic success and there are no plans to issue any instructions. We are confident that every athlete will celebrate in a responsible way."

The US Olympic Committee's anxiety at over-exuberant displays of jingoism is a far cry from the scenes at the 2002 Winter Olympics, hosted by Salt Lake City, where the American flag became the defining symbol of the Games.

A different environment awaits the American team in Athens, where officials are anxious to replace apple pie with humble pie.

Americans were booed at the World Athletics Championships in Paris last year - largely as a result of Jon Drummond's histrionic protest at his disqualification from a heat of the 100 metres. And at an Olympic football qualifying match in Mexico earlier this year the American team was subjected to sustained barracking by a section of the crowd, including chants of "Osama, Osama".

Despite the extra burden being placed on American athletes, officials still predict a US medal haul of more than 100, and have made it their target to finish top of the medals table. The irony is that finishing the Games as the most powerful nation is unlikely to endear them to the rest of the world.

"We're not the favourite kid in the world right now," admitted Bill Martin, the US Olympic Committee's acting president.

"We are sensitive not only to the security issue but to jingoism in its raw sense. That is why we are sending people around to educate the athletes as to the appropriate behaviour."
 
let me get this straight...it is considered jingoistic to be proud of your country and to be patriotic? what the fuck?! oh wait, that only applies to americans...

give me a motherfucking break!

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Its true. Maybe its not fair but the US is not in the same global position lithuania is in right now and waving our flag will have different effects.
 
It's a tough call. Athleres could be able to be proud of there country and show their national pride but I understand the flipside too. The question is what to do? As American with the times they way they are now I saw fuck going abroad unless I really really had too. For me there ain't nuthin' in any other country right now that would make want to step outside of North America.
 
You know what they're right.

The ones who made these statements don't say they agree that Americans should keep a low profile about their nationality in the Olympics, but guess what, there's a LOT of people who hate you guys right now, and if you blast Bruce Springsteen or jimi hendrixes SSB and come out waving your stars and stripes, shit will go wrong.

Perhaps not agression. That's not the vibe of the Olympics. but be ready for uncomfortable, clear, deep silence, or perhaps Boo-ing.

Violence is possible. I don't believe it will happen. but it could.

Remember when Serena Williams had sayd in an interview how she supported the Iraq war plan and how she felt quite strongly against the French? Then she went to play Roland Garros in France and she got Boo'ed the hell out of. Tennis crowds are relatively classy.

It was sad, although she fucking annoyed the hell out of me. She sayd some very stupid things.

Then she lost to a French woman and was very disrespectful, she blamed everybody but herself and would not congratulate her opponent with the victory or even look her in the eye. Such sportsmanship is an iron tradition in tennis and she stepped on some toes. She probably should not have sayd anything about politics in the first place. Even people who are still pro iraq war would agree the things she sayd were stupid.

I think The American olympic team should come, I think they should sing their anthem and have their flag hanging over the stage when they win a medal.

I don't know if running a lap around a stadium with a huge US flag right now is very smart though.
 
oh jesus, you people care too much what other people think. it wouldnt surprise me if some of you used polling data on what you should wear outside in public each day.

the people who are going to hate us are going to hate us regardless of whether or not we do a victory lap with our flag.

but you're right, the world is so fucked as it is, so unless we are some brutal regime, committing genocide in our country, supporting terrorists, selling banned materials to rogue nations, communist, etc, people are going to hate us anyhow.
 
Well Poink if all Americans were like you I'd hate Americans too.

Because you obviously hate Europeans.
Don't go pretending like we all loved Saddam.... please...
His image is as terrible here as anywhere else. But we realise he was never a threat.
There is no nation, outside of Iraq itself, where anyone at all was scared of Saddam.
Only in the USA, because people were taught to.
 
Robert Jan said:
Well Poink if all Americans were like you I'd hate Americans too.

Because you obviously hate Europeans.
Don't go pretending like we all loved Saddam.... please...
His image is as terrible here as anywhere else. But we realise he was never a threat.
There is no nation, outside of Iraq itself, where anyone at all was scared of Saddam.
Only in the USA, because people were taught to.

what makes you think i hate europeans? i hate no one based solely upon the area of the world in which they live, or their color, or their religion, sex, etc. not to mention, i am a second generation immigrant from europe.

in fact, i dont even hate liberals. one of my good friends from freshmen year, who i have not seen in 2+ years but still kept in touch, is coming back this week and i can't wait. and she is so fucking liberals she would make people like wodin and hooch cry.

does this mean i trust liberals in positions of power? hell no. can i be friends with them? yes, and many of my friends are.
 
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