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ginseng increases testosterone 10 fold?

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check out this article, ive seen alot of studies that say ginseng raises testosterone



THE HORMONAL SYSTEM

It was established by modern research in the 1970's that ginseng relieves stress on the adrenal glands. It has recently been proven that both ginseng and deer antler, a Chinese health tonic often combined with ginseng affect luteinizing hormone (LH) In laboratory experiments at the Department of Physiology at Jianxi Medical College, animals were given ginsenosides from ginseng and the active fraction from deer antler. Luteinizing hormone secretion increased dramatically, about ten fold. This hormone influences the menstrual cycle in women and it stimulates testosterone secretion in men. Ginseng and antler extracts were also shown to increase testosterone secretion in males; this can help overcome impotence and will have an influence on muscular development. In the laboratory experiments a 45-90% increase in testosterone levels was found. Ginseng and deer antler have been used for centuries in Chinese remedies for menstrual disorders and for male impotence; this research confirms their efficacy.

Luteinizing hormone is produced by the pituitary gland, so it is proposed that ginseng and deer antler ingredients do not have a direct hormonal action but instead influence the production of hormones by the body. In Italian studies of activity on the glands and hormone secretions in mice, the findings suggest that ginseng has a strong influence on the hypothalamus and pituitary glands, and
that the adrenal effects of ginseng that are often noted were linked to these glands. Ginseng extracts of varying strength were given to normal rats and to rats who had their adrenal cortex removed. Based on the biochemical and histological evaluation of their spleen, liver, thymus, and other organs, it was
suggested that ginseng induced the pituitary to release ACTH (a steroid hormone also produced by the adrenal cortex), which influenced the functions of the organs.

It is generally agreed by researchers today that ginseng exerts its effects on what is called the "pituitary, hypothalamus, adrenal axis." The term indicates the coordinated functions of these three in regulating metabolism, response, and homeostasis. Furthermore, this set of interacting glands may have been indirectly recognized for centuries by the Chinese as a functional unit influencing stress, aging, sexual function, and overall vitality. In the translation of Chinese medical terminology to Western terminology, this functional unit has been assigned to the "kidney." Hence, one hears Chinese medical specialists frequently speaking of kidney functions we never otherwise associate with the kidney. In fact, the functional unit appears to rely heavily on the pituitary, hypothalamus, adrenal axis. As a result of the hormone research, we have a clearer picture of the ancient science of Oriental medicine.

The hormonal effects are usually noted with higher dosages of ginseng. In one of the Swiss studies of athletes using relatively low ginseng dosage (equal to 1.0 grams of ginseng per day), hormone levels were monitored and no significant change was observed. Studies demonstrating a strong hormonal effect used the equivalent of about 3.0 grams per day of ginseng.

During a double- blind study of the effects of ginseng conducted by the Institute for Traditional Medicine in the U.S., it was noted that large doses of (3.0 - 4.5 grams per day) appeared to influence the menstrual cycle of women. Reports of altered cycle length or change in bleeding pattern during menstruation were made by 29% of the women receiving ginseng daily for three weeks. For the purpose of regulating menstruation, ginseng is usually combined with tang- kuei and other Chinese herbs, and not used alone.
 
i dont know just browsing the net, its not the only ariticle or study ive seen either supporting the theory that ginseng boots test. im might give it a try, what the hell.
 
One thing

I have read is that since ginseng is generally found in "herbal supplements", and several of these import the ginseng from Siberia or China, that the quality and doseage (despite what is said on the label) is hard to determine and may be out and out false. Not railing against ginseng useage, mind you, but I also read a study in Fitness Magazine where they tested endurance/performance/ and VO2 max of 20 subjects using ginseng (unsure of the dosing, sorry) and 20 who did not. the results were not proven to be significant. Small sample size, but that is what I have seen. Sorry I can't find the specific articles.
 
hehe i read actually that ginseng taken in excess can mimic estrogen. not a good thing. dont know if what u read or what i read is true. either way i say if a large increase in test is what your after, eat, train right, get your rest, and juice it up!!
 
If they have not listed research references - then chances are good that the blurb is shite.. advertising hype for ginseng.

For example, Tribulus has a research record. However, it is flawed - since all of the studies on tribulus have been performed by the bods at Sopharma (Tribestan).

Ginseng does fuck all for test.
 
All I know is that when I take 6-10 grams a day of quality siberian gensing I feel the difference. It affects the adrenal glands so I thought it might affect testosterone levels too, since the adrenals also produce testosterone. In various studies, ginseng increased testosterone levels and sperm count in animals, so maybe it's possible that it could do the same in humans. Maybe someday I'll get around to doing my own test, testing my test levels and then taking 6-10 grams of ginseng then testing them again to see if there is a spike. But it's not high on my priority list since I already know I feel a difference when I take it, so what's there to prove?
 
Ginseng is a good supplement addition for health,but this article is absolutely ludicrous.Let's just stop using anabolics,since ginseng will give us the equivelant level of 500mgs/week of test,lol...
 
I just read the title "ginseng increases testosterone 10 fold". 10 fold is alot. I don't think the human body can produce anywhere near that amount. Did the article have that title when you found it? It looks like a good article, I just don't see them using that title, since nowhere in the article does it say nor imply anything about a 10 fold increase in testosterone.
 
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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:
Ginseng is a good supplement addition for health,but this article is absolutely ludicrous.Let's just stop using anabolics,since ginseng will give us the equivelant level of 500mgs/week of test,lol...


lol...if thats true why are chinese people so small?
 
Sterone said:
All I know is that when I take 6-10 grams a day of quality siberian gensing I feel the difference. It affects the adrenal glands so I thought it might affect testosterone levels too, since the adrenals also produce testosterone. In various studies, ginseng increased testosterone levels and sperm count in animals, so maybe it's possible that it could do the same in humans. Maybe someday I'll get around to doing my own test, testing my test levels and then taking 6-10 grams of ginseng then testing them again to see if there is a spike. But it's not high on my priority list since I already know I feel a difference when I take it, so what's there to prove?


tHEN YOU WILL HAVE THJE SAME (OOPS CAPSLOCK) same problem that researchers of test have... namely, that test is released sporadically throughout the day anyway.. a mg here.. another mg a bit later.. all in response to LH.

So will you be measuring an increase or a natural spike?

Again, ginseng and tribulus are shitty shitey shit shit.
 
GaryWary said:
namely, that test is released sporadically throughout the day anyway.. a mg here.. another mg a bit later.. all in response to LH. So will you be measuring an increase or a natural spike?
If I did a study several tests would be done, spread through out the day and for several weeks off the ginseng, then on it. That would be the proper way to do it to overcome the natural spikes. You measure the natural "spikes", then when you get the feel of what they are, you add the ginseng. Then if the "spikes" and overall levels of test increase, maybe 50% or maybe even 70% then you know you have sometihing. But like I said, I doubt I will ever do this test since I don't give a shit about proving it to anyone. I know it works for me and that's enough. I don't see the point in wasting my time proving it to anyone else.
GaryWary said:

Again, ginseng and tribulus are shitty shitey shit shit.
Sorry you're going to have to be more specific if you want to me to understand whatever it is you are trying to say with that statement. I know there has been instances of herb wholesale companies keeping their stock in large unprotected barns and warehouses where rats got into the product and contminated it with feces and who knows what else. All I can say is this is another reason to do your homework before purchasing herbs or supplements. Know the company you are buying from and where they get their product.
 
Either the article's bogus or you just can't carry over the results to humans. I just did a research paper and found no evidence whatsoever that ginseng affects sex hormones, especially testosterone and estradiol. A number of studies have demonstrated no effect- if you want references just ask and I'll list them.

And gary wary's right, tribulus is snake oil too. Alot of research on it was conducted by Tribestan and one of the major studies which was relied upon by the industry which shows an increase in testosterone and sexual potency was done on RAMS that had sexual problems. So unless you're an impotent ram (lol), leave the crap on the shelves at the supplement store and stick to the good stuff.
 
In Asia, ginseng remains the most popular herb for restoring sexual desire and function. best known as a tonic herb that can improve averall health, ginseng is also a rich source of plant hormones, which can enhance both energy levels and sex drive .Although human studies are scarce ,(animal studies )have shown that ginseng can increase testosterone levels,sperm production ,and sexual activity in males .
 
I was going to take 1,000 mg a week of test and 800mg of EQ but shit after reading this i think im going to do a all ginseng only cycle ;)
 
I have been drinking Sobe green tea with Ginseng for the last 3 weeks......Is that why my nuts are shrinking? And all this time I thought it was the dbol!!
 
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