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Kakdiesel

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i have a quick question..if i have say a 250ml bottle of 99% GBL, how much is considered one "dose" for "cleaning purposes"
 
It really depends on the individual..

but it seems like 2.5ml does the trick for me.. any more is too much..

I started at 2ml and worked my way up over several days to find my 2.5ml standard.
 
yeh, start with 2ml with syringe, that stuff tastes worse than anything i've ever put in my mouth by the way, don't OD, give it a while to set in to see how you react.
 
I'd play it safe and start with 1ml of gbl. that is some strong shit and even an extra .5ml can make you go from a nice buzz, to throwing up and passing out.
 
be careful!

be very,very careful with this stuff...start real low and see what it does...DONT GET IMPATIENT!use a LITTLE bit more the next time if need be.the buzz to dose has a reaaaaaly steep curvature...the guys i get from always remind me of this!peace
 
Kakdiesel said:
i have a quick question..if i have say a 250ml bottle of 99% GBL, how much is considered one "dose" for "cleaning purposes"

Convert it. GBL tastes like shit.

Fonz
 
you can convert it, but you then have to at least have scales and the knowledge of the weights of the constituents, which isn't very hard or complicated. But GBL is a nize buzz and easier to "sleep" on than GHB, pure GHB almost Jacks me up now, not even tired, hell it makes me energetic, mainly due to it being metabolized so fast in the body and the spike in epinephrine
 
2 ml's will do the trick ...but everyone is different i would reccommend starting with 1 ml seeing how ya feel then increase it til ur whacked!
 
damn glad i read this........homebooy was telling me 12cc's ........he must have been bs'ing me........but isnt a cap like 3ml and they say to take two for a buzz and 3 to get knocked out.....no wonder that shit got such a bad rap
 
Make sure the Ph level is low...My buddy just got a GBL bottle from Canada and a drop fell on his keyboard and melted a hole in it!!! VERY high Ph!!!
Careful

J
 
1mistake, that would be very low PH, GBL in its pure form is around 4, a high PH would indicate a very basic substance
 
so its cool to drink, right.....its not like that 1,4 bullshit that burns your taste buds off.......i mean no matter what i put that shit in i could not taste food for 2 days after......shit a little of it got on my face and melted a fuckin hole in my cheek....fuck 1,4
 
Just a question. Did you get your GBL from a certain European cosmetic lab? And if so, how long did your pack take to arrive, once it was posted? Thanks for any info guys.
 
Start at 2cc. It depends on how much you have had to eat as to how you react. I can tolerate 4cc but I have used it awhile and I am pretty heavy. gbl is 1,4 by the way. Mine does not burn as it is neutral ph. It does taste nasty though. I can squirt it in my mouth now and drink a little water but I would not recomend it!:drink2: :sick:

Quad
 
quadsweep, you are wrong on this one, 1,4 is NOT GBL, GBL is combined with NaOH to form GHB, 1,4 is not even an acidic substance and creates no reaction
 
"Make sure the Ph level is low...My buddy just got a GBL bottle from Canada and a drop fell on his keyboard and melted a hole in it!!! VERY high Ph!!!
Careful "

This isn't due to PH. ie sugar does not dissolve in water because water is acidic, it doesnt work that way. GBL will dissolve certain types of plastics but not all, so make sure you don't use plastic droppers for dosing. But terumo syringe plastic is resistant to it, not sure about other brands.
 
I'll tell you that the difference between 6cc's and 8cc's for me is passing out face first in a bowl of clam chowder at the beach yesterday. 6cc's gives me a great really drunk buzz. It is a steep curve, the two extra cc's put me under and I had to fight off passing out for a good 30 minutes. I almost got booted out of a bar in the middle of the day because they thought I was so drunk, my friend kept me awake though. then they couldn't figure out how an hour later I was fine. Fun day. I'll stick with 5-6 though, that seems perfect for me.
 
I have done more than my share of GBL, GHB, and 1,4. Nothing was worse than coming off of 1,4 Butanediol. GBL or GHB never gave me any witdrawl symptoms, but 1,4 holy shit. I'll never touch it again.
 
Amp said:
I'll tell you that the difference between 6cc's and 8cc's for me is passing out face first in a bowl of clam chowder at the beach yesterday. 6cc's gives me a great really drunk buzz. It is a steep curve, the two extra cc's put me under and I had to fight off passing out for a good 30 minutes. I almost got booted out of a bar in the middle of the day because they thought I was so drunk, my friend kept me awake though. then they couldn't figure out how an hour later I was fine. Fun day. I'll stick with 5-6 though, that seems perfect for me.

there's is no way your talking about pure GBL, no way at all!
 
Well Im not gonna source post here and also I dont feel comfortable giving out where the source is--so fellas, if i havent talked to you before, dont take offense, but I wont give you the name(s)
 
harddtime said:


there's is no way your talking about pure GBL, no way at all!

The bottle I have is 250ml and is supposed to be 99.9% gbl - maybe it has been watered down but how many people do you know can have 25 drinks in a 4 hour time span and still be walking and talking like they've had 6 (yah thats alot of fucking drinks and the reason I switched to G, so I wouldn't put so much alcohol and calories in my system.) I don't exactly have a normal tolerance to substances. Some other people I know do 3cc's (half cap) of this stuff - same bottle and get a really good buzz. I measure it out with a terumo syringe, 6 really gets me in a great party mood, I don't know why I thought I would go with 8 but it took everything I had not to pass out. I'm new to this gbl shit so this is the only bottle I have bought and it is supposed to be 99.9% I've done some other stuff with friends over the summer and it took me 2-3 times the amount they took to get the same effects.
 
kak, I would convert it or at least dilute it with some distilled water.
It will be much easier to dose if diluted, pure GBL is very hard to dose correctly. Also GHB is much easier on the stomach and hits you faster so you know where you are at.
Oh, and yes GBL tastes like floor stripper. Diet Dr Pepper, diet root beer and crystal light fruit punch masks the taste the best for me. Stick 2ml in a glass of crystal light and sip it slowly, when your vision starts to go and your skin gets numb you need to chill for a bit.



Have fun,
LL
 
Kakdiesel said:
Well Im not gonna source post here and also I dont feel comfortable giving out where the source is--so fellas, if i havent talked to you before, dont take offense, but I wont give you the name(s)

Kak e-mail me.

Fonz
 
I havent really heard of GHB, except thatit has a bad rap as a date rape drug,....u guys just use it to get messed up or are there bennefits?
 
GBL does have toxic effects, whereas GhB does not...that is why it is of interest to go through the troubles of converting it. Just look-I had a MILK bottle that was completely destroyed by GBL within hours. 1,4 is actually a very safe...non-acidic product that is mildly toxic if accidently ingested. I prefer 1,4 for cleaning purposes basically because it is rather undetectable if diluted which means little to know trouble with the law.
 
Amp said:


The bottle I have is 250ml and is supposed to be 99.9% gbl - maybe it has been watered down but how many people do you know can have 25 drinks in a 4 hour time span and still be walking and talking like they've had 6 (yah thats alot of fucking drinks and the reason I switched to G, so I wouldn't put so much alcohol and calories in my system.) I don't exactly have a normal tolerance to substances. Some other people I know do 3cc's (half cap) of this stuff - same bottle and get a really good buzz. I measure it out with a terumo syringe, 6 really gets me in a great party mood, I don't know why I thought I would go with 8 but it took everything I had not to pass out. I'm new to this gbl shit so this is the only bottle I have bought and it is supposed to be 99.9% I've done some other stuff with friends over the summer and it took me 2-3 times the amount they took to get the same effects.

If i had to guess i'd say who ever you pick that bottle off of, takes about half of the GBL out and fill up the rest with water. I haven't met one person who can take 6ml of the pure GBL that i get and feel good to party. I've been doing G almost everyday for well over a year and no matter how manny adderals (rx amphetamines) i'm on, 3cc's taken at once WILL knock me out. I have seen people not pass out with 4 or so CC but then they are acting like retarted children with no conception of whats going on around them. I highly doubt you'd be able to keep yourself awake with 8ml, but who knows. Everyone is different.
 
I agree!

jb


harddtime said:


If i had to guess i'd say who ever you pick that bottle off of, takes about half of the GBL out and fill up the rest with water. I haven't met one person who can take 6ml of the pure GBL that i get and feel good to party. I've been doing G almost everyday for well over a year and no matter how manny adderals (rx amphetamines) i'm on, 3cc's taken at once WILL knock me out. I have seen people not pass out with 4 or so CC but then they are acting like retarted children with no conception of whats going on around them. I highly doubt you'd be able to keep yourself awake with 8ml, but who knows. Everyone is different.
 
Thanks Kak for not helping. If you would have read my last post, you would have read that I wsn't asking for a souce, just enquiring whether you ordered from the same source I already knew about.
 
Sorry guys..but Amp is a fucked up dude!!!! If 500mg of test makes you grow,he needs 1000mg!!! He is 260 and I've seen him do 5cc's and go to work....blah,blah..it was 99.9% GBL that WAS NOT cut with anything!!!!

J
 
1Mistake said:
Sorry guys..but Amp is a fucked up dude!!!! If 500mg of test makes you grow,he needs 1000mg!!! He is 260 and I've seen him do 5cc's and go to work....blah,blah..it was 99.9% GBL that WAS NOT cut with anything!!!!

J

$100 says my tolerance is higher than AMP's.

Besides, Amp is wack.. :)

Fonz
 
Hacker said:
Hmmmmm, interesting thread.

Sure is a bitch trying to find GHB/GBL. Sure wish I had a source. wink wink :)


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Donate $100 to Fonz's Paypal Fund and I'll give you a
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Fonz
 
And just what toxic effects could that be from gbl? The only thing that I know is is a slight acidosis that "could " occur but is extremely unlikely when taken at reasonable doses, certainly has never been medically reported. Just because gbl is a solvent for some things has no bearing on whether it is safe or not. And 1,4 is good for you? Do some research, 1,4 is toxic to your liver unlike ghb or gbl!


Serenity Head said:
GBL does have toxic effects, whereas GhB does not...that is why it is of interest to go through the troubles of converting it. Just look-I had a MILK bottle that was completely destroyed by GBL within hours. 1,4 is actually a very safe...non-acidic product that is mildly toxic if accidently ingested. I prefer 1,4 for cleaning purposes basically because it is rather undetectable if diluted which means little to know trouble with the law.
 
jboldman said:
And just what toxic effects could that be from gbl? The only thing that I know is is a slight acidosis that "could " occur but is extremely unlikely when taken at reasonable doses, certainly has never been medically reported. Just because gbl is a solvent for some things has no bearing on whether it is safe or not. And 1,4 is good for you? Do some research, 1,4 is toxic to your liver unlike ghb or gbl!




i dunno if it's every been proven by a study that it's toxic to the liver, in fact i've seen a study that says the opposite, but i know for a fact it does fuck the liver up since one of my boyz had to go to the hospital because of prolonged use of 1,4. He never has problems with ghb/gbl but everytime he takes 1,4 his liver kills him. When he went to the hospital they ran tests and said there was nothing wrong with him, just gave him some pain killers but he knows for a fact that it was called by 1,4 since it happens everytime he used to take it.
 
Fonz said:


$100 says my tolerance is higher than AMP's.

Besides, Amp is wack.. :)

Fonz

Amp is way more wacked than you'll ever know. 1Mistake knows how I used to party. When he says 75-100 mixed drinks a week with 2 grams of test he isn't kidding. I shouldn't really even have a liver right now. As far as my bottle being cut. I don't think so, he has the same shit as me. I tried it and went to the gym for a workout. It wasn't my best workout but it was my happiest. I've given just a couple cc's to people out of my bottle and they were in party mode and felt great. I don't know why I tolerate substances so well, it's not a good thing, it's a lot cheaper to be able to do less.

And as far as people not being able to stand after 4cc's, I passed a field sobriety test last summer after drinking at least 20 vodka and sprites (yes I was a stupid idiot for drinking and driving so I don't need the flames). The cop smelled the booze on me so bad though that he just had me and my buddy pull the car into a parking lot and they called me a cab. I passed the test so they couldn't take me in after passing the test I agreed to take. I guess if they really wanted to bust my balls they could have said I failed and brought me in for a breath test but they were cool and just let me go since I was 260 and making jokes about how there was no way I drank that much because I came from a strip club where the drinks are $6.50 a piece and I couldn't afford to drink much there after having 10 strippers put their pussies in my face. How many people do you know are standing after 25 mixed drinks? I down 10 in the first hour and then take it slow drinking about 5-6 per hour for the rest of the night. I'm not bragging about this, it's just what I can do.

Wombat you there? You know how it goes here, you've been there done that so you know it's true as well.
 
littlelyle said:
so its cool to drink, right.....its not like that 1,4 bullshit that burns your taste buds off.......i mean no matter what i put that shit in i could not taste food for 2 days after......shit a little of it got on my face and melted a fuckin hole in my cheek....fuck 1,4

I don't know what 1,4 you were getting man, but that never happened to anyone I know.
 
There´s people who can tolerate 6cc´s of PURE GBL, no doubt about that. I myself used to do about 5cc of gbl to get a good buzz, others needed only 2 or 3 cc´s. I got mine from a major chemical supplier, so there´s absolutely no doubt about the purity.
About half a year ago I wanted to party at a club in Frankfurt (Germany) and since I didn´t want to drink, I measured about 12 cc of my GBL into a little vial of glass and made some marks on it, each indicating 3cc´s. The 12 cc´s were supposed to last the entire night, but after the first 5 or 6 cc´s I somehow lost control and poured down the rest:

After passing out and convulsing on the ground outside of the club for about 30 minutes the paramedics arrived and saved my fucking life. I stopped breathing, almost went into cardiac arrest, only a couple minutes later and I would´ve been dead. I scared the shit out of my friends and I reconsidered my use of drugs. I´m not a person that can handle recreational drugs, so I stopped taking any. I had a lot of overdoses of many diffferent drugs (XTC, Speed, Cocaine, Alkohol, DXM...) but GBL is by far the most dangerous.

Well, the point of my little story: Be extremely cautios using GBL, it is very, very dangerous.
 
Donate $100 to Fonz's Paypal Fund and I'll give you a
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Bastard......
LOL

I hate that it is even illegal, if people used it safely you could still walk into any GNC and buy it.
Much better for the body than drinking as far as I am concerned.
 
Depending on how you use it, you could use it for years ans see no problems but it is processed by the liver similar to alcohol and will stress the liver. I will give you an example. A couple years ago, I finished up a cycle, was clean for 4 weeks and then had a physical. My liver tests came back way out of wack. I stopped taking clomid, andything else I could think of and was retested, ,two weeks later, still high. What the fuck? Then I realized that i had been doing bdo for sleep only 1-2cc's per night, never crossed my mind that that might have anything to do with it. Stopped the bdo and two weeks later my liver values were within range. After I did that, I did some research and discovered that bdo is processed by the body in an entirely different pathway than ghb/gbl, THRU THE LIVER!. My preference is gbl since I do not get the sodium that is present with ghb.



Amenselah said:
I been using BDO for years with no side effects to liver or kidneys...
 
gainerxxl said:
There´s people who can tolerate 6cc´s of PURE GBL, no doubt about that. I myself used to do about 5cc of gbl to get a good buzz, others needed only 2 or 3 cc´s. I got mine from a major chemical supplier, so there´s absolutely no doubt about the purity.
About half a year ago I wanted to party at a club in Frankfurt (Germany) and since I didn´t want to drink, I measured about 12 cc of my GBL into a little vial of glass and made some marks on it, each indicating 3cc´s. The 12 cc´s were supposed to last the entire night, but after the first 5 or 6 cc´s I somehow lost control and poured down the rest:

After passing out and convulsing on the ground outside of the club for about 30 minutes the paramedics arrived and saved my fucking life. I stopped breathing, almost went into cardiac arrest, only a couple minutes later and I would´ve been dead. I scared the shit out of my friends and I reconsidered my use of drugs. I´m not a person that can handle recreational drugs, so I stopped taking any. I had a lot of overdoses of many diffferent drugs (XTC, Speed, Cocaine, Alkohol, DXM...) but GBL is by far the most dangerous.

Well, the point of my little story: Be extremely cautios using GBL, it is very, very dangerous.

not a very ideal way of measuring your intake. Try to get a hold of 1.5 caps or even inject GBL into Gel caps. one 00 cap holds 1ml. I pop 2 and i'm good for 4 hours and no taste at all. You guys should give it a try.
 
AnabolicusEroticus said:
Sorry Quad, but GBL is not 1, 4. 1, 4 is metabolized like an alcohol by the liver whereas GBL is not and has no toxic effects.

You know what I am wrong....Whoops! I had just done 4cc of 1,4 when I wrote that!!! Let this be a leson to you kids out there, Don't do 1, 4 and post! The life you endanger could be..................
 
TraxZBT said:


not a very ideal way of measuring your intake. Try to get a hold of 1.5 caps or even inject GBL into Gel caps. one 00 cap holds 1ml. I pop 2 and i'm good for 4 hours and no taste at all. You guys should give it a try.

wouldn't it eat through the gel caps?
 
harddtime said:


wouldn't it eat through the gel caps?

it only eats through the vegetable gel caps not the protein based ones. Just poke a hole with smallest possible needle you can get and fill it up.
 
TraxZBT said:


it only eats through the vegetable gel caps not the protein based ones. Just poke a hole with smallest possible needle you can get and fill it up.

Where do you buy protein-based gel caps?
 
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