Fuck PUA

[Hellawulf]

If the "more nervous" guys would just remember that girls are people too then it might be less stressfull. Bottom line is, not every woman will find you appealing just as you will not find all women appealing. It's a numbers game really. The more people you approach, the higher your rate of success will be.

Men, think, what do I have to offer that a woman should WANT to engage me. If the answer is "very litte/nothing" then, yes some self-improvement tips might go a long way. Make yourself the kind of man that a quality woman would be interested in and just talk to women and you will do just fine. It's not about the amount of phone numbers or giggles you get from women. It is about the quality women who give you their time.

Oh and as for the size of one's "manhood", well THE LEAST accurate measure is the size of your johnson as a quality woman won't even THINK about that right out of the starting gate. Maybe the trashy myspace skanks with no self-respect... but if that is your idea of "quality woman" then ignore EVERYTHING I HAVE TO SAY.

Numbers Game, I'm suprised you know what that is. Number Games are good for the guys that are new to meeting girls, but not for guys who have experience in the field. If you want quality girls, then you have to break bitches and snobs into liking you atleast temporarily so that you can actually get to know them. The ones who are good, are the ones that don't accept rejection, but you can't start out this way or you will just be the "creep".

Self improvement...

Manhood, size doesn't matter... the g-spot is 1-2 inches inside the vagina, and the clit is right on the front. Stimulate both and she will be yours.

"Girls are like mats, lay them right the first time and you can walk all over them for years to come" (I don't endorse this joke, but I do find it funny)

-"I used to be so well rounded, now I tiptoe on hell's boundaries"

 

[Wulfgar]

what does PUA stand for?

 

[Sodam Yat]

Manhood, size doesn't matter... the g-spot is 1-2 inches inside the vagina, and the clit is right on the front. Stimulate both and she will be yours.

LOL that's true.

But, women are dumb!

you won't believe how many girls I've met from 18 to 26 or so that say that size does matter. Yes, they're stupid

one dummy I met dumped her boyfreind after they watched a porno together.
Lesson: If you got a small wee wee, don't watch a porno with your girlfreind.




















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[RockNRollExpress]

Numbers Game, I'm suprised you know what that is. Number Games are good for the guys that are new to meeting girls, but not for guys who have experience in the field. If you want quality girls, then you have to break bitches and snobs into liking you atleast temporarily so that you can actually get to know them. The ones who are good, are the ones that don't accept rejection, but you can't start out this way or you will just be the "creep".

Self improvement...

Manhood, size doesn't matter... the g-spot is 1-2 inches inside the vagina, and the clit is right on the front. Stimulate both and she will be yours.

"Girls are like mats, lay them right the first time and you can walk all over them for years to come" (I don't endorse this joke, but I do find it funny)

-"I used to be so well rounded, now I tiptoe on hell's boundaries"

Um, I think you missed her point, dude haha.

She isn't refering to some magical technique called "numbers game", she's using the expression. Her point is just guys who are successful talk to a lot of women. The more people you talk to, the more likely you'll find someone who likes you.

 

[RockNRollExpress]

LOL that's true.

But, women are dumb!

you won't believe how many girls I've met from 18 to 26 or so that say that size does matter. Yes, they're stupid

one dummy I met dumped her boyfreind after they watched a porno together.
Lesson: If you got a small wee wee, don't watch a porno with your girlfreind.

Um, perhaps you struggle getting laid because you lack respect for women. Thinking women are "dumb" is never a good mindset to have, especially when you seem to have the intelligence of a brick.

And the reason many women say size matters is because YES, if you plan on straight jackhammering away without any clue of what you're doing in bed, as most men (and probably you) do in bed, size will matter to her. That explains the "dumb" women you've talked to.

 

[Sodam Yat]

Um, perhaps you struggle getting laid because you lack respect for women. Thinking women are "dumb" is never a good mindset to have, especially when you seem to have the intelligence of a brick.

And the reason many women say size matters is because YES, if you plan on straight jackhammering away without any clue of what you're doing in bed, as most men (and probably you) do in bed, size will matter to her. That explains the "dumb" women you've talked to.

Dude, your an idiot. Nothing you said made sense. Fuckin retard.

Woman are obsessed with size - visually - not because of this lame Jackhammering theory of yours.

I love how you accuse me of "struggling to get laid" and "have no clue what to do in bed"

Your one ignorant fuck. You made all that up. Get a clue and go by facts genius.

I'm sure you "respect" them. LOL you must be the 'nice guy' LOL!

Only nice guy wimps respect woman. You must be american. LOL

 

[RockNRollExpress]

And you can't even use "you're" in correct context.

I've had what I've written here validated by old partners. And also, if you noticed, I never said that women didn't like the visual stimulus. I just don't think that's the main reason. For someone who calls others "ignorant fucks", you sure are very closed minded.

And that's the impressive strawman you built up there by claiming that since I have respect for women, I'm a pushover. *HINT* You obviously aren't smart enough to know what a strawman debating tactic is, look it up*. Believe it or not, it is possible for someone to be in control while still treating people with respect. Perhaps you should look up who Eli Manning, Tony Dungy, and Georges St. Pierre are, for example. On second thought, don't bother. I'm judging by the strawmen you rely on and the fact that you copy and paste terms from online dating manuals that you are incapable of coherent thought.

P.S. Born in Athens, so looks like you're wrong there, too.

 

[Sodam Yat]

mooohahaha....

And you can't even use "you're" in correct context.

oh, soory that I'm wrizing to fast again and not editing. But, hey, I just misspelled sorry agggain so Iii must be a dunnyy.

stop with the lame "you can't spell" defense.

I've had what I've written here validated by old partners. And also, if you noticed, I never said that women didn't like the visual stimulus. I just don't think that's the main reason. For someone who calls others "ignorant fucks", you sure are very closed minded.

Dude, stop twisting things around.

Validated by partners? So, what did they say? And what is this "other" that you THINK is the problem?

answer: It's called stupidity.

The only other answer is that "they feel full". Even so, this does not increase the pleasure whatsoever.

And that's the impressive strawman you built up there by claiming that since I have respect for women, I'm a pushover. *HINT* You obviously aren't smart enough to know what a strawman debating tactic is, look it up*. Believe it or not, it is possible for someone to be in control while still treating people with respect. Perhaps you should look up who Eli Manning, Tony Dungy, and Georges St. Pierre are, for example. On second thought, don't bother. I'm judging by the strawmen you rely on and the fact that you copy and paste terms from online dating manuals that you are incapable of coherent thought.

I never said I disrespect women in a way that I treat them badly. I respect myself not to be push around .

I love how you keep claiming that I get my info. from self-help books. Looks like you got an insecurity. Is this what you do?

 

[Hellawulf]

RNR Express - I know what "numbers game" is. And I was a fan of it when I first started talking to girls, it was all about (because I was like 15-16) "Hey bro, I was with a girl every night this weekend." Quantity is only good, until you discover quality. As for your flame war...
Sodam - 16-24 year old girls are my specialty - they aren't dumb, they just don't know better (but they are evil) and I see why you say he must be American. As an American (and damn proud of it), most guys don't have any clue how to be sexual with women, because society over here has pussied them out, thats why PUA has become fairly popular, hopefully we will be able to desocietize our women. I think there are higher proportions of European guys who are successful with women than American.
RNR Ex - I don't want to take sides here, but seriously a grammar strike? Also as a chargers fan, I hate Eli Manning. But you have a point about being able to respect women, but it depends on what your idea of respect is. For example, I don't buy women drinks when I meet them and I rarely pay for the first date (but normally no money is needed anyways). Also, I try to date around 3-4 girls at all times, with a few coming and going. I don't hide it from them, I've talked about other dates with my dates before. Also women are sexual beings, something that American society tries to deny, so we call girls who accept their sexualness "sluts". I've never paid a girl for sex, therefore I've never slept with a slut. That said, I love acting like I'm going to try for sex with a girl, then pulling away at the last second, this drives them crazy, and it is no longer me "using" them but them actually wanting me. Also, I do pay for the dates after the first date, because I don't want to be lame, but I do want to set a standard that I'm not the average guy who they can use for free movies and dinners (they do this, and if you don't believe me, be legit with one and ask, she will eventually admit it). Finally, they normally have a lot of fun with me. I like being creative with my dates, and doing crazy stuff, spontanuity is a blessing my friend.
Sodam - big genitalia helps, but isn't necessary, therefore I'm kinda supporting your view, normally the reason for size comparison isn't because of actual satisfaction in bed (hell look at the Indians, according to Manswers the average size of penises over there is like 4.9 inches, whereas in America it is like 6.0, and they wrote the Karma Sutra), the reason for the comparison is because it is thought to be an indicator of how masculine a male is, like because he has a big wang he is stronger and healthier therefore a better mate. In the end, it doesn't matter... but I have watched porn with a few girls, and it became very interesting... I would recommend it (if she's ok with it).

The famous wise saying "when you see a woman and an opportunity, don't screw the opportunity."

 

[Nomak666]

PUA "works" without a doubt. but i believe it is 100% for people who are "nerds" or "geeks" like the ones on the show. not everyone is blessed to be good looking, and this is the option they have. because now and days, first impressions mean everything. if you are a good looking guy, then most of the tactics would just make you seem weird or creepy. thats just my opinion.