frustrated with CKD

[junosixx]

ok, so i just finished my 4th week on my first ckd ever and i'm done with it. at first, it seemed to work fine, i lost 4 lbs in the first 2 weeks. but then the weight loss halted to a crawl. furthermore, the only weight i lost in the last 2 weeks is, apparently, muscle tissue and not fat. what the heck?????

initial stats: 6'1, 203 lbs

my CKD program was simple. about 11-12 calories/pound of bodyweight. 30 grams / carb or less per day. about 60-70% calories from fat, the rest protein. broken fairly evenly between 6 meals a day. 1 carb-up day a week. i kept track of everything i ate meticulously on fitday.

i was hitting the gym 4 times a week, as usual, throwing in an extra cardio day when time allowed.

now i'm down to about 196. the really frustrating thing is this: got my bodyfat tested at the gym 2 weeks ago (electric current method) and i was at 13.2%. nowhere near where i'd like to be. i figured if i stuck with the diet i'd drop another 4 lbs in the next 2 weeks and be closer to 11%. what was my reading yesterday when i got tested again? 13.2. ASKJDAL:KSJ!!!!!!

maybe my body just does not respond well to CKD at all. has anyone else had a similar experience? i dont know where to go from here. i went on CKD because i thought it was the most hardcore, efficient way to drop bodyfat. any suggestions? zone? 40-40-20? i know you are the most knowledgeable people in the world when it comes to this. any help would be truly appreciated.

 

[fallingeggs]

i have seen some people say that the ckd diet does not work as well when you getting to the lower bf%. maybe because you do not have as much fat to turn in to ketons? i do not really know or know if this is right. i can tell you that a split like you said would work good, or maybe even better for you - keeping the carbs under 150g protein 250 and fat 75ish. if you want to go that way here is a link that can help you out:
http://michaelandkendra.com/BMRCALC/bmrcalc.htm

 

[SgtSlaughter]

CKD doesn't work for everyone (NOTHING will work for EVERYBODY)... keep trying out new ways of manipulating your diet.

Caliper testing can have a large range of error. Never go by numbers... how do your clothes fit? How do you look in the mirror? Take progress photos? ...ect. It's cheaper and a VERY good standard, and pretty dang accurate... as long as you don't use different clothing to judge, mirror, odd camera angles... same "poses" ect..

Michael and Kendra's Calculater is a great tool too as posted above

Experimentation is the name of the game. Don't give up

 

[jpt]

CKD doesn't work for everyone (NOTHING will work for EVERYBODY)... keep trying out new ways of manipulating your diet.

Caliper testing can have a large range of error. Never go by numbers... how do your clothes fit? How do you look in the mirror? Take progress photos? ...ect. It's cheaper and a VERY good standard, and pretty dang accurate... as long as you don't use different clothing to judge, mirror, odd camera angles... same "poses" ect..

Michael and Kendra's Calculater is a great tool too as posted above

Experimentation is the name of the game. Don't give up

i'm runnign one right now...working pretty well so far.

this is from ghede in a few posts down...maybe it will help you. also i would do 20g or less carbs and pop a gluc at every meal to ensure that your depleteing carbs

Once your body becomes accustomed to the flip into ketosis, it will happen faster, you can use some help too:

first, day before you decide to get into ketosis start cutting back your overall cals and make most of them that were fat into carb calories... your last meal, in the early evening should be pretty simple sugar heavy. it helps the body flip.

every hour for four to six hours after that last meal, pop a Glucorell-R (rALA) tab, you will not want to be out on the town for this, it might make you a feel a bit like poop after a while, so do it at home then hit the hay.

Next morning: do back and legs. kick the shit out of them. Your food the first 24-48 hours should have NO carbs, not 24 or 22: NONE. 60%+ of your cals have to come from fat, not less.

That afternoon do some savage HIIT cardio, for real, it will suck, but kill it.

You will more likely than not be in ketosis by the time you wake the next morning, about 30-36 hours, not 72.

You CAN drop into ketosis with the help of Insulin abuse, in as little as 4-6 hours, but if you are not familiar and extremely experienced with its use and dangers, do not even think of fucking around with it. it can, and has, killed folks.

 

[junosixx]

CKD doesn't work for everyone (NOTHING will work for EVERYBODY)... keep trying out new ways of manipulating your diet.

Caliper testing can have a large range of error. Never go by numbers... how do your clothes fit? How do you look in the mirror? Take progress photos? ...ect. It's cheaper and a VERY good standard, and pretty dang accurate... as long as you don't use different clothing to judge, mirror, odd camera angles... same "poses" ect..

Michael and Kendra's Calculater is a great tool too as posted above

Experimentation is the name of the game. Don't give up

you are totally right. they used an electric current test. they are notorious for not being all that accurate. he said it can vary about 3%. so i could be as low as 10% (my scale, which also has an electric current tester says 10%). so i'm not totally discouraged. i think i'm getting leaner, i'll have to take photos to know for sure.

thank you all for your ideas and encouragement.

 

[nikolai_bolkov]

also, 4 weeks is not enough time, give it 2 months before you assess progress

 

[looking to lean]

i couldnt do it. the reduced cal clean diet is as effective. not to mention ealthier. my cholesterol is way outta wack now.

 

[Ghede]

i couldnt do it. the reduced cal clean diet is as effective. not to mention ealthier. my cholesterol is way outta wack now.

CKD or TKDs will, if followed correctly, LOWER your cholesterol values, not raise them.

 

[looking to lean]

tell that to my lipid profile please....

 

[Ghede]

tell that to my lipid profile please....

Bro, i am suggesting that either:

A) you dropped the ball on the CKD

or

B) your lipid profiles had some 'help' from somthing other than your perfectly executed CKD






... do you have a genetic predisposition toward high chol. values in the first place?


You can PM me on this if you want, what kind of 'supplementation', an i mean specifics, please, are/were you on?


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