friend had great result on this cycle, but why? How it's too light !

[bigthrower]

Buddy went on,

Test E 500 per week 1-12

Proviron 25mgs ED week 1-12
Nolva 10mgs ED week 1-12

Dbol 30mgs ED week 1-6
Tbol 20mgs ED week 1-6
Winny 50mgs ED week 1-6

Tbol 80mgs ED week 7-8

Liv 52 ED week 1-8
Clomid 50mgs ED Weeks 13-16.

He weighted himself the day before the first day, and the day after PCT.

240-252lbs, he has been measured at 14% BF

Waist looks slimmer, legs and back the most improved, he said he felt fine and this was a safe sane effective cycle, that all these drugs together synergistically add up to more than the sum of their parts.

Is he lying? he trains hard, not madly, he eats well, not brilliant, went off drink for whole period, non smoker, 28, single, pretty normal guy, about 6'2".

It has got me thinking...........

 

[medical]

That is not a "light" cycle by any means............15 years ago that would have been considered a heavy cycle.

 

[matty420]

That is not a "light" cycle by any means............15 years ago that would have been considered a heavy cycle.

that cycle is pretty thick my man.. it's not light by any means

 

[MUSTANG_18]

That not light, thats considered avarage by todays standards. Tell him to get blood work done post cycle. Some good gains made.

M18

 

[wags8]

A lot of guys on here would call that light for a 240 lb guy. The part about not brilliant was true, though as most would say that was too many orals at the same time.

 

[Selene]

sometime more is not always better and someone who has not done many cycles will get great result with lower dose and less product stack then someone with many years experience.

cycle experience also will affect doseing, very good for your friend

 

[DJ_UFO]

That's not light at all. Actually that's a very good average cycle. Light today would be 500mg test enanthate + dbol.

 

[lartinos]

too much stress on the liver, I wouldn't touch that cycle. He could have just dropped the t-bol and ran EQ.

 

[tsuwr927]

why D-bol and T-bol at the same time?

 

[blut wump]

Ignoring the proviron, he was taking:
Test 500
Dbol 210
Tbol 140
Winny 350

Total 1200 = 1.2g of gear EW

I know what you mean, some guys seem to be able to grow while taking almost nothing.

 

[Triple J]

for the most part, orals are stronger (and with more sides) than injectables when compared on a mg. per mg. basis. so that cycle is not light at all considering the emphasis on oral usage.

 

[mm107]

Well, im only running 500mg Test/week. Now thats a light cycle.....And im growing like a mofo......

But i train hard(powerlifter), eat great(go to school for nutrition) and sleep ok.

 

[bigthrower]

thanks for the feedback peeps, i am wondering whether to follow this cycle?

 

[humble]

Ignoring the proviron, he was taking:
Test 500
Dbol 210
Tbol 140
Winny 350

Total 1200 = 1.2g of gear EW

I know what you mean, some guys seem to be able to grow while taking almost nothing.

lol

 

[bigthrower]

is that LOL because it really is a very light stack compared to what a Pro bodybuilder would take?
cheers

 

[blut wump]

no

 

[jagerbombme]

Ignoring the proviron, he was taking:
Test 500
Dbol 210
Tbol 140
Winny 350

Total 1200 = 1.2g of gear EW

I know what you mean, some guys seem to be able to grow while taking almost nothing.

tell me thats sarcasm, hehe. i don't like orals one bit. i did some var. would like to do tbols, but i don't want to fuck with my cholesterol, although i did just get bw back and it was good after my run with var. i must respond well and bounce back well.

 

[monopoly19]

Good god, that is not light. Light cycle 350 test, 20 mg dbol. That is at minimum a average cycle. Too many orals for me.

Monopoly

 

[Arabian]

too much stress on the liver, I wouldn't touch that cycle. He could have just dropped the t-bol and ran EQ.

Agreed..

 

[bigthrower]

cool, thanks, i will take all comments on board and plan my cycle, it will def have test, proviron, nolva, clomid, and some oral kickstarter and liv 52.

 

[Ulter]

Typical cycle, typical gains.

 

[bigthrower]

Typical cycle, typical gains.

Ok thanks