First real cycle

[Superstud197]

21 yo
215 lbs
14% bf
very clean diet with 4,300 cals a day and about 350g protein
8 years lifting experience with 365 bench 475 squat
Messed around with orals in the past and did a few superdrol cycles all with proper pct but now am moving on and already have pct lined up for after this next cycle!!!

I was planning on running test E for 8 weeks at 400mg per week with a 4 week dbol kickstart. But now I have enough deca for the cycle and am wondering if it would be okay to throw that in even though it's a first real cycle? cause I don't want to just toss it

And last question.... Do I need to store the test and deca in a fridge because I live with some roomates and don't want them to know what I'm doing and we share a fridge so currently all my stuff is in a bag at room temp... Will this ruin it?

 

[Flash421]

I would just run the test and dbol for a first cycle. I would bump up the test to 500 mg a week split 250mg two times a week and run it for 10 weeks and for the dbol I would do 30mg a day..take 10mg 3 times a day. week 1-4

Make sure you have an AI on hand I use forma stanzol from mrsupps.com needto10 is ur discount code
And make sure you have a proper pct.

And for your gear just keep it in a cool dry place and it will be fine.

 

[hollywoodfw]

Studies show Test E is dose dependent, so bump it to 600 mg for 12 weeks. Do a Google search for Testosterone dose-response relationships in healthy young men, that'll bring up the study. There is another study that shows Test E at a dose of 600 mg per week for 20 weeks without weight training showing a gain of around 20 lbs of LBM, something to think about if you have enough.

 

[Flash421]

Don't you think 20 weeks is a little long for a first time cycle?

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

Don't you think 20 weeks is a little long for a first time cycle?

Id say yes for a first time injector. Id go 14 max with the last 2 lower dosing to help the body start producing again.
If you have the deca, use it bro. Just saying your friends are gonna know if you shooting test and deca. lol
Wrap it in a napkin then a wash cloth and put that in a pillowcase in a dark closet and youll be good.
1-4 Dbol 40mg per day
1-12 Test of your choice 500 ml
1-10 Deca-Durabolin 250-400 pending on what your comfortable with
week 13 - test, Cut back the dose by a 1/3
week 14 - test, Cut back the week 13 dose by 1/3.
Week 15 - PCT
how id do my first time. I personally ran the deca and the test and that was enough without the dbol. Got good results and had no side effects. Good luck

 

[thelocal]

u could prolly get away wiht only 25-30mg of dbol

 

[jmat2407]

No don't store your gear in the fridge. Why do you say you don't want to toss the deca? You can just save it for a future cycle down the road it will still be good...

If you really want to run the deca tho go for it, personally hough considering your apparent limited knowledge I'd STRONGLY advice against it. If you do it anyways at least have some dostinex on hand.

Run your test 12 weeks at 400-600mg a week. If you would like kick start the cycle with four weeks of dbol (wet gains) or beastdrol (dry) at 30mg/day.

Do not taper down the dose. By the end of the cycle your gonna be shut down and cutting back the dose isn't going to make you any less shutdown. Begin your PCT around 2 weeks after your last injection in week 12.

To make an easier transition into PCT I'd suggest running hcg the last weeks up to the beginning of your pct. If your gonna run the deca as well then I'd run the hcg couple weeks mid cycle and then switch to hcgenerate the last few weeks before pct.

I suggest having an AI. My AI of choice is forma stanzol with some aromasin on hand in case I ever need for serious estrogen control. If your going to run the dbol or beast kickstart I highly suggest you pick up a liver support such as forged liver support, or even better N2guard.

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

Ive just been lucky then i guess bro... I dont feel a need to use all the a extra armidex n hcg. waste to me. Ive been fortunate with no sides on 2 deca and one tren cycle. just proper pct after, but only juice during. def get a list of supplements like milk thistle and hawthorne berry extract, ect.

 

[cuthroat]

Take J-mat and the Locals advice. All the other advice is crap sorry.

 

[Flash421]

^^^jmat gave the same advice I did^^