first cycle- would appreciate your comments

[judas1]

Hi all. First Cycle here. My goal- add clean muscle mass- and keep an athletic look, no goal to be huge.

My Supplier suggested:
1-9 test- prop,
1-8 primo
1-7 winstrol (tablets)

later PCT with Nolv+hcg

Stats 29 y.o. 5'11 171 around 12% bodyfat
recent photos attached
Thanks!

 

[GUARDIAN]

i like the combo. stick to 6 weeks on the winstrol.

what doses are u considering?

 

[daville]

how are you with injecting cause prop is pretty frequent. first cycle should be simple and basic. wither just test or maybe just one oral like tbol or var. i think you would be pleased with 6 weeks of var at 40mg a day. then for a second cycle throw in the prop with the var or prop var and win.

 

[judas1]

i like the combo. stick to 6 weeks on the winstrol.

what doses are u considering?

this is what he recomended:
300 TP a week (1-9)
400 Primobolan - methenolone - a week (1-7) (200 on week 8)
4 tablets of Winstrol Daily (he didn't mention how much mg per tablet) (for 7 weeks)

 

[judas1]

how are you with injecting cause testosterone propionate is pretty frequent. first cycle should be simple and basic. wither just test or maybe just one oral like Turanabol or Anavar - oxandrolone - . i think you would be pleased with 6 weeks of Anavar - oxandrolone - at 40mg a day. then for a second cycle throw in the testosterone propionate with the Anavar - oxandrolone - or testosterone propionate Anavar - oxandrolone - and win.

Thanks!
and I thought it's quite a simple cycle... are there reasons to worry bout frequent injections?

 

[big_daws]

Thanks!
and I thought it's quite a simple cycle... are there reasons to worry bout frequent injections?

just make sure you rotate injection sites. Left quad, right quad, left delt, right delt, left glut, right glut.

 

[GUESS]

Thanks!
and I thought it's quite a simple cycle... are there reasons to worry bout frequent injections?

Cycle looks good! Your winnie tabs are probably 25mgs so @ 4 a day yer gonna dry up pretty quick as long as diet is in check.

As for the injects....I guess you know u have to stick every day with Prop, for a first cycle that can get overwhelming for some but if you feel confident all the best Bro!! Just make sure to change up inject spots to eleviate scar tissue....injecting in that shit hurts.


GUESS

 

[GUARDIAN]

this is what he recomended:
300 TP a week (1-9) looks like 75mg eod
400 Primobolan - methenolone - a week (1-7) (200 on week 8) i would back it down to 300mg ew which is 3ml. no need to drop down to 200. keep it there for the duration
4 tablets of Winstrol Daily (he didn't mention how much mg per tablet) (for 7 weeks) not sure the dosage of those pills either but keep it at 50mg ed for 6 weeks.

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[judas1]

Cycle looks good! Your winnie tabs are probably 25mgs so @ 4 a day yer gonna dry up pretty quick as long as diet is in check.

As for the injects....I guess you know u have to stick every day with testosterone propionate, for a first cycle that can get overwhelming for some but if you feel confident all the best Bro!! Just make sure to change up inject spots to eleviate scar tissue....injecting in that shit hurts.


GUESS

the plan is to inject the test-prop 3 times a week (Sun, Tue, Thu), and the primo twice a week (Sun & Thu). Will it be possible to inject only in the Glut (left, right, left etc.) or should I change muscle each time?

BTW I really appreciate your help guys... not many people in my area who understand and can give adive about all this. Glad to have found this forum!

 

[GUESS]

the plan is to inject the test-prop 3 times a week (Sun, Tue, Thu), and the primo twice a week (Sun & Thu). Will it be possible to inject only in the Glut (left, right, left etc.) or should I change muscle each time?

BTW I really appreciate your help guys... not many people in my area who understand and can give adive about all this. Glad to have found this forum!

Well Bro, where you stick is up to you changing it up is a good idea, it just keeps the pain down and allows you to experience and getting acustomed to sticking in not so easy places.

Other than that Bro yer cycle and approach looks solid so no worries man hit it up and let us know how things go.....also any problems just chime in and we'll help ya out.


GUESS

 

[judas1]

Originally Posted by judas1
this is what he recomended:
300 TP a week (1-9) looks like 75mg eod
400 Primobolan - methenolone - a week (1-7) (200 on week 8) i would back it down to 300mg ew which is 3ml. no need to drop down to 200. keep it there for the duration
4 tablets of Winstrol Daily (he didn't mention how much mg per tablet) (for 7 weeks) not sure the dosage of those pills either but keep it at 50mg ed for 6 weeks.

Thanks for the advise! I have no problem lowering the amounts if needed. I have read bout the toxicity of the oral ones (like winstrol) so better be safe.

Well Bro, where you stick is up to you changing it up is a good idea, it just keeps the pain down and allows you to experience and getting acustomed to sticking in not so easy places.

Other than that Bro yer cycle and approach looks solid so no worries man hit it up and let us know how things go.....also any problems just chime in and we'll help ya ou

I have boomarked this page- will surely vist here again to post updates and questions.
Thanks!!

 

[Nelson Montana]

I'd drop the winny and do a simple 6 week cycle. Why not see what the test and primo do? No sense complicating it. Besides, 50 mgs of an oral for that long is not healthy. You should not need Nolva with that cycle with or without the winny. Read the PCT for a New Generation sticky.

 

[MichaelScott]

Thanks!
and I thought it's quite a simple cycle... are there reasons to worry bout frequent injections?

prop hurts more than say test e which is a 2x week inject as opposed to 3 or more for prop, im on 3rd cycle now 1st with prop and the first shot was a cocksucker, id stick with e if i was you

 

[GUARDIAN]

prop hurts more than say test e which is a 2x week inject as opposed to 3 or more for prop, im on 3rd cycle now 1st with prop and the first shot was a cocksucker, id stick with e if i was you

primo is no day at the beach when it comes to pain either!

 

[MichaelScott]

primo is no day at the beach when it comes to pain either!

running npp with it so 2cc in delt oh my

 

[xrsist]

imo one compound is enough for a first cycle
test for 8-10 weeks with a solid diet, hard training and clomid for pct will see you grow nicely

 

[njmuscleguy]

Here's my 2 cents, similar to what most of the guys here are saying...

The beauty of using prop is that it's faster-acting so that an oral isn't needed to "kickstart" the cycle. So a prop and primo cycle would be fine, provided you don't mind the ED or EOD injects.

Otherwise, consider test enanthate or cypionate, this way you run both the test and primo at twice a week...fewer injects, less hassle and less potential pain. In this case, run the cycle for about 8 weeks.

 

[judas1]

I'd drop the Winstrol - stanozolol and do a simple 6 week cycle. Why not see what the test and Primobolan - methenolone - do? No sense complicating it. Besides, 50 mgs of an oral for that long is not healthy. You should not need Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - with that cycle with or without the Winstrol - stanozolol. Read the PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - for a New Generation sticky.

Thanks i will consider your suggestions.

testosterone propionate hurts more than say testosterone enanthate which is a 2x week inject as opposed to 3 or more for testosterone propionate, im on 3rd cycle now 1st with testosterone propionate and the first shot was a cocksucker, id stick with e if i was you

I see. I will stick to the test-testosterone propionate anycase but thanks for the info

imo one compound is enough for a first cycle
test for 8-10 weeks with a solid diet, hard training and clomid for PCT - post cycle therapy - will see you grow nicely

Here's my 2 cents, similar to what most of the guys here are saying...

The beauty of using testosterone propionate is that it's faster-acting so that an oral isn't needed to "kickstart" the cycle. So a testosterone propionate and Primobolan - methenolone - cycle would be fine, provided you don't mind the ED or EOD injects.

Otherwise, consider test enanthate or cypionate, this way you run both the test and Primobolan - methenolone - at twice a week...fewer injects, less hassle and less potential pain. In this case, run the cycle for about 8 weeks.

I think the EOD injects wont be a problem (i hope...). appreciate your views and will consider dropping the orals. Thanks!

 

[needtogetaas]

winny can really fuck up our ldl and hdl. So watch out for that.