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First cycle - trenabol and test

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Well I finally found some gear :) time to see what the juice can do.. I was planning on a 5x5 plan to gain some serious mass.. How much time should I allow for recovery between workouts? I normally wait 6-8 days per muscle group but will tht change on tren/test?
 
Of course your recovery time will be shorter... try to hit each muscle group twice a week with heavy combination exercises...

What is your cycle plan n pct?
 
Of course your recovery time will be shorter... try to hit each muscle group twice a week with heavy combination exercises...

What is your cycle plan n pct?

Haven't thought about it much.. That's 12 weeks away lol.. Actually I have no idea just know imma need some serious test boosters
 
Well I finally found some gear :) time to see what the juice can do.. I was planning on a 5x5 plan to gain some serious mass.. How much time should I allow for recovery between workouts? I normally wait 6-8 days per muscle group but will tht change on tren/test?

Plan to succeed or plan to fail

Everything must be on hand in case you develop sides etc. What are you stats and how is your diet looking? Gotta eat big baby !!
 
I think the expression goes "failing to plan is planning to fail."

Which in this case is what you are doing OP.
 
Have you already started your cycle mate?

I would suggest holding off a while and do some more research... there is plenty of info on the net and help offered on this forum...

Take a look at firstly what effect these two substances are going to have on you. Then search for info on pre-loading, cycle support for the specific side effect, and make sure you have a solid pct on hand n ready to go...

Gotta be smart when taking any substance ;)
 
you need to run test only if you get sides running more compounds you won't know which one is causing it, gotta walk before you run, you'll mess that cycle guessing which one so basically you're shooting in the dark, start with one ,see how the body handles it ,then nextcycle add another, you will be educated on how hormones affect the body.
 
you need to run test only if you get sides running more compounds you won't know which one is causing it, gotta walk before you run, you'll mess that cycle guessing which one so basically you're shooting in the dark, start with one ,see how the body handles it ,then nextcycle add another, you will be educated on how hormones affect the body.

Totally agree with Radar...
 
Plan to succeed or plan to fail

Everything must be on hand in case you develop sides etc. What are you stats and how is your diet looking? Gotta eat big baby !!

I'm 190, 6 foot, 16% bf and in the morning I have 5 eggs 2 pieces of 12 grain toast, ill have a cliff bar or something around 11, lunch is usually 12oz chicken, half a bell pepper, and a bagel with cream cheese, first dinner around 4, usually a big ass plate of spaghetti, then I workout, come home and eat som kind of fish and carbs.. Shit varies but I make sure to get 4000+ calories a day
 
Have you already started your cycle mate?

I would suggest holding off a while and do some more research... there is plenty of info on the net and help offered on this forum...

Take a look at firstly what effect these two substances are going to have on you. Then search for info on pre-loading, cycle support for the specific side effect, and make sure you have a solid pct on hand n ready to go...

Gotta be smart when taking any substance ;)

Na I'm starting Monday.. And I've done shit tons of research mayne, that's why I went with tren cause it don't aramotize, and I'm stacking test on it cause I don't want a limp noodle ;) and I've taken "beast test booster" so I have a pretty good idea of what ill be dealing with there.. Obviously strait test is different than a booster but I'm starting at such a small dose if both ill be fine, and I'm doin my whole cycle with a pro, he's my workout partner lol
 
Na I'm starting Monday.. And I've done shit tons of research mayne, that's why I went with tren cause it don't aramotize, and I'm stacking test on it cause I don't want a limp noodle ;) and I've taken "beast test booster" so I have a pretty good idea of what ill be dealing with there.. Obviously strait test is different than a booster but I'm starting at such a small dose if both ill be fine, and I'm doin my whole cycle with a pro, he's my workout partner lol

..and he said he's got my pct planned I just haven't talked to him a lot about It yet
 
Do you have prami or caber? You can do tren only without dick problems man. I would still suggest test only. You wont gain that much more for a first cycle with adding tren.

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Disaster waiting to happen...big plate of pasta? Keep it simple for your 1st cycle and drop the tren.

~EZ
 
This is a disaster waiting to happen. "Not worried about PCT that's 12 weeks away!!!!!"

Edit: Haha, didn't even see the post above me. But so true.
 
This is a disaster waiting to happen. "Not worried about PCT that's 12 weeks away!!!!!"

Edit: Haha, didn't even see the post above me. But so true.

Na my boys got me covered for the pct and I didn't say I'm not worried, I said I hadn't thought about it much.. I'm talkin to him about it now
 
You're eating a bagel and pasta EVERY DAY and you don't know what's wrong with that?

A) white flour
B) meat sauce LOADED with salt and sugar

Diet is all over the place...

"Time to see what gear can do?" gear doesn't do a thing if it's used haphazzardly

~EZ
 
What's wrong with pasta and meat sauce?? Complex carbs and protein mayne lol

Oh please...he didn't just say "mayne", a bagel has like 65 grams of white flour carbs per bagel...horrible choice and will only end up staying with you unless you are burning a good portion aerobically...but to build muscle there are much better choices than flour riddened carb sources...yams, brown rice, Quinua, beans, oats, Ezekiel breads, whole grains...be careful how some consider whole grains...I think you get the picture...go check out the diet & nutrition forum a bit...just looking out for ya...mayne!!! ;)

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Oh please...he didn't just say "mayne", a bagel has like 65 grams of white flour carbs per bagel...horrible choice and will only end up staying with you unless you are burning a good portion aerobically...but to build muscle there are much better choices than flour riddened carb sources...yams, brown rice, Quinua, beans, oats, Ezekiel breads, whole grains...be careful how some consider whole grains...I think you get the picture...go check out the diet & nutrition forum a bit...just looking out for ya...mayne!!! ;)

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I still have a pretty good diet, and try to stick to organics and whole wheat products but I ain't rich and all that shits expensive.. Is it really that bad to have white flour products? I've heard a lot of controversy when it comes to whole wheat as well..
 
You're eating a bagel and pasta EVERY DAY and you don't know what's wrong with that?

A) white flour
B) meat sauce LOADED with salt and sugar

Diet is all over the place...

"Time to see what gear can do?" gear doesn't do a thing if it's used haphazzardly

~EZ

An I have half a bagel everyday with my chicken and bell pepper.. Couldn't think of another carb that would go good with that meal.. What about potatoes?? Loaded with starch that shits no bueno correct?
 
An I have half a bagel everyday with my chicken and bell pepper.. Couldn't think of another carb that would go good with that meal.. What about potatoes?? Loaded with starch that shits no bueno correct?

Yams are anywhere from $1-$1.50 a lb., seriously buy 4-5 large yams and dice them into 1/2 cubes, bake them @ 400 degrees in the oven on a cookie sheet for 30 min or so, put them in tupperware and stick in the fridge...pull out 6-8 oz. per meal and those would go great with chicken & bell pepper, and much more nutrients and vitamins than a bagel. I was just saying there are better choices than processed food choices, which is what bagels are...yams, potatoes, oats, and the other ones I mentioned come from the ground...the earth bro! If cost is a problem then do you have Farmers Markets in your area? When there is a will...there is a way!

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Yeah but just go get yourself a bunch of cans of kidney beans good carbs and the highest protein. You can get from a carb source and only like 75 cents a can and that's two good sevings.that pasta and bagel should be saved for ur cheat day if anything.

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Yeah but just go get yourself a bunch of cans of kidney beans good carbs and the highest protein. You can get from a carb source and only like 75 cents a can and that's two good sevings.that pasta and bagel should be saved for ur cheat day if anything.

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What about whole grain pasta??
 
2 observations:

You're diet is NOT "pretty good"

If $ is an issue the is NO WAY anyone should be running a cycle

Now, the good news: EF has one of the best diet forums on the board

~EZ
 
2 observations:

You're diet is NOT "pretty good"

If $ is an issue the is NO WAY anyone should be running a cycle

Now, the good news: EF has one of the best diet forums on the board

~EZ

$$s not a huge problem in just short on cash cause I had to spot both my roommates for rent this month AFTER I bought my gear.. If I need to I can take it out if my etrade account but its not a good time to sell anything lol.. Does food derived from white flower hurt muscle growth or just not help it?? I'm getting 300+ grams of protein everyday and about 200g of carbs + maybe 75g of fat.. Mostly from ovacados I don't see how that's bad my friend
 
What about whole grain pasta??

This is how you do it


You need at least 6-7 smaller servings per day with some protein in each., You can do this by eating clean whole foods,not processed.
Protein should come a variety of things.Seafood is one of the best sources of Protein because it's usually low in fat. Fish such as salmon is a little higher in fat but it is the heart-healthy kind: omega-3 fatty acids.

White-Meat Poultry
Stick to the white meat of poultry for excellent, lean Protein. Dark meat is higher in fat. The skin is loaded with saturated fat, so remove skin before cooking.

Milk, Cheese, and Yogurt
Not only are dairy foods -- like milk, cheese, and yogurt -- excellent sources of Protein but they also contain valuable calcium. Choose skim or low fat dairy to keep bones and teeth strong, prevent osteoporosis, and enhance weight loss.

Eggs
Eggs are one of the least expensive forms of Protein. The American Heart Association says normal healthy adults can safely enjoy an egg a day.

Beans
One-half cup of beans contains as much Protein as three ounces of broiled steak. Plus, these nutritious nuggets are loaded with fiber to keep you feeling full for hours.

Pork Tenderloin
This great and versatile white meat is 31% leaner than 20 years ago.

Soy
Twenty five grams of soy Protein daily can help lower cholesterol and reduce the risk of heart disease. Combine soy Protein foods like tofu with a healthy low fat diet.

Lean Beef
Lean beef has only one more gram of saturated fat than a skinless chicken breast. Lean beef is also an excellent source of zinc, iron, and vitamin b12.

Protein on the Go
Grab a meal replacement drink, cereal bar, or energy bar. Check the label to be sure the product contains at least six grams of Protein, and is low in sugar and fat.
Needtobuildmuscle has a wide variety of supplements that is an excellent source of nutrition.

Unstanding how to eat,The best way to provide the diet with complex carbohydrates is to consume foods in their most natural state such as oatmeal, bran and brown rice.
Bran

Wheatgerm

Barley

Maize

Buckwheat

Cornmeal

Oatmeal



The food list below shows good sources of complex carbohydrates.


Pasta

Macaroni
Spaghetti
Brown rice

Potatoes

Other root vegetables
Wholemeal breads

Granary bread

Brown bread

Pitta bread



Wholegrain cereals

High fiber breakfast cereals

Porridge oats

All bran

Wheetabix

Shredded wheat

Ryvita crispbread

Muesli

Cassava

Corn
Yam

Oatcakes

Peas

Beans

Lentils

For energy you also need simple carbs thruout the day
Apples

Blackberries

Blackcurrants

Cherry

Cranberries

Grapefruit

Kiwi

Lemon

Melon

Oranges

Peach

Pear

Plum

Raspberries

Strawberries

Grapes

Raisins


Serving size should be no larger than a tennis ball




RADAR
 
This is how you do it


You need at least 6-7 smaller servings per day with some protein in each., You can do this by eating clean whole foods,not processed.
Protein should come a variety of things.Seafood is one of the best sources of Protein because it's usually low in fat. Fish such as salmon is a little higher in fat but it is the heart-healthy kind: omega-3 fatty acids.

White-Meat Poultry
Stick to the white meat of poultry for excellent, lean Protein. Dark meat is higher in fat. The skin is loaded with saturated fat, so remove skin before cooking.

Milk, Cheese, and Yogurt
Not only are dairy foods -- like milk, cheese, and yogurt -- excellent sources of Protein but they also contain valuable calcium. Choose skim or low fat dairy to keep bones and teeth strong, prevent osteoporosis, and enhance weight loss.

Eggs
Eggs are one of the least expensive forms of Protein. The American Heart Association says normal healthy adults can safely enjoy an egg a day.

Beans
One-half cup of beans contains as much Protein as three ounces of broiled steak. Plus, these nutritious nuggets are loaded with fiber to keep you feeling full for hours.

Pork Tenderloin
This great and versatile white meat is 31% leaner than 20 years ago.

Soy
Twenty five grams of soy Protein daily can help lower cholesterol and reduce the risk of heart disease. Combine soy Protein foods like tofu with a healthy low fat diet.

Lean Beef
Lean beef has only one more gram of saturated fat than a skinless chicken breast. Lean beef is also an excellent source of zinc, iron, and vitamin b12.

Protein on the Go
Grab a meal replacement drink, cereal bar, or energy bar. Check the label to be sure the product contains at least six grams of Protein, and is low in sugar and fat.
Needtobuildmuscle has a wide variety of supplements that is an excellent source of nutrition.

Unstanding how to eat,The best way to provide the diet with complex carbohydrates is to consume foods in their most natural state such as oatmeal, bran and brown rice.
Bran

Wheatgerm

Barley

Maize

Buckwheat

Cornmeal

Oatmeal



The food list below shows good sources of complex carbohydrates.


Pasta

Macaroni
Spaghetti
Brown rice

Potatoes

Other root vegetables
Wholemeal breads

Granary bread

Brown bread

Pitta bread

Bagel

Wholegrain cereals

High fiber breakfast cereals

Porridge oats

All bran

Wheetabix

Shredded wheat

Ryvita crispbread

Muesli

Cassava

Corn
Yam

Oatcakes

Peas

Beans

Lentils

For energy you also need simple carbs thruout the day
Apples

Blackberries

Blackcurrants

Cherry

Cranberries

Grapefruit

Kiwi

Lemon

Melon

Oranges

Peach

Pear

Plum

Raspberries

Strawberries

Grapes

Raisins


Serving size should be no larger than a tennis ball




RADAR

Perfect this post is my new bible! Thanks!
 
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