First Cycle Advice Please

[jerome simpson]

I question your lifting knowledge when you say "all weights listed are without the barbell" and list that you do 30 dips with 180 lbs.

I think you are going to find you aren't the bb guru you think you are pretty quickly.

 

[Jack steel]

Not trying to sound cocky or like a "know it all" but I've read about plenty of guys that have done a test e only cycle when cutting. They've said they oat bf and leaned out. The test helped gain strength and muscle during a cutting diet without losing results.

You can dude, but that completely depends on your diet.

 

[Jack steel]

Honestly pointless to run a test cycle to cut down from 15%. Grab an ECA stack or some S4 (or both) for that purpose. Running test won't make you lose fat, it will only help you retain/gain muscle mass while doing it.

Also, Forma probably won't be a strong enough AI. It's a great PCT tool but aromasin would be much more beneficial on cycle. N2guard isn't really necessary for a test only cycle, it doesn't hit you liver hard and your blood pressure shouldn't increase too much. N2guard is better used when you run orals or really strong injectables like tren.

I agree man. If you just want to cut and retain muscle mass then go with a sarm. No reason to have to deal with estrogen and the other things from test just for a cut in my opinion. Sarms are much more geared for your goals. I prefer sarmssearch for my sarms but EF has a lot of great sponsors.

 

[Jonlb21]

Yea Thanks for the advice but I'm probably going to pass on the Sarms. I've done lots of research on them and some people do see results but I'll all set with the side effects. Sarms actually change your DNA coding and cause blindness. Not to mention the prices for them are insane. I have a 10-12 week dose of test e on hand and am trying to work out a solutions using something I already have. So I dont know if there is anything I can stack the test e with to help me cut. To answer Dylangemlli at 15% bf I do eat clean. (15% was a rough estimate I don't have that much fat on me I would rather estimate up then down and not put on bloating weight.) Its the begging of my cut cycle really. It got set back 2 weeks because of a shoulder injury but I eat very clean. I was thinking of trying the starter stack on Mr. Supps which comes with Helladrol, Forged Liver Support, Forged Post Cycle, Forma Stanzol and stacking it with Katanadrol v3 (for cutting) but like I've said I have test e on hand and I've read posts about people on Helladrol/Katanadrol v3 stack and they said it was good but to try and test e was better. So if anyone can help with a test e stack that could help shred bf that isn't going to destroy my joints like winny please let me know.

 

[Idobehigh]

Post a picture man then we can tell you your body fat if you are unsure


Not to mention you haven't told us your age witch plays a big role in things..

 

[Jonlb21]

I'm 26. I've read that sarms cause blindness and you cant drive at night. Plus they are really expensive. I have a 10 week cycle of test e on hand so spending $300-$500 on Sarms with sides doesnt sound that appealing. But like I said I'm new to this. I've spent hundreds on OTC supps that haven't worked. Does anyone have a take on the helladrol/katana v3 stack ? Also are you goes telling me to just save my supply of test e ? Does it have a shelf life and how long ?

 

[EZ_E]

Dude, did you read ANY of the posts? You are not in a position to juice.

~EZ

 

[Jonlb21]

So everyone thinks I should do 8 weeks of S4 at 50mg a day split twice a day ? If does anyone know a cheap place to get it besides uniqeimcals ? They have s4 for$20 for 50mg which means 50mg every day for a 8 week cycle would be $1,120.. and thats without MK or GW call me crazy but that's alot of $$$$$$$$. I have already spent money on my 10-12 supply of test e. I thought if I cut my diet I would get shredded and lean out. I'm only week 2 into cutting. Just trying to get everyone's opinion.

 

[Idobehigh]

I think your math is wrong on the s4 bro that's Dylan's specialty so I'm sure he will chime in, personally I wouldn't run anything, sarms included but if you wanted to run something to aid fat loss sarms would be your best bet. There is nothing in this world that will make your skinny. It all comes to diet and training, that's what everyone is trying to tell you sure you can run a test cycle but if your diet isn't check then it would do no good. 2 weeks on a diet is not a lot of time either bro, post up a day of eating included your calories, protein, carbs, and fat and we can help you there also.

 

[dylangemelli]

So everyone thinks I should do 8 weeks of S4 at 50mg a day split twice a day ? If does anyone know a cheap place to get it besides uniqeimcals ? They have s4 for$20 for 50mg which means 50mg every day for a 8 week cycle would be $1,120.. and thats without MK or GW call me crazy but that's alot of $$$$$$$$. I have already spent money on my 10-12 supply of test e. I thought if I cut my diet I would get shredded and lean out. I'm only week 2 into cutting. Just trying to get everyone's opinion.

Thats 50 mg/ ml!! Theres 30 ml in a bottle bro... Its TWO s4 not 60!