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[xrsist]

what do you go by for calories per pound of body weight per day i heard 20 per lb, also during a cycle my apetite increases dramatically, i appreciate your feedback when i was younger i would jus take the shit eat whatever and workout, this time i wanna do it right thats whay im on here

use this to calculate how many calories your body requires

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/help-sort-out-your-diet-565562.html

great thread

 

[htownspecialk]

use this to calculate how many calories your body requires

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/help-sort-out-your-diet-565562.html

great thread

thanks for the feedback good shit man

 

[jumpmaster82]

I wouldn't reccomend calculating cals by body weight. If your on cycle and trying to build muscle eat no less than 5000 cals ED. It sounds like alot and hard to do, but its really not. Its easy to get those cals you need when you break down your diet and map it out. When I was young I took aas and just ate whatever I felt like, I disregarded all the vets saying that diet is more important to building muscle than any other factor. But when I started eating alot more and eating the right things my gains went through the fucking roof. It really is more important than anything, even more important than what aas you use. And what's your protein intake look like? If your only consuming 2300 cals then I'm almost scared to see what your protein intake is. But tell me so I can help.

 

[xrsist]

I wouldn't reccomend calculating cals by body weight. If your on cycle and trying to build muscle eat no less than 5000 cals ED. It sounds like alot and hard to do, but its really not. Its easy to get those cals you need when you break down your diet and map it out. When I was young I took anabolic androgenic steroids and just ate whatever I felt like, I disregarded all the vets saying that diet is more important to building muscle than any other factor. But when I started eating alot more and eating the right things my gains went through the fucking roof. It really is more important than anything, even more important than what anabolic androgenic steroids you use. And what's your protein intake look like? If your only consuming 2300 cals then I'm almost scared to see what your protein intake is. But tell me so I can help.

if your body only requires 4000 cals to bulk and you take in 5000 cals it doesnt mean you will grow more it generally means you will put on more fat

 

[htownspecialk]

I wouldn't reccomend calculating cals by body weight. If your on cycle and trying to build muscle eat no less than 5000 cals ED. It sounds like alot and hard to do, but its really not. Its easy to get those cals you need when you break down your diet and map it out. When I was young I took anabolic androgenic steroids and just ate whatever I felt like, I disregarded all the vets saying that diet is more important to building muscle than any other factor. But when I started eating alot more and eating the right things my gains went through the fucking roof. It really is more important than anything, even more important than what anabolic androgenic steroids you use. And what's your protein intake look like? If your only consuming 2300 cals then I'm almost scared to see what your protein intake is. But tell me so I can help.

the problem is my cal intake was a guesstamation if you will the only thing i have payed attention to is my protein intake and that is at least 150 grams a day 1 shake 2 bars and then my food diet this may not seem like much but im only working with a buck 45 right now im tryin to get to 165 i used to kickbox competively at 155 and that was a good strong weight for me but now i want to get bigger and stronger. Your emphasis has really made me realize its time to get serious and apply myself to monitoring and increasin my intake. Like i said i want to do it right this time and for now on.

 

[htownspecialk]

if your body only requires 4000 cals to bulk and you take in 5000 cals it doesnt mean you will grow more it generally means you will put on more fat[/QUOTE
im lookin for lean strong mass, i mean obviously mass is my main objective im small as hell right now but i still wanna be shredded, ill use that calculation chart after work tonight and see what i come up with appreciate you

 

[jumpmaster82]

if you weigh 145 the MINIMUM protein you should be taking is double that. The general rule is 2x your body weight. But that's when your training hard even if not on aas. But when on your body will synthesize alot more protein. Some say still stick to 2x, but my trainer(who was a runner up for mr. O some years back) and many other serious BBers say 3 or 4x your body weight. I agree. take in NO less than 3x when on cycle 4x if you can. That's more important than even what aas you take

 

[ALIN]

i am definately a hardgainer, i have trained off and on for about 6 yrs but was unable to focus my training in the direction i wanted consistently because i was in the marine infantry. I am 25 yrs old and puny right now, i began getting my diet into check about a month ago but my diet never really mattered as much as gym time with my metabolism. The last cycle i did was about 2 yrs ago and i stacked trenbolone anadrol testosterone enanthate. I had significant strength and mass gains but i do not have the same results as the last stack in mind for this one to much water retension im not looking for the smooth look. I am currently 5'8 145 with very little body fat although i just lost my 6 pack for the first time in my life which as small as me is sad. I am about to begin a new cycle and my goals are significant lean mass gains but leaning more to as much mass as possible and still very cut. This is what im considering right now: stacking Finaplix - trenbolone acetate - sus and Winstrol - stanozolol i would appreciate your feedback and please no steroid lectures im going to do it reguardless so just feedback and suggestions on the stack and maybe dosages. thanks

Thats a great combination especially for cutting. do you have an idea doage plan laid out?

 

[xrsist]

if you weigh 145 the MINIMUM protein you should be taking is double that. The general rule is 2x your body weight. But that's when your training hard even if not on anabolic androgenic steroids. But when on your body will synthesize alot more protein. Some say still stick to 2x, but my trainer(who was a runner up for mr. O some years back) and many other serious BBers say 3 or 4x your body weight. I agree. take in NO less than 3x when on cycle 4x if you can. That's more important than even what anabolic androgenic steroids you take

so your saying if one were to weigh 220, he would have to consume 660- 880grams of protein a day on cycle? that is just a waste imo

 

[10001110101]

dude i think 5k cals for 145 pounds is excessive... dude you put down 3250 cals ed you will grow. not fast, and yeah its hard trust me i know. get 150-200g protein, more is better but if you can't get more protein than that dont' stress.

also you are dead set on doing a cycle i see, that's cool, do what you want, but i'd keep it simple and focus more on diet like eveyrone says.

how bout a compromise between what you want and what people are advising you to do.

do a straight test cycle 500/wk for 8-10 wks and really focus on diet... see how much of a difference it makes. it so does. honestly you realize gear isn't magic after you get some experience with them and you realize that they are very much diet dependent. at the end of the day its about the diet and training and everything you do in between your injections that determines the outcome of your cycle.

plus it'll help you keep the pounds on when your cycle is over, which is just as important otherwise you get caught in this yo-yo cycle and you never really change, in fact you end up falling short of your natural potential because you have to know how to gain/maintain in the "off season" as well.

also extend yoru p.c.t to 3-4 weeks and you can lower your clomid dosage, start at maybe 100mgs ed for a week and 50 for the remainder.

food is the most expensive part of any cycle imo.