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Congrats, you support hate and bigotry...strong work

OMG, STFU

Eating at Chick-fil-a says nothing more than they make good chicken sandwiches.

That whole thiing got blown so far out of proportion it's not even funny.

All the dude says was that he supports traditional marriage. Mitt Romney said that and nobody freaked out, and Obama in the 2008 election period said that as well and he was elected our president. HE changed his stance to try to be more popular. I guarantee that Barack is totally grossed out by homosexuals just like 98% of other straight men.

Anybody that thinks that because the guy supports traditional marriage automatically means he is a hater and a bigot are way off the path of logic and reason. I'm sure chick-fil-a has hired hundreds if not thousands of gay employees over the past decade.
 
OMG, STFU

Eating at Chick-fil-a says nothing more than they make good chicken sandwiches.

That whole thiing got blown so far out of proportion it's not even funny.

All the dude says was that he supports traditional marriage. Mitt Romney said that and nobody freaked out, and Obama in the 2008 election period said that as well and he was elected our president. HE changed his stance to try to be more popular. I guarantee that Barack is totally grossed out by homosexuals just like 98% of other straight men.

Anybody that thinks that because the guy supports traditional marriage automatically means he is a hater and a bigot are way off the path of logic and reason. I'm sure chick-fil-a has hired hundreds if not thousands of gay employees over the past decade.

They hire gays bc they HAVE to, they would be slapped with a million dollar lawsuit quicker than you can get rid of your bitch tits.

Like many of my friends, I’ve known for quite some time about the fact that Chick-Fil-A donates millions of dollars of their profits to organizations such as Family Research Council, Exodus International, Focus on the Family, etc. The names of these groups sound harmless enough, but they are anything but. These are groups that not only actively try to prohibit gay marriage; they help fund groups that want to make it legal to be fired from your job for being gay, groups that want to deport gay citizens out of the country and groups that support legislature intended to legalize the execution of gay people. Harmless, indeed.
 
They hire gays bc they HAVE to, they would be slapped with a million dollar lawsuit quicker than you can get rid of your bitch tits.

Like many of my friends, I’ve known for quite some time about the fact that Chick-Fil-A donates millions of dollars of their profits to organizations such as Family Research Council, Exodus International, Focus on the Family, etc. The names of these groups sound harmless enough, but they are anything but. These are groups that not only actively try to prohibit gay marriage; they help fund groups that want to make it legal to be fired from your job for being gay, groups that want to deport gay citizens out of the country and groups that support legislature intended to legalize the execution of gay people. Harmless, indeed.

I just wanted sum chicken

now I feel like a worthless piece of shit :(
 
Its a goddamn sandwich place. Eat your meal and STFU. The president of the company is allowed to exercise his freedom of speech. It doesn't make him a bigot if that's his religious beliefs. Liberals are ok with freedom of speech until it goes against what they want.

I personally am all for gay marriage but I could care less about the companies stance. It's not like they beat a gay person with every combo meal you order.

A meal can be a meal, not everything needs to be a political statement.

Only in America can our priorities be so warped that this is what we care about. 140 people were killed in Syria today fighting for freedom and there's been 2 major shootings in the US in under a month. This is what we bitch about?
 
Its a goddamn sandwich place. Eat your meal and STFU. The president of the company is allowed to exercise his freedom of speech. It doesn't make him a bigot if that's his religious beliefs. Liberals are ok with freedom of speech until it goes against what they want.

I personally am all for gay marriage but I could care less about the companies stance. It's not like they beat a gay person with every combo meal you order.

A meal can be a meal, not everything needs to be a political statement.

Only in America can our priorities be so warped that this is what we care about. 140 people were killed in Syria today fighting for freedom and there's been 2 major shootings in the US in under a month. This is what we bitch about?

Stfu faggot
 
Who the fuck cares about Syrians?

People are people. They don't chose the country they're born into. I've been to Iraq and Afghanistan, they're no different than anyone else

Edit: except for the ones that tried to blow me up, they sucked
 
The freedom of speech issue is a straw man. No one said the CEO couldn't say what he said.
The first ammendment says you have freedom of speech. It doesn't say there will be no consequences to your speech.

Religous zealots want to spew their shit, but they're gonna get blow back for it. That makes sense doesn't it?
The anti-gay agenda is retarded. The issue is being worked out in the court of public opinion. Its all about freedom of speech.

Liberals are ok with freedom of speech until it goes against what they want.

So who's against freedom of speech?

The chicken dude desrves to get criticized for what he does as well, not just what he says. He can support anti-gay initiatives, but he's going to get heat from it. That's American as apple pie.
 
The freedom of speech issue is a straw man. No one said the CEO couldn't say what he said.
The first ammendment says you have freedom of speech. It doesn't say there will be no consequences to your speech.

Religous zealots want to spew their shit, but they're gonna get blow back for it. That makes sense doesn't it?
The anti-gay agenda is retarded. The issue is being worked out in the court of public opinion. Its all about freedom of speech.



So who's against freedom of speech?

The chicken dude desrves to get criticized for what he does as well, not just what he says. He can support anti-gay initiatives, but he's going to get heat from it. That's American as apple pie.

Well in Boston our mayor wrote a letter against that kinda made no sense.

The anti-gay agenda is absurd, I agree. But religious people will be religious we should still respect that. Live and let live, people are so concerned with others lives
 
They hire gays bc they HAVE to, they would be slapped with a million dollar lawsuit quicker than you can get rid of your bitch tits.

Like many of my friends, I’ve known for quite some time about the fact that Chick-Fil-A donates millions of dollars of their profits to organizations such as Family Research Council, Exodus International, Focus on the Family, etc. The names of these groups sound harmless enough, but they are anything but. These are groups that not only actively try to prohibit gay marriage; they help fund groups that want to make it legal to be fired from your job for being gay, groups that want to deport gay citizens out of the country and groups that support legislature intended to legalize the execution of gay people. Harmless, indeed.

The point is, the guy didn't come and say that he hates gay people when this whole thing exploded, but that's how it was taken ou to fproportion.

The one problem I have with the gay people is this very thing.

If you don't agree with their viewpoint and they automatically label you a bigot, a hater and a horrible person when that is a completely unjust conclusion to arrive at.

This whole thing hits home a second time for me. I'm mormon, and our church was attacked viciously after Prop 8 passed, even our ward houses and temples were vandalized. Every mormon was automatically labeled a gay-hating bigot and they started saying that the mormon church teaches you to hate gay people. On the contrary, if you know anything abour mormon doctrine, that couldn't be further from the truth. Yes, the LDS Church supports traditional marriage(The released a worldwide proclamation almost 20 years ago on this very subject.), but not one time in all my years at church or at any time in the history of the church was anyone instructed by the leaders of the church to single out a certain group of people and act hateful towards them because of a difference in race, gender or orientation.


Gays get very angry with people if you don't support their viewpoint, even if you don't say anything negative about them.

I could go on the news tonight and say "I support traditonal Marriage!" and put my e-mail address on the screen. The next day, I would wake up to 10,000's of e-mails with extremely hateful things written in it towards me without eve rhaving said anything bad about anyone else. Gay supporters act that nasty.

I have family and friends that are out of the closet. The thought that I hate them has never even crossed my mine. That's ridiculous.
 
They hire gays bc they HAVE to, they would be slapped with a million dollar lawsuit quicker than you can get rid of your bitch tits.

Like many of my friends, I’ve known for quite some time about the fact that Chick-Fil-A donates millions of dollars of their profits to organizations such as Family Research Council, Exodus International, Focus on the Family, etc. The names of these groups sound harmless enough, but they are anything but. These are groups that not only actively try to prohibit gay marriage; they help fund groups that want to make it legal to be fired from your job for being gay, groups that want to deport gay citizens out of the country and groups that support legislature intended to legalize the execution of gay people. Harmless, indeed.

Personally I could care less if the Geighs marry each other or whatever. But if they have the right to be gay and proud then people have the right to follow their religious belief and thinks its wrong. There are bigger issues here and this is just Smoke screen shit to turn peoples attention away from other stuff. People love gay controversy. And by the way Obama has donated and supported several Muslim groups that by their law In Their countries stone gays to death. Had an article in the paper about a while back how these youths have to hide in fear of being stoned to death. And as for donating their money.....Fuck its their money. If i want to give it to starving Africans, give it to scientology weirdos, peta, or whoever who cares....as long as I'm not directly funding terrorism or warlords spreading genocide then I'm fine.
 
The point is, the guy didn't come and say that he hates gay people when this whole thing exploded, but that's how it was taken ou to fproportion.

The one problem I have with the gay people is this very thing.

If you don't agree with their viewpoint and they automatically label you a bigot, a hater and a horrible person when that is a completely unjust conclusion to arrive at.

This whole thing hits home a second time for me. I'm mormon, and our church was attacked viciously after Prop 8 passed, even our ward houses and temples were vandalized. Every mormon was automatically labeled a gay-hating bigot and they started saying that the mormon church teaches you to hate gay people. On the contrary, if you know anything abour mormon doctrine, that couldn't be further from the truth. Yes, the LDS Church supports traditional marriage(The released a worldwide proclamation almost 20 years ago on this very subject.), but not one time in all my years at church or at any time in the history of the church was anyone instructed by the leaders of the church to single out a certain group of people and act hateful towards them because of a difference in race, gender or orientation.


Gays get very angry with people if you don't support their viewpoint, even if you don't say anything negative about them.

I could go on the news tonight and say "I support traditonal Marriage!" and put my e-mail address on the screen. The next day, I would wake up to 10,000's of e-mails with extremely hateful things written in it towards me without eve rhaving said anything bad about anyone else. Gay supporters act that nasty.

I have family and friends that are out of the closet. The thought that I hate them has never even crossed my mine. That's ridiculous.

Didn't you just say that you and approximately 98% of the hetero male population is disgusted by geighs?
 
Personally I could care less if the Geighs marry each other or whatever. But if they have the right to be gay and proud then people have the right to follow their religious belief and thinks its wrong. There are bigger issues here and this is just Smoke screen shit to turn peoples attention away from other stuff. People love gay controversy. And by the way Obama has donated and supported several Muslim groups that by their law In Their countries stone gays to death. Had an article in the paper about a while back how these youths have to hide in fear of being stoned to death. And as for donating their money.....Fuck its their money. If i want to give it to starving Africans, give it to scientology weirdos, peta, or whoever who cares....as long as I'm not directly funding terrorism or warlords spreading genocide then I'm fine.

liar...
 
Who the fuck cares about Syrians?

You should. This is all leading up to global distablizarion. World wide economic shutdown. Possibly world war then on to a New world government and centralized monetary system....Or just higher gas prices!
 
Didn't you just say that you and approximately 98% of the hetero male population is disgusted by geighs?

Go ask 100 straight guys 1 by and 1 and ask them if they think gayness is gross. You'll be hard-pressed to find a siginifcant amount that say "no".

Your typical "real man" thinks gayness is gross. That's just the truth.

I'm just being real here. Not trying to be mean.
 
The more important thing at issue here which has yet to be mentioned is that I have properly functioning, average-sized genitals.
 
This whole thing hits home a second time for me. I'm mormon, and our church was attacked viciously after Prop 8 passed, even our ward houses and temples were vandalized. Every mormon was automatically labeled a gay-hating bigot and they started saying that the mormon church teaches you to hate gay people. On the contrary, if you know anything abour mormon doctrine, that couldn't be further from the truth.

Your church didn't get all that shit just for being Mormon and supporting traditional marriage. They were justifiably criticized for actively funding opposition to to a law that simply gives equal rights, while claiming tax exempt status.
Political activism by a 501C3 organization is illegal.

Just think what a dent we could put in the deficit if Romney AND the Mormon Church paid their fair share of taxes.
 
Live and let live, people are so concerned with others lives

That's ok with me. If you are an average guy, do and think what you want. If you are a zillionaire who's words get spread to millions of people, then its open season. So let that be a lesson to all you zillionaires - don't be a moron.
 
And by the way Obama has donated and supported several Muslim groups that by their law In Their countries stone gays to death.

WTF kind of retarded bullshit is this? Post links to support your dumb ass accusations so we can all laugh at where you get your info. Sheesh.
 
Go ask 100 straight guys 1 by and 1 and ask them if they think gayness is gross. You'll be hard-pressed to find a siginifcant amount that say "no".

Your typical "real man" thinks gayness is gross. That's just the truth.

I'm just being real here. Not trying to be mean.

Odd feedback from a dude with such large moobs.
 
Go ask 100 straight guys 1 by and 1 and ask them if they think gayness is gross. You'll be hard-pressed to find a siginifcant amount that say "no".

Your typical "real man" thinks gayness is gross. That's just the truth.

I'm just being real here. Not trying to be mean.


So it went from 98% to a significant amount. What you said is


I guarantee that Barack is totally grossed out by homosexuals just like 98% of other straight men.

FYI: Not wanting to be a gay guy is different than being grossed out by them.

You disrespect people you don't know, so why do you deserve respect yourself?
 
i didn't really care for there food


i also don't support gay marriage casue it is gross
 
I think John Stewart summed it up really well, on the Sean Hannity show a long time ago.

"I used to be against gay marriage because..
I thought it was mandatory!
"Then I realized, its only for gay people!".

Even the despicable Hannity smiled, though he was trying hard not to.
 
If you disagree with obama youre racist
If you disagree with gay marriage youre bigot
If you drive an SUV you hate the environment
If you own a handgun youre a psycho
If you disagree with the government youre a domestic terrorist
If you prefer your wife stay home to raise your kids,you hate women
If you do everything you can to legally minimize your tax liability you hate poor people
If youre pro choice you hate babies
If youre pro life you hate women
If youre against the war on drugs you want children to die
If youre against affirmative action youre racist
If you think the government spends too much money you hate everyone
 
If you disagree with obama youre racist
If you disagree with gay marriage youre bigot
If you drive an SUV you hate the environment
If you own a handgun youre a psycho
If you disagree with the government youre a domestic terrorist
If you prefer your wife stay home to raise your kids,you hate women
If you do everything you can to legally minimize your tax liability you hate poor people
If youre pro choice you hate babies
If youre pro life you hate women
If youre against the war on drugs you want children to die
If youre against affirmative action youre racist
If you think the government spends too much money you hate everyone

Pretty much sums it up

Also, I don't think it's gross. Now if two other men in here agree then we have disproven mr 98%
 
Go ask 100 straight guys 1 by and 1 and ask them if they think gayness is gross. You'll be hard-pressed to find a siginifcant amount that say "no".

Your typical "real man" thinks gayness is gross. That's just the truth.

I'm just being real here. Not trying to be mean.

What kind of neanderthal redneck shit town do you reside in?
 
Your church didn't get all that shit just for being Mormon and supporting traditional marriage. They were justifiably criticized for actively funding opposition to to a law that simply gives equal rights, while claiming tax exempt status.
Political activism by a 501C3 organization is illegal.

Just think what a dent we could put in the deficit if Romney AND the Mormon Church paid their fair share of taxes.

Omgololololololol!!!
 
I'm always serious. And welcome any intelligent debate. If you've got any in you.
But comments like this, that offer nothing, are really irritating.

Well Romney does pay his taxes and paid over $4 million in a year. And he donated 5+ million to the Mormon church. Capital gains taxes are 15% due to the nature of the investment, it's not guaranteed. He just has great advisors who make wise investments. The wealthy pay 42% income tax, his wasn't income it was capital gains.

Obama had added 5 trillion to the deficit.

The bottom 47% of the country pay 0% of federal tax. Where's their fair share?. The should be accountable for something.

Somehow we attack the wealthy as if they did something wrong. Romney is a self made millionaire and that used to be the American dream.
 
Well Romney does pay his taxes and paid over $4 million in a year. And he donated 5+ million to the Mormon church. Capital gains taxes are 15% due to the nature of the investment, it's not guaranteed. He just has great advisors who make wise investments. The wealthy pay 42% income tax, his wasn't income it was capital gains.

Obama had added 5 trillion to the deficit.

The bottom 47% of the country pay 0% of federal tax. Where's their fair share?. The should be accountable for something.

Somehow we attack the wealthy as if they did something wrong. Romney is a self made millionaire and that used to be the American dream.

not completely true...

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/c...y-paying-tax-country-954013.html#post13579353
 
ummm.. you are REQUIRED to give 10% of your money to the mormon church if you want to get in. you act like he voluntarily gave that money.

also he didn't pay shit for 10 years in taxes. he is a tax cheat. he only released 1 year of taxes and that showed he paid under 15%, so obviously the years he refused to disclose he didn't pay shit and is too embarassed to prove it. he's got 100M in his IRA when you can only contribute 5K max a year. also the guy isn't self made. his daddy was CEO of American Motors and a former governor. so he was born into politics and born into wealth. any idiot can turn millions into more millions. he gaves his sons 10M each to start their own companies. i guess to you his sons are self made too.

now thats fine that he used every trick in the book and every loophole and sent his wealth overseas, but atleast have the balls to come out and admit it instead of trying to hide the facts. and then you cannot take money from your family and use your dads power to get ahead in life and claim to be 'self made' .. another bullshit lie.
 
The bottom 47% of the country pay 0% of federal tax. Where's their fair share?. The should be accountable for something.
.

i thought you wingers were against taxes?

if i had it my way everyone would pay zero taxes. i hate taxes. but what i hate worse is rich people who bitch about their taxes when they lie, cheat, and use every loophole to pay nothing.. while the middle class have to make up for that

and then you turn around and complain about the deficit. if the rich paid their fair share plus we cut spending on stupid shit like the iraq war then we would balance things in 10 years. thats a fact. we balanced the budget under clinton cause he didn't get us into stupid wars
 
We are having a anti gay marriage rally here in Australia in a few days. I am thinking of attending, just to show support.

Legalizing gay marriage is a big big step in the wrong direction.
 
ummm.. you are REQUIRED to give 10% of your money to the mormon church if you want to get in. you act like he voluntarily gave that money.

also he didn't pay shit for 10 years in taxes. he is a tax cheat. he only released 1 year of taxes and that showed he paid under 15%, so obviously the years he refused to disclose he didn't pay shit and is too embarassed to prove it. he's got 100M in his IRA when you can only contribute 5K max a year. also the guy isn't self made. his daddy was CEO of American Motors and a former governor. so he was born into politics and born into wealth. any idiot can turn millions into more millions. he gaves his sons 10M each to start their own companies. i guess to you his sons are self made too.

now thats fine that he used every trick in the book and every loophole and sent his wealth overseas, but atleast have the balls to come out and admit it instead of trying to hide the facts. and then you cannot take money from your family and use your dads power to get ahead in life and claim to be 'self made' .. another bullshit lie.

The 10 years without a taxes is a lie by Harry reid, who has been caught lying a handful of times. Are you seriously that dumb that you think the IRS wouldn't figure that shit out?

Also I'm not a right winger either. If you saw I am also pro gay marriage. I'm actually a democrat, but fiscally observant.

Romney also donated all of his inheritance to the church.
 
The 10 years without a taxes is a lie by Harry reid, who has been caught lying a handful of times. Are you seriously that dumb that you think the IRS wouldn't figure that shit out?

Also I'm not a right winger either. If you saw I am also pro gay marriage. I'm actually a democrat, but fiscally observant.

Romney also donated all of his inheritance to the church.


all it takes is 5 seconds to release the returns and prove he is a liar. but we both know he won't cause its true.. I don't think you have a clue about how the tax system works, he cheated the system and avoided taxes. it wasn't that he did anything illegal.. there is a difference between the two. I never said he broke the law, i said he cheated his taxes (legally but morally wrong) you are looking at the issue in black and white. you aren't seeing the big picture.

also why didn't you answer my question as to how someone magically has 100M in their IRA when you can only put in 5 or 10K max a year? that is pretty fucked up. i have an IRA myself and had to pay a penalty for putting too much in but romney gets away with it?

I dated a Mormon myself so I am very familiar how the church works. you have to give money to get in and the more money you give the more power/favors you get back. Mormons are extremely powerful in the business world and if you have connections you will get very far. really the money that he gave the church was bribe money .. Mormonism is NOT like other religions, its very much like a cult and a club. you walk into a baptist church and pay nothing and they pass around a basket and you throw in 20 bucks and you are g2g. in the Mormon church you are NOT allowed in unless you pay and pay big. the money he gave the church was an INVESTMENT and boy did he get a good return on that investment!! also it helps when your daddy has political connections on top of that.
 
ummm.. you are REQUIRED to give 10% of your money to the mormon church if you want to get in. you act like he voluntarily gave that money.

also he didn't pay shit for 10 years in taxes. he is a tax cheat. he only released 1 year of taxes and that showed he paid under 15%, so obviously the years he refused to disclose he didn't pay shit and is too embarassed to prove it. he's got 100M in his IRA when you can only contribute 5K max a year. also the guy isn't self made. his daddy was CEO of American Motors and a former governor. so he was born into politics and born into wealth. any idiot can turn millions into more millions. he gaves his sons 10M each to start their own companies. i guess to you his sons are self made too.

now thats fine that he used every trick in the book and every loophole and sent his wealth overseas, but atleast have the balls to come out and admit it instead of trying to hide the facts. and then you cannot take money from your family and use your dads power to get ahead in life and claim to be 'self made' .. another bullshit lie.

what's the quickest way to have a million dollars in the stock market?


























start with 2 million :lmao:
 
all it takes is 5 seconds to release the returns and prove he is a liar. but we both know he won't cause its true.. I don't think you have a clue about how the tax system works, he cheated the system and avoided taxes. it wasn't that he did anything illegal.. there is a difference between the two. I never said he broke the law, i said he cheated his taxes (legally but morally wrong) you are looking at the issue in black and white. you aren't seeing the big picture.

also why didn't you answer my question as to how someone magically has 100M in their IRA when you can only put in 5 or 10K max a year? that is pretty fucked up. i have an IRA myself and had to pay a penalty for putting too much in but romney gets away with it?

I dated a Mormon myself so I am very familiar how the church works. you have to give money to get in and the more money you give the more power/favors you get back. Mormons are extremely powerful in the business world and if you have connections you will get very far. really the money that he gave the church was bribe money .. Mormonism is NOT like other religions, its very much like a cult and a club. you walk into a baptist church and pay nothing and they pass around a basket and you throw in 20 bucks and you are g2g. in the Mormon church you are NOT allowed in unless you pay and pay big. the money he gave the church was an INVESTMENT and boy did he get a good return on that investment!! also it helps when your daddy has political connections on top of that.

You realize the burden falls on Reid to prove anything. If you believe anything someone says based on anonymous sources then you have no idea how the world works. You can't just go around asserting things without any proof.

This has just turned into class warfare. Everyone just hates on the successful because it's not them.

If you have issues with taxes/funds/etc then contact your representatives about reforms. These people aren't doing anything illegal, they have good accountants who know how to work the system. Fix the system.

Obama has done nothing beneficial for our economy and we are 2 million jobs short of where we should be under him in terms of job creation.

The 5 trillion added to our national debt is going to cripple us in the future.
 
ummm.. you are REQUIRED to give 10% of your money to the mormon church if you want to get in. you act like he voluntarily gave that money.

also he didn't pay shit for 10 years in taxes. he is a tax cheat. he only released 1 year of taxes and that showed he paid under 15%, so obviously the years he refused to disclose he didn't pay shit and is too embarassed to prove it. he's got 100M in his IRA when you can only contribute 5K max a year. also the guy isn't self made. his daddy was CEO of American Motors and a former governor. so he was born into politics and born into wealth. any idiot can turn millions into more millions. he gaves his sons 10M each to start their own companies. i guess to you his sons are self made too.

now thats fine that he used every trick in the book and every loophole and sent his wealth overseas, but atleast have the balls to come out and admit it instead of trying to hide the facts. and then you cannot take money from your family and use your dads power to get ahead in life and claim to be 'self made' .. another bullshit lie.

the top 20% pay 70% of the tax...fact (as published by the department of treasury).
 
Well Romney does pay his taxes and paid over $4 million in a year. And he donated 5+ million to the Mormon church. Capital gains taxes are 15% due to the nature of the investment, it's not guaranteed. He just has great advisors who make wise investments. The wealthy pay 42% income tax, his wasn't income it was capital gains.

When I say fair share, I don't mean that Romney broke any laws (that we can prove, yet), I mean that tax policy needs to change to favor the majority of Americans and not the rich. Raising taxes on guys like Romney is good for America. Why should a janitor pay a higher rate than a multi millionaire? The SLIGHT rise in tax rates proposed by Obama will help with the deficit (which you seem to care about), fund the country, and be in line with low tax rates in the past that were prosperous.

And you forgot to mention the Mormon Church. If they are going to be a political organization then lets get fair taxes off their 5 Billion annual income.

Obama had added 5 trillion to the deficit.

No. The debt went up, but Obama didn't..........
A. Cause the first 1.2 trillion dollar debt in 2009 which was already on the books forcast before he took office
B. Start 2 wars costing an estimated 4T when its all said and done.
C. Crash the economy which lowered revenue by more than 1 T per year
D. Lower taxes for rich people. 1T over ten years.
E. Bail out the banks. 800 B right there.

F. Obama also isn't to blame for the Jobs bill not passing and other initiatives blocked by Republicans who want a shitty economy to help them win elections.


The bottom 47% of the country pay 0% of federal tax. Where's their fair share?. The should be accountable for something.

Where's there fair share? Jesus that's a good one. They don't have anything! If you need to fill up Lake Mead, are you going to use the Colorado River, or are you going go after someones cup of water? 1% of America has the all the water. that's how you fill up the lake.
It didn't used to be like that. All the money went to the top, and now the people at the top say lets get more money from the dregs still left at the bottom.
Republicans are criticized for favoring the rich and fighting a war against the middle class. Do you not see how true this is, with your own talking point? Half the country has 2% of the wealth. 150 million people with less money than 400 fat cats at the top, and you whine that they don't pay enough? You could take all their money and it would not add up to shit.
That's not the way America should be.

Somehow we attack the wealthy as if they did something wrong. Romney is a self made millionaire and that used to be the American dream.

Self made? Not quite. A spoiled rich kid son of a CEO and Politician blue blood who never experienced, not even for one day, the struggles most Americans face.
 
Jesus, Mormons suck.

actually they don't. :blow:

and for whatever reason they have hairy pussies. very hairy. is it a sin to shave down there?

but they are smart and very attractive.. but thats my personal preference, i tend to like fair skinned chicks. Mormon girls are actually encouraged to date outside their faith which is good for us, but expect a lot of weirdness to be exhibited onto you.

where is that dude on here from utah maybe he can chime in on this?
 
The rich do pay a higher rate than janitors. Income tax for them is about 42%. The janitor would pay the same capital gains tax of 15%.

The bottom 47% should pay. The wealthy already finance the majority of our country. But the poorer people want more for nothing and not to pay anything. All Americans should pay a portion. We penalize wealth and success.
 
By law Romney will probably never be forced to release most of his tax records, unless of course he is subpoena'd for some of the shady looking stuff. The question is simply how much will it hurt him, to not allow the American people to properly vet a guy who wants to be President.
Traditional release of tax returns by Candidates:

Sen. Robert Dole, R-Kan., in the 1996 election.- 30 years of tax returns. Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., - 20 years

George Romney, in 1968 and Bill Clinton in 1992. - 12 years of tax returns. Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C., with 10

In 2000, George W. Bush provided 9
Al Gore - 8
In the 2008 Barack Obama - 7
Hillary Clinton -7
1988 - Massachusetts Gov. Michael Dukakis - 6

since 1980, only two general election candidates have revealed just two years of tax returns. One was Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., in 2008 (LOSER) and the other is Mitt Romney (Soon to be LOSER).
 
The rich do pay a higher rate than janitors. Income tax for them is about 42%. The janitor would pay the same capital gains tax of 15%.

The top federal rate is 35% Obama suggests 39%, the same as it was under Clinton and lower than it was for most of the 20th century.

Romneys released records showing he paid less than 14% in 2010, 2011. The rich don't pay higher rates than janitors. The Capital Gains laws need to change. Why should you pay more tax to work your ass off all year long, than a guy who simply tells his broker to buy and sell stock?
Capital gains rates were intended to encourage new business investment. The rich don't create anything by trading in stocks and commodities, and it makes no sense that we shield them from paying fair tax on that type of income. That's what I'm talking about when I say change the tax law to favor America, not the rich.
If you are going to take 30% of my money I earned by sweating in a factory all day, then take 30% of the money of the guy who just clicked the "sell" button on his computer.

The bottom 47% should pay. The wealthy already finance the majority of our country. But the poorer people want more for nothing and not to pay anything. All Americans should pay a portion. We penalize wealth and success.

They should pay, to what end? They do pay - sales tax, payroll tax, social security, state, etc. So you want to eliminate their federal deductions? Why? It would amount to nothing, and disincentivise people to work for low paying jobs. It would hurt children. Its retarded in a thousand ways. Tell me how taking money from low income people helps anyone?
You have been brainwashed. Fat cats are smoking big cigars devising their strategy of convincing people that fighting for the rich is somehow good for America and good for the poor. And you are doing their work for them while they laugh all the way to the bank.

The rich finance the majority of this country you say, but how? by exploiting the natural resources we should all benefit from as citizens. By being fortunate enough to have this countrys economic system and infrastructure that allows them to enrich themselves, and by having a middle class that pays. So the rich should pay for the benefits they have received.
If you don't believe that, you don't believe in America, because that's the way its always been.
 
ummm.. you are REQUIRED to give 10% of your money to the mormon church if you want to get in. you act like he voluntarily gave that money.

also he didn't pay shit for 10 years in taxes. he is a tax cheat. he only released 1 year of taxes and that showed he paid under 15%, so obviously the years he refused to disclose he didn't pay shit and is too embarassed to prove it. he's got 100M in his IRA when you can only contribute 5K max a year. also the guy isn't self made. his daddy was CEO of American Motors and a former governor. so he was born into politics and born into wealth. any idiot can turn millions into more millions. he gaves his sons 10M each to start their own companies. i guess to you his sons are self made too.

now thats fine that he used every trick in the book and every loophole and sent his wealth overseas, but atleast have the balls to come out and admit it instead of trying to hide the facts. and then you cannot take money from your family and use your dads power to get ahead in life and claim to be 'self made' .. another bullshit lie.

You don't have to pay tithing to be a member of the mormon church. Don't all-caps something that isn't true. If you don't really know for sure, then don't say so assuredly.

Tithing is required to recieve a "Temple Recommend" which allows you to attend the temple and participate in the rites.

Tithing is a commandment of God, and has been ever since the time of Adam. Abraham paid his tithes to the High Priest, Melchizedek and that was like 5000 years ago or whatever.

Therefore, if you do no keep the commandments of God, you cannot particiapte in the rites of the temple because you are not worthy by definition.
 
What kind of neanderthal redneck shit town do you reside in?

Upscale suburban area near salt lake....

Lmao, just because you don't realize how the majority of people don't really like gayness you get all bunched up. It's funny. It's all the wussies and bitches that won't admit it to someone else for fear of being ridiculed for it because the gays have PC people in their back pocket already.
 
Your church didn't get all that shit just for being Mormon and supporting traditional marriage. They were justifiably criticized for actively funding opposition to to a law that simply gives equal rights, while claiming tax exempt status.
Political activism by a 501C3 organization is illegal.

Just think what a dent we could put in the deficit if Romney AND the Mormon Church paid their fair share of taxes.

Gays didn't vandalize the Church's property for allegedly violating a tax code (which they did NOT).

Marriage is not a legal right to gay people and it never should be. Marriage is for heterosexuals.

Gays can have every single legal benefit under the sun that a married couple has. I am totally fine with that. But, they want to destroy what mariage has been about for millenia, and that is absolutely wrong. Fuck them for trying to do this and having already succeeded.

Alo, I'd like to add that studies show that heterosexual couple homes produce more well-rounded and happy, well-behaved children and grow up in a more positive environment than those that do single homes, gay homes, and re-married homes. The reason being is because they have a mother and father that fill both gender roles properly, which is vital to a healthy upbringing. Gays try to fuck this system right in the ass, pun intended.
 
actually they don't. :blow:

and for whatever reason they have hairy pussies. very hairy. is it a sin to shave down there?

but they are smart and very attractive.. but thats my personal preference, i tend to like fair skinned chicks. Mormon girls are actually encouraged to date outside their faith which is good for us, but expect a lot of weirdness to be exhibited onto you.

where is that dude on here from utah maybe he can chime in on this?

Lmao, it is not a sin to shave your body hahaha.

Lots of mormon chicks are smoking hot. There are also some very ugly ones.

And, I have never heard of Mormon girls being encouraged (not specifically anyways) to date outside of their faith. In fact, they are taught to date men that hold the mormon priesthood worthily and get married in the temple.

As far as hairy pussies, I wouldn't know. I like cawk. lol, jk. I'm sure there are girls that let the forrest grow wild.
 
You bitter?

No, not at all. Sure, it's upsetting at times, but such is life. Not everyone gets along. I try to get along with everyone. If they don't want to get along with me, well then I don't really care as long as they mind their own business.
 
Lmao, it is not a sin to shave your body hahaha.

Lots of mormon chicks are smoking hot. There are also some very ugly ones.

And, I have never heard of Mormon girls being encouraged (not specifically anyways) to date outside of their faith. In fact, they are taught to date men that hold the mormon priesthood worthily and get married in the temple.

As far as hairy pussies, I wouldn't know. I like cawk. lol, jk. I'm sure there are girls that let the forrest grow wild.

I'm not mormon (i'm actually an atheist) and i dated one so how could you say that they only date other mormons? lol ... she was very hung up about her religion though and seemed to be ashamed to admit she was one.. not sure why i couldn't care less what anyones religion is. and she was shocked that I didn't give a rats ass like she expected me to dump her on the spot and kick her out.

also one of my buds dated a mormon as well and he was catholic. so they do date outside.. now maybe over there in Utah since its like 90% mormon things are different i dunno.

and yes i would of converted and became a mormon if that is what it took cause that chick was hawt. BUT she was too wild for me and mental
 
I'm not mormon (i'm actually an atheist) and i dated one so how could you say that they only date other mormons? lol ... she was very hung up about her religion though and seemed to be ashamed to admit she was one.. not sure why i couldn't care less what anyones religion is. and she was shocked that I didn't give a rats ass like she expected me to dump her on the spot and kick her out.

also one of my buds dated a mormon as well and he was catholic. so they do date outside.. now maybe over there in Utah since its like 90% mormon things are different i dunno.

and yes i would of converted and became a mormon if that is what it took cause that chick was hawt. BUT she was too wild for me and mental

Facepalm. You are putting words into my mouth.

I didn't say they don't date people of other faiths.

I was responding to you saying that they are encouraged to date outside of their faith, which really isn't true. They are encouraged to date men that are in the church and can marry them in the temple.

Yes, they do date outside of the faith and there's nothing in the church that says you can't do that.

I've dated girls that aren't mormon myself and I go to church pretty much every sunday.

Also, in Utah, only about 50% are Mormons and the percentage is decreasing because many people are moving into this state from other areas.
 
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