Final Draft

[STTM]

CYCLE

1-14 Sustanon, 1500mg/week (drop to 250mg at week 13)
1-12 Deca, 800mg/week
1-4 Dbol/Abomb, 20mg/50mg
7-12 Tren Ace, 100mg/eod
1-12 LGD-4033, 10mg/day
1-14 Aromasin, 25mg/day
1-14 Caber, 2mg/week
1-14 HCG, 500iu/week

PCT

15-18 Clomid, 100/50/50/50
15-18 Nolva, 40/40/20/20
15-18 Aromasin, 12.5mg/day
15-18 Proviron, 25mg/day

After messaging with some people. I may end up starting at 1000mg a test a week, with 600mg of deca, and then bumping it up to 1500 and 800 at week 7.

Had a thread a made yesterday, but it went away. So let's try to keep the civilized

28, 5-9, 235-240, 15-17% body fat. Looking for lean mass and strength. Want to get raw bench above 500, and Squat above 700. Hopefully some you remember the original post. If this is new to you, or need more info let me know.

 

[stevesmi]

well with your lifts and stats I give you props first off.. you are a beast like me and not worried about impressing the 17 year old chicks at the beach, but are worried about killing it in the gym and blowing everyone away in strength. wish more guys were like that because that is how I roll too

second off I don't like your pct at all!! you are running a long estered 14 week cycle which essentially is a 22 week cycle once the esters clear and only a 4 week pct which includes proviron. you might as well not even bother with a pct if that is going to be your approach and just stay on.

if you really want to run a correct pct it needs to be a solid 8 weeks.. >>> read this.. its the pct I run and I recover everytime. as well as my clients do http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/p...est-pct-2014-time-break-out-whip-1328483.html

 

[STTM]

well with your lifts and stats I give you props first off.. you are a beast like me and not worried about impressing the 17 year old chicks at the beach, but are worried about killing it in the gym and blowing everyone away in strength. wish more guys were like that because that is how I roll too

second off I don't like your pct at all!! you are running a long estered 14 week cycle which essentially is a 22 week cycle once the esters clear and only a 4 week pct which includes proviron. you might as well not even bother with a pct if that is going to be your approach and just stay on.

if you really want to run a correct pct it needs to be a solid 8 weeks.. >>> read this.. its the pct I run and I recover everytime. as well as my clients do http:/

Thanks for the REAL reply stevemi. I lift to move weight, and be big and strong. And besides, at the end of the day.. a sexy lady prefers a big guy that can take care of them

I am going to be running the Post Cycle and Unleashed combo in PCT, and beyond. I just didn't mention it because I wanted the thread to be about steroids, and not supplements. I looked at the Test Stack.. it definitely looks intense. A little pricey, but hey, it's only money. You make a good point about PCT and Deca and how it lingers in the system. And I totally agree with you about have the commonly used PCT drugs manipulate things. I always get bloods done and have recovered fine. I think I may add the Test Stack to PCT, and beyond during a peptide bridge to help recovery. Thanks again!

Also, in the previous thread, I talked about the pros of using proviron in PCT. I'm sure you will know what I am going to say.

Cheers.

 

[STTM]

Bumping for more input.

Thanks bros.

 

[Elvia1023]

Your cycle looks great. Yes it's definitely worthwhile starting off lower and building up to your max dose. I always taper up. Hormones will work no matter what but I don't like set cycles. There shouldn't be limits and if changes need to be made to progress you do it. Good luck with your cycle

 

[RickRock13]

It's a hefty cycle to say the least, but it should definitely do the job. You are a big guy and experienced with cycling, so it should work well from an advanced standpoint. I'm still not a fan of having the proviron in PCT, but I know you are set on it so I will say no more about it.

 

[STTM]

I'll admit it's a bit hefty. But, in my opinion, if you want to get big, you can't be running 250mg of Test with a little bit of something else.

I've tapered dosages up a few times, never really felt any difference. But you can't argue with science.

And about the proviron in PCT.. it's based on the same idea of ostarine. Explain to me how it's any different?

 

[northernknight]

It's a big cycle, but I like it. Personally I would run lower Test and higher DECA, and always stack at least a small dose of Masteron with Tren, but those are just my preferences, you seem to know what you're doing
I'm also fan of upping doses midway during cycle, not running everything steadily from the start during my blast.
GL Bro!

 

[STTM]

It's a big cycle, but I like it. Personally I would run lower Test and higher DECA, and always stack at least a small dose of Masteron with Tren, but those are just my preferences, you seem to know what you're doing
I'm also fan of upping doses midway during cycle, not running everything steadily from the start during my blast.
GL Bro!

Test is King

Thanks for your input bro.

 

[gymrat827]

drop prov from pct and add hcgenerate. Your going to have a harder recovery so add what you can into it.

i really like the drol/dbol stack, that will give tons of strength til the deca is really doing its thing.