Fina Conversion ???

[swordfish151]

Ok so im going to attempt to make my own fina (tren ace) i have read basskillers site and have informed myself on the process..my question is the following...or better yet..i dont understand the following :

CONVERSION MATHEMATICS
Each Finaplix cartridge contains 2000mg (or 2 grams) or trenbolone acetate, so you would need 2 cartridges for a “4g” kit conversion. The following recipe is intended for a 4g kit: 8ml BA, 42ml oil, and 4000mg (4 grams) of Finaplix pellets. This will yield an end product of 75mg/ml which is the standard conversion. Add your volumes of oil+pellets+BA and divide that number into 4000 for a 4gram kit conversion. 4grams of fina is approximately equal to 4mls.

8mlBA+4gTREN+42ml oil divided into 4000 = 74.07mg/ml.

Its stating (2) carts of finaplix for a 4g kit...is this equivalant to the fina farm kit? meaning will the 8ml BA, 42ml oil come with that kit? also it says that it will yeild 75mg/ml ....how many ml in the end though?

 

[swordfish151]

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[bighen58]

You have 8ml of BA + 42ml of oil = 50 ml of total liquid (this is the same as the FF 4g kit). 4000 mgs of fina/50 ml = approx. 80 mg/ml. Or in other words you'd have 50 shots (1 ml each) at 80 mgs each.

You will most likely end up with 47-48 ml of total liquid in the end because you'll lose some in the conversion. It is also likely that you would end up with less than 80 mg/ml if the fina does not completely dissolve (that may be how they end up with 75 mg/ml for the final product).

To get a little more out of the conversion I'd highly recommend using the coffee filter step that FF posts in their kit instructions on their website.

 

[swordfish151]

You have 8ml of BA + 42ml of oil = 50 ml of total liquid (this is the same as the FF 4g kit). 4000 mgs of fina/50 ml = approx. 80 mg/ml. Or in other words you'd have 50 shots (1 ml each) at 80 mgs each.

You will most likely end up with 47-48 ml of total liquid in the end because you'll lose some in the conversion. It is also likely that you would end up with less than 80 mg/ml if the fina does not completely dissolve (that may be how they end up with 75 mg/ml for the final product).

To get a little more out of the conversion I'd highly recommend using the coffee filter step that FF posts in their kit instructions on their website.

K to you my friend...thanks for the response..yes i was planning on doing the coffee filter step as well...on basskiller site the first method is with the coffee filter which i plan to do so....once the conversion is completed..all said and done...i've read about baking it? does this or should this be done..heard conflicting views...

 

[swordfish151]

One more question...fina farm or getpinz for the kit? experiences? which is better?

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

One more question...fina farm or getpinz for the kit? experiences? which is better?

fina farm worked

 

[swordfish151]

yeah was going to go with them..saw that getpinz was cheaper...but not sure if the kits are identical or if one is missing stuff that the other has..

 

[bighen58]

I've used fina farm, worked great for me. Can't speak for getpinz.

As far as baking...I've done 4 conversions and only baked my stuff once and never had a problem with three times I didn't. The time I did bake it the plastic part of the needle melted which concerned me a bit (the temp was only 250 degrees).

If sterility is a concern you may want to use a .2 filter instead of a .45. It takes a little longer and you may need to buy an extra filter, but I've noticed the .2 comes out much clearer.

 

[swordfish151]

I've used fina farm, worked great for me. Can't speak for getpinz.

As far as baking...I've done 4 conversions and only baked my stuff once and never had a problem with three times I didn't. The time I did bake it the plastic part of the needle melted which concerned me a bit (the temp was only 250 degrees).

If sterility is a concern you may want to use a .2 filter instead of a .45. It takes a little longer and you may need to buy an extra filter, but I've noticed the .2 comes out much clearer.

Sounds good to me bro!!! i'll get the .2 instead and wont bake my first batch!

 

[Apexx]

I've used fina farm, worked great for me. Can't speak for getpinz.

As far as baking...I've done 4 conversions and only baked my stuff once and never had a problem with three times I didn't. The time I did bake it the plastic part of the needle melted which concerned me a bit (the temp was only 250 degrees).

If sterility is a concern you may want to use a .2 filter instead of a .45. It takes a little longer and you may need to buy an extra filter, but I've noticed the .2 comes out much clearer.

Just want everyone to be clear about this, the filter doesn't sterilize the solution, the BA does.