Favorite Mass Builder

[jstarr37]

i realized when i first deadlifted twice my wieght my totem animal was Sasquatch

 

[wolfman87]

lol that's funny as hell. it's a good feeling to be able to do that huh? i'm not quite to that point yet but soon!

 

[the_alcatraz]

I did a shitload od deadlifts yesterday...

 

[FunFun]

- Why would you want to work out at a gym that didn't allow Olympic lifts.? ....... Give me a break.

Because, as a bodybuilder I'm simply not interested in Olympic lifts. No excuses necessary...there are far better mass builders which can be done in a regular gym. Give me a break.

Power cleans and regular cleans are speed/technique movements. It's safer and more effective (for mass building) to do deadlifts, front squats and power shrugs seperately. Sure, you'll develope more power doing power cleans, but not more strength or mass.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Because, as a bodybuilder I'm simply not interested in Olympic lifts. No excuses necessary...there are far better mass builders which can be done in a regular gym. Give me a break.

Power cleans and regular cleans are speed/technique movements. It's safer and more effective (for mass building) to do deadlifts, front squats and power shrugs seperately. Sure, you'll develope more power doing power cleans, but not more strength or mass.

all very interesting points you make bro...

 

[FunFun]

all very interesting points you make bro...

I started out as an Olympic lifter in my late teens and early 20's. I love the movements, although because of injuries (motorcycle accident related) I can no longer do them. I got quite proficient at the lifts, but never developed much mass as a result.

In actual fact, in the clean and press you are doing a 4 phase movement. Deadlift, power shrug (high pull), front squat then press. One of these 4 phases will be the limiting phase (probably the front squat or press), which means the other 3 will be performed at a much lower relative intensity. There would also be a concern about volume because not too many reps can be done with these types of movements due to the cardio vascular stress on the body.

All in all, if you compared the intensity of doing the 4 phases individually during the course of a weekly bodybuilding routine with the various movements done on different days, the volume and intensity would be much higher and provide a much superior mass building stimulus.

If I were to pick the single best mass builder in terms of how much muscle the movement stimulates (at high intensity), it would probably be a toss up between the bench press (shoulders, chest, triceps), the bent over row (lower and upper back) and the squat (quads, hams and glutes with lower and upper back stimulus). Perhaps in terms of muscle weight stimulated the squat could be the winner.

I know a lot of people consider the deadlift to be a serious contender, but I would put it in 4th place or perhaps 3rd place at best.

 

[badhabit08]

lol u just described monday and friday of 5x5 program. "toss up between the bench press (shoulders, chest, triceps), the bent over row (lower and upper back) and the squat (quads, hams and glutes with lower and upper back stimulus). i'm just sayin i love this program. really gotten my maxes up well. i would say deadlift for best mass builder though. which is wednesdays.

 

[the_alcatraz]

I started out as an Olympic lifter in my late teens and early 20's. I love the movements, although because of injuries (motorcycle accident related) I can no longer do them. I got quite proficient at the lifts, but never developed much mass as a result.

In actual fact, in the clean and press you are doing a 4 phase movement. Deadlift, power shrug (high pull), front squat then press. One of these 4 phases will be the limiting phase (probably the front squat or press), which means the other 3 will be performed at a much lower relative intensity. There would also be a concern about volume because not too many reps can be done with these types of movements due to the cardio vascular stress on the body.

All in all, if you compared the intensity of doing the 4 phases individually during the course of a weekly bodybuilding routine with the various movements done on different days, the volume and intensity would be much higher and provide a much superior mass building stimulus.

If I were to pick the single best mass builder in terms of how much muscle the movement stimulates (at high intensity), it would probably be a toss up between the bench press (shoulders, chest, triceps), the bent over row (lower and upper back) and the squat (quads, hams and glutes with lower and upper back stimulus). Perhaps in terms of muscle weight stimulated the squat could be the winner.

I know a lot of people consider the deadlift to be a serious contender, but I would put it in 4th place or perhaps 3rd place at best.

I would def. say it is a tie with the squat as the best overall mass builder tbh.

 

[FunFun]

I would def. say it is a tie with the squat as the best overall mass builder tbh.

It's a difficult question to answer definitively though, isn't it?

Most serious weight trainers do all of the above, so picking out the single best mass builder is really just a guess.

 

[the_alcatraz]

It's a difficult question to answer definitely though, isn't it?

Most serious weight trainers do all of the above, so picking out the single best mass builder is really just a guess.

Yeh, I guess it depends on what works best for you.

I love the big three: bench, squats and deads.