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In the Eagles game there was a fake punt for a TD and now our league is arguing over weather it was and offensive play or a special teams play. I say Special teams and have already voted but I would be interested in other opinions.
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HUGHJORGEN
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In my version of fantasy football, I fuck all the cheer leaders!
HG Pennypacker
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I would say that it doesn't become a special teams play until the ball is kicked. If the punter throws a pass, it goes in passing stats. If he runs with the ball, it goes in rushing stats. If he fakes the punt and throws an interception, the defender would be credited in the defensive stats.
Offensive play, IMO.
Offensive play, IMO.
slickdadd
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It's a special teams play. It has the special teams unit on the field. Special teams allignment. It's special teams. Just because he throws it doesn't suddenly make it not special teams. Just like when a guy intercepts a ball on defense, its not suddenly an offensive play if he scores.
HG Pennypacker
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What if the coach keeps the identical offensive unit he had in on the last play and replaces the QB with the punter? There aren't players on the bench whose positions are listed as "special teams". How do you determine when the special teams unit is on the field?
slickdadd
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Because it is a special teams play. If the punter gets under center, then its an offensive play. But if he is set to put the ball, and fakes it, its a special teams play. Its not an offensive play. You run it in a special teams situation. Thats like saying, well a car is kind of like a truck, it does the same thing. No its not, its a car. Thats its name. Car. Special teams. That's its name. It's speshal.
We have rules in place for special teams issue on returns for punts and kickoffs. The technically strict ruling should be that if it isn't in the currently agreed to scoring system then its a non issue. However our commish has no spine so we get "Votes"...one guy said. Is it a W/L issue or just over points. If its W/L, I'll vote for whoever I hate the least. LMAO!!
cure
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I say offensive and so does the NFL. Once the ball leaves the punters foot and CROSSES the line of scrimmage then it's a special teams play. If it does not cross the line of scrimmage ie: on a punt block, fake punt, direct snap to a rb...then it is considered an offensive play.
An example is Browns/Steelers. The ball was kicked and blocked, if the ball would have crossed the line of scrimmage it would have resulted in a loss of possesion yet since it was blocked and went behind the line of scrimmage the kicker was able to try and run in for a td yet didn't make it and lost a down. That is considered an offensive play and a loss of a down.
An example is Browns/Steelers. The ball was kicked and blocked, if the ball would have crossed the line of scrimmage it would have resulted in a loss of possesion yet since it was blocked and went behind the line of scrimmage the kicker was able to try and run in for a td yet didn't make it and lost a down. That is considered an offensive play and a loss of a down.
Themachine01
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It was A 4th down play. It would have been considered A special teams play had Landettea actually punted the ball. If you were to award the special teams unit with the points. Then why isn't the def. credited with field goals, extra points, and 2 point conversions?
Themachine01
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Real easy in the box score the play was listed as A pass play which is A offensive play. The point I was making with extra point, field goal,and two point conversion is that they are also considered A special teams play, but we do not give the point to the def. on those play's. those points go to the kicker ad whoever completes the 2 point conversion. Under your thinking then shouldn't the def be credited with those points? They too are special teams plays.
cure
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No Because scoring is usually considered an offensive play and they are still currently in their drive when the special teams come on. It's generally 4th down and the defense(opposing special teams) does not have possesion of the ball therefore they are still on defense trying to defend their end zone. Point is that it is still 4th down and the offense is still in possesion no matter who is on the field. There is no such thing as special teams when talking about offense and defense. There is special teams plays though which could be used in certain situation..kickoffs etc...
TheProject
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I'd vote special teams, cause that's where the play's listed in Madden Football. 
pushing_fe
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Cure said:
Cure is correct sirs.
Lumberg
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pushing_fe
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joncrane said:
duritz
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It's by far an offensive play. Just because a team lines up in a punt formation doesn't make it a special team play. Technically they could line up on first down in that formation if they thought it would work. A special teams play is a field goal, punt return for a Td, Kickoff return for a TD and any type of fumble returned for a touchdown during these two plays. I should know... I am ranked nationally each yr in yahoo's fantasy football for the past four years. I was actually thinking of becoming an analyst for it. My team this year, Brady and Bledsoe for QB, gonzalez at TE, san diego and tampa bay defense, akers for a kicker, harrison, qadry ismail, kevin johnson, eric moulds, and keyshawn for WR and holmes, atowain smith and ricky williams (via a trade) at RB
hmmm sounds good to me
hmmm sounds good to me
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madbomber31
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a play like that is ALWAYS considered an offensive play.. it goes in offensive stats in the league...
now, what pisses me off is when i have a guy (tim brown) and he scores a td on a return i dont get points... that bugs the fuck out of me!!!
now, what pisses me off is when i have a guy (tim brown) and he scores a td on a return i dont get points... that bugs the fuck out of me!!!
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