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estrogen is good!

instant.muscle

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i was reading building the perfect beast and it says that estrogen is good because when passed thru the liver it increases IGF and GH levels
 
estrogen has its place, however more than a small amount in men is not beneficial and can be quite detrimental.

note- dont believe everything you read..
 
instant.muscle said:
yeah i brought it up 2 get opinions
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yes it seems that estrogen is needed to increase receptor uptake and build bone mass ,as well as getting your nuts to blow back up.problem is keeping estrogen from binding to areas such as your nipples thats where the problems lies.
 
estrogen is an essential hormone, too much and too little can be detrimental. Though in men just a little is needed, more than that just tends to cause issues. Suppression to extremely low levels, as many letro users can attest, also causes problems joints, libido, tendons, lethargy, etc...
 
well mac, in my test/eq/tren cycle what should i take during cycle 2 keep a little water off and keep estrogen at a good steady level, wouldnt mind having my dick work either, thanks bro!
 
Aromasin or AIFM.

both decrease SHBG and are suicidal inhibitors. Thier estrogen suppression profile emphasizes suppression of estradiol (strong estrogen) with less suppression of estrone (weak estrogen)

arimidex is the opposite, letro suppress both very strongly- plus they are competitive inhibitors (which present estrogen rebound issues)- its best to cycle off of them (if you use them) - followed by at least 2 weeks of a suicidal inhibitor
 
im taking
1-4 dbol
1-15 eq
1-15 test
8-15 tren
run arimidex throughout entire cycle and after or what? thanks! adex seems like wat im lookin 4
 
macrophage69alpha said:
estrogen has its place, however more than a small amount in men is not beneficial and can be quite detrimental.

note- dont believe everything you read..
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So am i meant to believe this -confused- :)
Its all about balance nothing in excess is good though i know a lot disagree when it comes to test :)
 
Estrogen is tied to HDL synthesis and LDL metabolism.-forget where i read that.

I deff want my estrogen back lol. On letro, tired as fuck, not horny, and i cant run cuase my knees killlll me.
 
letro is just too suppressive for a lot of people, some are fine but most find it to be too suppressive.

generally
aromasin and AIFM are the best choice for most people, all the benefits with much less chance of the negatives
 
i might try AIFM, think it will serve my purpose? i dont wanna lose ALL my water from dbol, just half of it, i like a little bloat in my tri's
 
Makavelli said:
I've never had a problem with Arimidex. I always take it.
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you also probably fall into the category of people that can get away without an AI.

Dex is a decent AI, its just too weak for most people (ie if you need an AI, really need one, dex is not for you).

really a proponet of aromasin and AIFM use. great E suppression profile, no chance of rebound (suicidal inhibition) and both lower SHBG (more free test)....
whats not to like :)
 
Silent Method said:
Please elaborate.
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I'm assuming mac is making reference to anastrozole being a weak estradiol inhibitor.D-bol converts to methyl-estradiol,which packs a whallop at the E/R.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
not only it is an ER smackdown agonist... its methylated so it floats around for a LONG ass time.
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Heh,I'm fooling around with a light dose of thai's right now,I better get some dang AIFM for my estrogen-sensitive arse.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
most users find that arimidex does little to reduce dbol bloat, meaning that it has little impact on its estrogenic conversion
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Mac..I am doing a light cycle this summer ie)300mgs/wk of test cyp and 400mgs/wk of Equipoise I'm doing 0.5mg e3rd day of arimidex, but find that I still have some gyno and fat storage is becoming an issue dispite a decent diet.
Now I didn't have this issue when I was just doing the test.I've been doing the Eq for 5 weeks now. Since Eq is similar in structure to D-bol, I was wondering if it's ineffective on E conversion of the eq or should I just increase the dex to eod or ed.I dont really like the Aromasin.
Thanks in advance :garza:

B32
 
macrophage69alpha said:
you also probably fall into the category of people that can get away without an AI.

Dex is a decent AI, its just too weak for most people (ie if you need an AI, really need one, dex is not for you).

really a proponet of aromasin and AIFM use. great E suppression profile, no chance of rebound (suicidal inhibition) and both lower SHBG (more free test)....
whats not to like :)
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Exactly!

There's really not much difference in cost b/w Arimidex and Aromasin. Only reason I could think to use dex if you want just a little more bloat.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
.5mg or 1mg ED.

why dont you like aromasin? any particular side?
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Thanks Mac..I tried it a year ago @25mgs eod and encountered libido issues as well as depression and joint problems in my shoulder areas,which are problematic for me.
Maybe I didn't give it a fair enough chance/runtime? I also have easy access to the dex, but I could find the Aromasin if need be.

I know we've pondered this many times,but what is it in the boldenone compound that stimulates the anxiogenic state? any new theories,conclusions? and I guess controlling the aromatization from Eq will only partially mitigate this problem, which has just started to rob my sleep, and make me eat like a fiend, when I'm trying to diet LOL.
Damm EQ cant live with her/can't live without her! Thanks mac

B32
 
macrophage69alpha said:
you also probably fall into the category of people that can get away without an AI.

Dex is a decent AI, its just too weak for most people (ie if you need an AI, really need one, dex is not for you).

really a proponet of aromasin and AIFM use. great E suppression profile, no chance of rebound (suicidal inhibition) and both lower SHBG (more free test)....
whats not to like :)
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How about just for test being where i live i can get dex would have to online order and ship in anything else?
 
so in order from stronger 2 weaker what is it arimidex aromasin(sp) AIFM which is strongest 2 weakest, i'd like the weakest cuz i do want a little water but i want a good balance of estrogen, if the weaker one is too weak i might take the mid :-D
 
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