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EQ vs. DECA

eq is great......eq well be better in cutting cycels and also its great in mass cycles and deca well give you more weight.....take both.....just say if you could only use on i would go with the eq.....but dont get me wrong deca is great too..
 
After shitloads of research and talking with others on this board, my first cycle is going to consist of test (omnadren) and EQ. From what I have read, EQ is the better choice.
 
EQ! I used Ultragan in my last cycle along with Sust and D-Bol and love it. Got me very hard and vascular. Great drug! Just my personal opinion. Best of luck!

M18
 
I prefer deca much more then EQ. If progesterone sides aren't a problem for you, you'd be crazy to choose EQ over deca unless you're cutting...
 
Personally, I love EQ for bulking because of the apetite increases it gives me. I didn't bulk anymore on Deca (actually less muscle gains) and it definitely added to the H20 retention problem---which got my BP up a little more than I expected. However, obviously to bulk EQ needs to be stacked with Test & Dbol, whereas Deca can sometimes stand alone. EQ also works well in a cutting cycle and is cheaper than Deca and I feel the gains are better quality ones. All things considered, I don't even consider buying Deca anymore, particularly with the Ttokkyo Boldenon 200 out.
 
I've heard about and am eager to try the synergy b/w Deca + D-bol for my next cycle. However, I did get quite a bit of water retention from my first Deca cycle. It seems as though substituting EQ in the place of Deca with the D-bol should hold less water, right? Is the synergy there b/w EQ & D-bol too?
 
Depends on what kind of EQ and what kind of Deca you can get. Most EQ are 50mg/ml and it's easy to find Deca 200mg/ml. It's a big difference in number of shots taken weekly.
On the other hand, Deca is one of the most often faked steroids, and EQ is not.
You will get more weight from Deca, but more water also, so it compensate, in a way.EQ will increase your appetite greatly and that's good argument for using it.
Sides, are the factor that make me pick EQ over Deca. Deca dick, progesteron receptor binding induced gyno, bloating, mood swings, are, practically uncontrollable, while EQ has very little sides if any, and they are easy to control.
EQ it is!
 
Cuts said:
It seems as though substituting EQ in the place of Deca with the D-bol should hold less water, right? Is the synergy there b/w EQ & D-bol too?
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Yes and Yes. EQ & Deca are both aggressive AR binders & therefore both synergize well with Dbol. Throw in some test & you have a great stack. I suggest you go with the Ttokkyo Boldenon 200.
 
So whats the final Prognosis

Hey guys Ok ...Now what is EQ what does it stand 4,
I guess its not a test like sustanon,So if Deca is not available would adding to my sustanon+winny+clen cycle be a good synergistisc Stack.:cool:
 
here is some information on EQ:

Pharmaceutical Name:
boldenone undecylenate


Brand Names:

Countries of Origin:
Boldebal-H 50 mg/ml; Ilium Troy Lab. Australia

Equipoise (o.c.) 25 ma, 50 mg/ml; Squibb Canada, Mexico,

U.S.

Equipoise 25 ma, 50 mg/ml; Solvay Vet. Canada,

Mexico, U.S.

Ganabol 25 ma, 50 mg/ml; Laboratorios VM.

Colombia, Panama,

Guatemala, El Salvador,

Honduras, Ecuador, Dom.

Rep.,Bolivia, Peru, Chile,

Paraguay, Venezuela

Pace 25 mg/ml; Jurox Labs Australia

Sybolin 25 mg/ml; Manufacturer unknown,

Australia

Vebonol 25 mg/ml; Ciba-Geigy G. CH,

Australia

Description:
Equipoise was developed by Ciba in 1949 for the veterinary industry in treating cattle, horses and dogs. It was actually meant to be a longer lasting injectable version of D-Bol, in fact D-Bol and Equipoise are chemically identical, what separates the two is that while D-bol has a 17Alpha alkyl (which keeps it from being broken down by the live during digestion) Equipoise has an Ester chain Undecylenate: Chemical Structure C11H20O2 (the ester chain is meant to slow down it's release for up to 28 days after injection).

Although chemically identical the action of Equipoise is very different from that of D-bol, Equipoise will be broken down by the liver in one pass, while D-bol will pass through several times unaffected. After ingestion D-Bol will remain active for up to 4 hours while Equipoise will release at small amounts for up to 28 days. Equipoise will aromatize into a simple estrogen, while D-Bol will aromatize into a 17Alpha alkyl estrogen which will remain in the system unaffected by the liver for a longer period of time(severe water retention and gynocomastia are very known side effects of D-Bol due to its conversion to a stronger Estrogen while the same User will experience neither of those side effects while using Equipoise).

Equipoise is a good all around drug, it stacks well for both cutting and bulking, it is a good mass and strength builder. While on a cutting cycle its users will appreciate the increased vascularity that comes from it's blood volumenizing effect. compared to some of the other drugs in it's class Equipoise is fairly inexpensive, so users should be able to use this drug at high dosages without going bankrupt.
 
hey Retabolil2 , you can get EQ in 50mg/ml 50cc (ganabol,maxi-gan,egui-gan), 100mg/ml 10cc (ultragan), and 200mg/ml 10cc (ttokkyo).
i do agree the site i got the info from needs to be updated it is a little out of date on the dosages and manufactures
 
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Damn, I wish I could get Ultragan in Moscow, I don`t like Ttokkyo products and I`ve heard their Eq is underdosed.
 
from reading the threads the ttokkyo eq is very good and has had some great reveiws. i have not tried it yet. i wont start my next cycle until july and i was thinking about trying it out. i had bought 4 bottles of ultragan and 3 of the 4 were underfilled by about .5cc.. other then that i had no complaints.
 
i agree with the deca statement, but it really depends on if someone is prone to gyno. i have not used deca, only EQ. the ttokkyo eq is still worth the money tome even if it would be underdosed. for me it is only like a $20 difference in cost to me. still worth the little extra $$
 
Well you`re right. 160mg is much better than 50mg per 1ml :)
You should try deca just to compare the results. It works fine with test and dbol :D
 
I WAS CONTIPLATING A CYCLE THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS. I HAVE TIME TO MAKE CHANGES TO IT. I HAVE THE WINNY AND FINA ALREADY.. JUST NEED TO GET THE REST ..

week---T200-------DECA----DBOL-----WINNY--------FINA
1-------600MG-----300MG---30MG-----------------
2-------600MG-----300MG---30MG-----------------
3-------600MG-----300MG---30MG-----------------
4-------600MG-----300MG---30MG-----------------
5-------600MG-----300MG---30MG-----------------
6-------400MG-----300MG-------------50MG eod---75MG eod
7-------400MG-----300MG-------------50MG eod---75MG eod
8-------200MG-----300MG-------------50MG eod---75MG eod
9---------------------300MG------------50MG eod---75MG eod
10-------------------300MG-------------50MG eod---75MG eod
11----------------------------------------50MG eod---75MG eod
12----------------------------------------50MG eod---75MG eod
 
1AbBIG-

I like the cycle, but why not up the T-200 to 800mg/wk, or at least use 600mg and keep the dosage constant. You have fina/winny at the end to prevent any crash.
 
I GOING TO BUY JUST 2 BOTTLES OF THE T200. I DID WELL ON ONE OF MY PREVIOUS CYCLES AT THAT DOSAGE. I WAS GOING TO RUN IT AGAIN AT THE SAME. I SEE NO REASON TO UP IF I STILL RESPOND TO THE LOWER DOSAGES. THE T200 DOSAGES WILL EMPTY BOTH VIALS.
 
1ABbig...I like that cycle Bro....ALOT!!! And as usual 2Thick is misguided in his ever increasing approach to EQ vs. Deca....there is no comparision between the two....PEROID.

EQ will out last and out preform Deca every time, and the bottom line....why combat 2 completly different sides?? Adding EQ to your cycle and you have only the estrogenic sides to contend with....with Deca added....a whole new ball game Bro's....

EQ rules....

Ranger
 
hey RANGER, i never used deca, only EQ . i am still deciding on whether i want o to use it or not. I had great results on EQ, so i was thinking of see what Deca could do. i still might just go with the ttokkyo EQ at 400mg .. i will think it out i have some time left to decide. i wont start my next cycle until july. I am going to altermate days bettwen taking the fina and winny also. i know it wont make a difference, but it is just good knowing i am constantly taking something in .. lol
 
Your gonna get hooked on the fina Bro....why not add a bit of EQ with the fina and winny...just take a little something to curb the eating habits....

Ranger
 
Thanks RANGER, i will be using the EQ again, instead of the deca. i used ultragan last time i am going to try the ttokkyo this time..
 
uummmmmmmmm
 
*Ranger* said:
Your gonna get hooked on the fina Bro....why not add a bit of EQ with the fina and winny...just take a little something to curb the eating habits....

Ranger
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This is very true & excellent advice IMO.
 
wow thanks for all th response

Ok now a new question ....whats better 200mg of deca Vs. 200mg of EQ
or do you need more EQ than deca to get results
 
Go with 300 to 400mg's per week of the EQ....100mg's EOD at a minimum....Upping the Deca dosages is playing roid roulette....heh heh heh....I thought that was a nice touch....don't you 2Thick...???

Ranger
 
I'm wanting to do an EQ & winny cycle. Since so many are so hot on EQ, why is it that every list I get has Deca on it but not EQ? I would think it wouldn't be so hard to find.
 
Hey board, what's your opinion on these two? I have Nor is the same as deca right?
Anyway I want to start next Monday... should I trade my Nor for EQ???
 
deca gave [my dog] more mass.. but deca shuts [my dog] down like no other.. both are good.. I'm going to make sure [my dog] runs EQ/dbol instead of deca for his next cycle..
 
just my personnel opinion,when administering deca within two weeks i get the worst case of limp dick or just a wet noodle!so a buddy of mine said to try EQ,i did and i got a tremendous pump,...now eq is the only product i use with prop.::fro:
 
I think if you have never tried deca then you should. It is a good drug. There are some water gains and it is rough on HPTA and libido, but deca is great for bulking (plus you should be adding test for best results anyway). If you want to cut more then use EQ.
 
Retabolil2 said:
Damn Eq is only 50mg per 1ml! It really sucks:bawling:
I prefer to use Organon yellow tops :D
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So what??
I have used as much as 1050mg a week of the stuff......thats 21ml a week.
The price is great, so what´s the deal???
Are you afraid of needles??
 
I have used QV EQ at 400mg wk and I have used the norma's at 400mg a week in diff cycles and I would have to go with the DECA! It gave me alot more strenth and mass but of course russle was not stading at attention all the time.
 
Test/Deca got me thick... you could see the swole everywhere: neck, face, shoulders, chest, etc. Deca was a fucker to come off of too, I looked like shit for months after.

Test/EQ... I'm on it right now. HARDNESS everywhere, none of that "swollen" look like I had from Deca.
 
I read recently that 50% deca plus 50% Equipoise gives better gains than 100% of either separately (with test in both cases) due to synergistic action. What I am finding at the moment seems to suggest it's true. Does anyone have any info on this?
However, I'll probably discontinue the Deca about 4 weeks before the end of the cycle because of its suppressive action, replacing it with additional Equipoise, to get quicker hpta recovery.
 
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after using both, i would have to lean towards E.Q. Less "obvious" weight,size,mass gains, but there is something to said for slow,steady and keepable. For me anyway, the strength aspect is comparable for either. i guess it's goal dependant.
 
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