Epistane cycle advice first time

[ricky_bobby7]

bump

 

[Fishak]

Yes, you can run both brands together. Imo, your dosing really high. For me, epi over 50mg the sides increase and results do not. I have found 40-50mg for 6 weeks is the optimum sweet zone for me.

 

[Fishak]

I just ordered some hcgenerate will i be ok starting that halfway through the cycle since it wont get here for awile and just run a natty test booster until it arrives? How would you split the doses throughout the day for the epi and the support supps?

I really appreciate you guys helping me out, theres alot of knowledge and experience on this site.

Also i have epistrong from mr supps and a bottle of ep stane from dynamic formulas those are both compatible to run together because the have the exact same chemical compound correct? If these questions sound dumb so be it i just want to get my shit straight for this one. Thanks guys

Yes, run the testbooster from the start. Add hcgenerate the moment you receive it.

here is an example epi cycle that I have ran in the past successfully.


weeks 1-6

Epi 40, 40, 40, 50, 50, 50. Take half in the am/pm

Hcgenerate 3caps am 2caps pm.

Joint supplement. (do not forget this)

N2guard 3caps am, 4caps pm

Start forma on week 5. 3-5 pumps am 3-5 pumps pm

Pct (4 weeks)

Unleashed 2 caps am, 2 caps pm
Postcycle 2 caps am, 2caps pm
Daa
forma 5 pumps am, 5 pumps pm
Clomid 25, 25, 25, 12.5

 

[ricky_bobby7]

Thanks fishak thats good to know because i would have split the dose into three and taken one mid afternoon but that makes it easier! So i'm assuming no difference with taking the pm dose before or after workout.

I would love to do the 40 and 50mg weeks but the epi i have is in 15mg capsules (slightly inconvenient), dylan suggested to run it a bit higher but i'll probably see how i'm doing in the 45mg range then decide whether to up it or not.
Is the clomid totally necessary i've heard before it can cause problems with libido and erections?

 

[Fishak]

I dose in the am and pm just to keep it simple. Epi takes about 3 weeks to really kick in for me. I believe epi has a 8-10 hr halflife (again, I think) so dosing am and pm should be acceptable.
With 15 mg caps try

45, 45, 45, 45, 60, 60

If you have manageable sides and wanna bump it to 75 thats your call. Listen to you body, not me. For me @ 60mg I got more lethargy and back/calf pumps and no extra gains. The only way is to find out for yourself though.

 

[Fishak]

I use a low dose of clomid and get no sides from it. Epi is an estrogen killer but once you come off there is a good chance the you estrogen will want to rebound. I take the route that I feel is best for me. Dylan is the king of pct's (and one of the smartest dudes here) and allways gives good data on pct's ive been using his pct 'methods'ever since he recommended it to me 18 months ago.

 

[ricky_bobby7]

Alright thanks alot man a couple last questions 1. is it better to take the epi before or after meals full stomach or empty and 2. How much time between taking the epi should i take the hcgenerate forma and cycle support like 3 hours after?

Also what were your results from the epi cycle you did?

 

[Fishak]

I take it in the morning with a shake most days and before bed.

For me I use epi for a recomp tool. Meaning I am at or below maintenance kcals and usually try to add a few lbs of muscle while slowly removing fat. Its actually hard for me to properly accomplish. Last summer I gained and retained about 5-8lbs while losing a few lbs of fat.

I am in pct now. Ran epi for 6 weeks and gained about 7 lbs with no noticable fat loss or gain. I am very happy with these modest results.

 

[ricky_bobby7]

Alright guys another question came up. If i'm running 45mg a day which is 3 caps would it be best to take 2 in the morning and 1 in the evening or take 1 cap 3 times a day like i've been doing? Which do you guys think is the most effective while keeping blood levels the most steady?

 

[Fishak]

I would do it in the morning when your natty (soon to be suppressed) test levels would be the highest.