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My EF brothers!! What's up fellas!? I've been busy as hell this last year, I'm sorry I haven't been on the forum as much, but this place was and always will be my internet bodybuilding home!

Now, I need YOUR HELP! I have a new product coming out and I need a good image for the label! I am willing to pay $100 + 2 FREE bottles of this new product. I am in a hurry, so please help! SEND ME A PM!

Other than that, life is good! Feel free to use this thread to ask me questions as well. ;)
 
So is it like Gear?

No, those are amino tabs, these are actual protein pills. Here is some info:

-Are you TIRED of consuming multiple daily PROTEIN SHAKES?
-Are you TIRED of being gassy and bloated from PROTEIN SHAKES?
-Are you TIRED of wasting hundreds of dollars per year on overpriced, ineffective POWDER?

GONE are the days of messy and inconvienent powders that leave you gassy and bloated! No more annoying mixtures and emergency trips to the bathroom! It is my greatest pleasure to usher in a new era of protein consumption, I introduce to you: PROTEIN POPPERS, by Supreme Sports Enhancements!


Problems with Whey: Why Whey Protein ALONE is INFERIOR!


The SERIOUS issue with Whey protein is that it only increases protein synthesis for a very small duration of time! Whey only increases protein synthesis for 1-2 hours, whereas sources like Casein and EGG cause increases for up to 6-8 hours! The total net anabolic effect is significantly greater! Having said that, all of your shakes should contain multiple amino sources, NOT just Whey.

Protein POPPERS are going to change the way that you consume protein in order to meet your daily requirements! Protein POPPERS contain a precise blend of amino acids from the highest quality sources on the planet, making Protein POPPERS more effective than standard Whey Protein shakes! A FULL SPECTRUM protein containing a combination of WHEY, CASEIN, AND EGG is superior to WHEY alone. Each of these proteins provides different features that function synergistically to create additional benefits and an overall more effective protein. Our exclusive protein tablets contain a sepcial and PATENTED form of protein known as *PeptoPro(Casein Hydrosylate) as well as a full spectrum amino acid forumla, derived from Whey Isolate, Egg, and Casein!
 
Ross, I had no idea you were the man behind the SSE company. Good for you dude. I do alot of design work, and I love the font (I use it as well) for the Omnibolic bottle. Very cool.
 
Ross, I had no idea you were the man behind the SSE company. Good for you dude. I do alot of design work, and I love the font (I use it as well) for the Omnibolic bottle. Very cool.

Thanks Rick! I've seen some of your work as well, very entertaining stuff man! I would like to work with you soon.
 
Hey Ross ,Good to see you back, I'm a freelance artist however some serious health issues in my family keeps me from making some samples for you to review,maybe next time.:(
 
My EF brothers!! What's up fellas!? I've been busy as hell this last year, I'm sorry I haven't been on the forum as much, but this place was and always will be my internet bodybuilding home!

Now, I need YOUR HELP! I have a new product coming out and I need a good image for the label! I am willing to pay $100 + 2 FREE bottles of this new product. I am in a hurry, so please help! SEND ME A PM!

Other than that, life is good! Feel free to use this thread to ask me questions as well. ;)


i bought alot of vicodene :)

lsat year, what other products do u have big ross?
 
Not sure if this will sell. Depends on the price. This type of product is better suited for a store and not the net. (I could be wrong)
Plainly put it looks like a whole lot of salesmanship and lack of a viable product. I think Gear is way too similar and it makes me question whether there is a need on the market. What really sets it apart from other products? What is the retail price?
 
Not sure if this will sell. Depends on the price. This type of product is better suited for a store and not the net. (I could be wrong)
Plainly put it looks like a whole lot of salesmanship and lack of a viable product. I think Gear is way too similar and it makes me question whether there is a need on the market. What really sets it apart from other products? What is the retail price?

Our Protein POPPERS contain MULTIPLE amino sources; PeptoPro, Whey protein isolate, Egg, and Casein. Did you read that part? Do you know what PeptoPro is?

Protein POPPERS are FAR superior to a standard Whey protein shake, that's the point. Not to mention, far more convenient! :)

One dosage will provide 15-30g protein, depending on goals.
 
Hey Ross ,Good to see you back, I'm a freelance artist however some serious health issues in my family keeps me from making some samples for you to review,maybe next time.:(

then why did you have me photoshop that thing for you awhile back? lol
 
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I know this was attempted a while back, was wondering if it would ever come to light again. The problem your going to face is cost, and effectivess against current products per volume. But since your not seeking advice in that respect ... for marketing I have an image and scheme in mind for it. I really dont think the web is going to be your best market place but the ones who will be attracted to it are not gonna be your vets so my idea surrounds a younger crowed and your not as hardcore lifters. If the product isnt shit the vets will sell it to themselves. let me know if your intrested i dont design with computers im a sketch artist but it could be converted digitally.
 
Ross,

I'm not against designing this for you but I need to talk to N2 first. Since I pretty much work exclusively for him I would hate to bite the hand that feeds me as he pays me very well.
 
People must be tired of consuming friggin protein shakes ALL THE TIME. They are messy, inconvenient, and make your fart constantly. Furthermore, the protein blend contained in Protein POPPERS is far more effective than Whey alone!

Need2 will carry it in his store soon and so will Orbit(and all other retailers).
 
To be honest bro I think the shake deal is soo routine it just doesnt seem to be that bad. And I cant speak for others but my post work out shake is somthing I look foward to.... its like an oasis but thats me. For the right price and the right backing Id pick it up strictly for conveince... dont get me worng the idea is great but there are some missing details that will make or break it. I promise you tho the younger crowed will be your initial money maker not the vets....
 
To be honest bro I think the shake deal is soo routine it just doesnt seem to be that bad. And I cant speak for others but my post work out shake is somthing I look foward to.... its like an oasis but thats me. For the right price and the right backing Id pick it up strictly for conveince... dont get me worng the idea is great but there are some missing details that will make or break it. I promise you tho the younger crowed will be your initial money maker not the vets....

These aren't (just)for PWO, they are for ALL PURPOSE protein supplementation. I already have pre-orders out the ass, it's not even a question, it's a hit.
 
People must be tired of consuming friggin protein shakes ALL THE TIME. They are messy, inconvenient, and make your fart constantly. Furthermore, the protein blend contained in Protein POPPERS is far more effective than Whey alone!

Need2 will carry it in his store soon and so will Orbit(and all other retailers).

But i love them protein farts ross.. i never want them to stop :(
 
I get they are all purpose i was just speaking to a specific time in which it would or could replace the shake. I couldnt care less which one is better, and I hope it is a hit and it works. The price per bottle and how long each bottle will last compared to a jug of mix is all i was waiting for...
 
No, those are amino tabs, these are actual protein pills. Here is some info:

-Are you TIRED of consuming multiple daily PROTEIN SHAKES?
-Are you TIRED of being gassy and bloated from PROTEIN SHAKES?
-Are you TIRED of wasting hundreds of dollars per year on overpriced, ineffective POWDER?

GONE are the days of messy and inconvienent powders that leave you gassy and bloated! No more annoying mixtures and emergency trips to the bathroom! It is my greatest pleasure to usher in a new era of protein consumption, I introduce to you: PROTEIN POPPERS, by Supreme Sports Enhancements!


Problems with Whey: Why Whey Protein ALONE is INFERIOR!


The SERIOUS issue with Whey protein is that it only increases protein synthesis for a very small duration of time! Whey only increases protein synthesis for 1-2 hours, whereas sources like Casein and EGG cause increases for up to 6-8 hours! The total net anabolic effect is significantly greater! Having said that, all of your shakes should contain multiple amino sources, NOT just Whey.

Protein POPPERS are going to change the way that you consume protein in order to meet your daily requirements! Protein POPPERS contain a precise blend of amino acids from the highest quality sources on the planet, making Protein POPPERS more effective than standard Whey Protein shakes! A FULL SPECTRUM protein containing a combination of WHEY, CASEIN, AND EGG is superior to WHEY alone. Each of these proteins provides different features that function synergistically to create additional benefits and an overall more effective protein. Our exclusive protein tablets contain a sepcial and PATENTED form of protein known as *PeptoPro(Casein Hydrosylate) as well as a full spectrum amino acid forumla, derived from Whey Isolate, Egg, and Casein!
You are dead wrong about gear bro its not just a bcaa it is way way way more then this.


Protein is one of the best – and worst – understood macronutrients in the bodybuilding world. Every bodybuilder knows they need at least a gram of protein per pound of bodyweight, but very little is understood about the quality of protein. That’s like telling someone they need to drive 100 miles to get to your house, but not telling them what direction! Proteins are just long chains built up from “links” of various individual amino acids. Some of
those links are like titanium: essential amino acids. Other links are more like regular old iron: non-essential amino acids. .Joining two amino acids together
with each other forms a dipeptide, three joined togetherform a tripeptide, etc…Once we get 50 amino acids all joined together, we have a protein – the
chain made from all of the little links.


If we were making a chain, we want it to be strong, right? In fact, if we could, we’d want to make the entire chain from titanium. Well, it’s the same when we look at a chain of amino acids…we want it to be made from high quality links. This is because the ratio of one amino acid to another determines the overall quality (or strength) of the chain. The highest quality, most anabolic protein sources all have an amino acid chain that is most
closely associated with natural human protein.

Gear is advanced protein delivery system And Nutrition octane booster. When you take 2-4 capsules of Gear with your meals, it not only provides you with valuable, high quality aminos, serum proteins, and fractionated whey, it also provides you with the bioactive enzymes your body needs to convert that protein into muscle. It’s like taking a pill that turns every meal into a high-quality protein shake!


Once in the body, protein is broken back down into smaller peptides (dipeptides, tripeptides, etc…) and individual amino acids in the gastrointestinal tract, after which they’re sent to the liver, kidney and eventually the blood, thereby raising blood plasma levels of amino acids – and when those get high enough, we see increased protein synthesis, which results in the accrual of muscle tissue. This is an anabolic effect – the
building up of new muscle tissue. As you can see, that the processing and digestion (breaking down) of proteins back into aminos is very important. If you’re not digesting your protein, then your body isn’t going to use it - which is exactly why we at Need2BuildMuscle.com formulated Gear with loads of high quality digestive enzymes, like Aminogen and Bromelein.

GEAR uses a concentrated form of protein that is both ENLARGED and FRACTIONED. In other words, each amino molecule not only encompasses more space, it’s split into “micro molecules” which essentially increases the bio-availability ten-fold! A single gram of protein become more like TEN grams of super protein! On top of this gear uses the power of super plasma blood serum protein.

super plasma blood serum protein, Studies have shown that test animals fed a comparable calorie diet with Super Plasma Serum grew an average of 20% LARGER than those on a diet without it. How can that be? Because Super Plasma Serum is the protein that already exists in the blood plasma. It’s instantly recognized as “useable”. It’s like adding blood to your blood, there’s no conversion -- whatever you add is “more”. That’s what happens with Super Plasma Serum. It’s essentially instant muscle! And since the actual amino molecule of SPS is FOUR TIMES LARGER than that of meat, egg or whey protein it can be dispersed over a greater area of the intestines, allowing for maximum nitrogen dispersion. The extraordinary growth potential from Super Plasma Serum may also be due to the fact that it contains the highest IGF-1 level of any natural food source. This is the closest thing to actual “injectable aminos”, which the pros have been using for years, BUT AT A FRACTION OF THE COST. Super Plasma Protein is protein isolate and made from hydrolyzed beef plasma. Because of its high concentration of bioactive proteins, peptides, and potent amino acid profile, this protein has been used to increase growth in multiple animal studies.


When we look at proteins, we want to make sure the chains are made from as many high quality links as possible, because once the protein is in your body, your body breaks it back down into those same links, and uses it to produce more muscle. Proteins are in a constant state of synthesis, being built up and broken down. And if you’re breaking them down at an accelerated rate, with intense weight training, you need to replenish them at
an increased rate as well. But when you go to the local hardware
store to buy a chain, you can ask them how strong it is (its tensile strength).
This tells you how much pressure the chain can take before it snaps. But try
going to a restaurant and asking about the amino acid chains in their chicken
cordon blue. They’ll look at you like you’re crazy! Most bodybuilders can
rattle off the exact amount of protein in a glass of milk or a 6 oz. steak, but they have no idea about the quality of that protein or the rate at which there body will absorb this protein. That’s a huge mistake, and it’s like buying a chain without knowing what it’s made of. Who cares if it’s 50 feet long, if it’s made of paper?

Scientists have figured out a way to measure protein quality, just like they’ve figured out ways to figure out how strong different metals are. Protein Efficiency Ratio, or P.E. R. was one of the earliest ways they used to gauge the quality of various proteins. It was based on dividing body mass gains versus the amount of ingested protein: As you might expect milk protein rates very highly, while corn, oats and other plant sourced
proteins rank poorly.





Biological Value (B.V.) is another method used for determining the quality of various proteins. This method basically looks at the amount of protein consumed versus the amount excreted, with the logic that the rest of the protein is being retained by the body.As you probably expect, milk is ranked very highly in this system as well, while corn,potatoes and wheat are still ranked poorly.




Hold your jaw in place as you read what you are about to feast your eyes on. CHICKEN BLOOD PLASMA PROTEINS: PHYSICOCHEMICAL, NUTRITIONAL AND FUNCTIONAL PROPERTIES - RIO DE REYS - 2006 - Journal of Food Science - Wiley Online Library .

I have attached the pdf file of the complete study for the hard core gear heads, however its simple enough for anyone to understand what they are looking at. Blood serum proteins have a Digestibility above 90% and a protein efficiency ratio (PER) of 2.8! . THE HIGHEST SCORE EVER. In fact off the charts. But the power of blood serum protein does not stop there. Read the next part.

"Addition of plasma to wheat flour for bread making at 2.5 and 5% levels raised the PER of bread from 0.87 to 1.67 and 2.02, respectively."

EXACTLY!!!!!! It just hit you didn't it? The fun is not over.

The problem with BV is that it doesn’t tell us how much of that protein is being digested adequately, only that it’s not being excreted. It also doesn’t tell us Neither of these two protein measurement systems are widely used any longer, because they’ve given way to another measure of protein quality, known as the protein-digestibility amino acid score (PCDAAS). This is the most accurate method of ranking various proteins, and it’s the one
currently being used by scientists and doctors. This score ranks the essential amino acid content of various proteins and compares them with amino acid requirements in humans.The amino acid that is represented most poorly is found to be the limiting amino acid (the weakest link of our chain), and that system ultimately determines which protein sources provide the most abundant supply of amino acids that match human protein needs. And
of course, this isn’t just science, it’s what we see in the real world too, isn’t it. How many people get huge by eating wheat protein? Nobody. As you can see from this chart, the stuff that ranks the most highly is the stuff that makes all of the top bodybuilders huge –whey protein, beef, eggs, and milk:

But now what? What about when we add gear? Now you get huge of everything!



Of course, nobody eats a meal of just one food, right? People combine their foods at meal time, and if they’re smart about it, they can make some of those poor quality proteins into better ones. This is why we always see vegetarians combining certain plant-based foods; rice and beans, for example. Rice is deficient in several aminos that beans have in abundance. The amino acid profile in one of the foods is lacking, and the aminos from the
other food makes up for it. This strategy of combining foods is exactly what we’re doing with Gear, from NeedtoBuildMuscle.com – we’ve included Branched Chain Amino Acids as well asamino rich superfoods like Super Plasma Protein, a protein isolate made from hydrolyzed blood plasma proteins.

This strategy of combining foods is exactly what we’re doing with Gear, from
NeedtoBuildMuscle.com

With Gear, you can have a peanut butter sandwich, which isn’t a great source of quality protein, and the digestive enzymes will insure that you’re processing every single gram, and the BCAAs, Super Plasma Protein, and Whey Protein Isolates will “fill in” the missing aminos. It’s like every peanut butter sandwich, every slice of pizza, and every piece of French toast becomes a whey protein shake! Unfortunately, a banana split is always going to have a lot of fat and sugar, but with Gear, at least it’ll also have a lot of
high quality protein as well.


So we basically need two things from our proteins:
1. We need to be able to process these proteins and break them down into amino acids, i.e. we need them to be digestible.
2. We need to have the proper amino acid ratio, i.e. we don’t want to be limited by missing aminos.


Way back in the dark ages of bodybuilding supplementation the idea of taking protein pills or Bcaa'a was a pretty good one – pop a few pills here and there and get extra aminos. The old timers, with limited resources, committed to this tactic and got pretty good results. But at best, each pill was barely a gram of protein and it’s so much easier to get 30 grams from a modern protein shake. So protein pills fell out of favor. What we’ve done is mix some old school thinking with state of the art technology!

GEAR uses concentrated forms of protein that are both ENLARGED and FRACTIONED. In other words, each amino molecule not only encompasses more space, it’s split into “micro molecules” which essentially increases the bio-availabilty ten-fold! So a single gram of protein become more like TEN grams of protein. A few grams of Bcaa's now becomes thousands of grams. Ready at a moments notice and able to give you both protein and Bcaa's in a enhanced state every second of the day all throughout the day. The old concept of taking bcaa's pre and post work out, and through out the day has now been smashed. The long since forgotten Ideas of taking protein pills has been brought back to life. The concept of injecting bcaa's has been made plausible once again.

The concept is simple – not unlike amino acid tablets but FAR more concentrated, FAR more potent, and FAR more effective. It’s actually on par with injectable amino acids. But it’s portable, its feasible, its doable, its not your daddies protein pill or bcaa's. Its The future and its now.

Anyone who uses steroids knows that they work by increasing nitrogen (protein) retention. But few people realize exactly what that entails.

Without getting overly technical, protein basically passes through the intestines after which, it’s absorbed into the small intestine and eventally, the bloodstream. At that point it travels throughout the body into the various muscles and glands. When protein is needed the intestines grabs what’s available. THAT’S THE KEY! It isn’t so much the “amount” of protein you eat, it’s what’s “available “ at any given time.

Once can take a a large protein shake at any time and add some SPP and get in more protein out of that shake at the time they are drinking that shake. And by all means this is a great concept. Getting more out of your protein is always a plus. But what about the rest of the day.

More often than not, the opportunity for muscle growth is lost because, even though you ingested a lot of protein, it wasn’t “ready to go” at the time when it was needed. The metabolic process waits for no man. Your body is constantly shifting between anabolic and catabolic.

Any hard core body builder. Anyone who is serious about building muscle, who is Killing it in the gym every day. Any one serious about smashing past there plateaus. Anyone with any experience, who knows anything at all will tell you that every second of the day counts, and every advantage you can get makes all the difference. The difference between making that next rep or not. The difference in adding that extra chain link or not. The difference in reaching ones goals today, tomorrow or next year.

And Gear makes up that difference. You cant drink off a protein shake all day long. Lord knows you cant inject Bcaa's every hour on the hour. Bcaa's are a great concept but even if you took them all day long they still would not even come close to the gear's super high powered portable bcaa,protein octane boosting, catabolism preventing concept!!!!!!

If one where to add gear or even spp to just there protein shakes they would already be getting a advantage. Getting more out of your protein shake is a great Idea. But for the hard core not even that is enough.

In any given day we take in a set amount of protein. We all know the math , its been put out to the masses over and over. 1 gram, 1.5grams, even 2 grams of protein per pound body weight a day. Thous of us trying to gain muscle know every gram of protein counts. Often racking our brains on ideas of how to get in more protein.

How many of you have said the words " I just cant eat any more" "I just cant take another protein shake or I'll barf".

Imagine if you didn't have to? Imagine if you didn't have to add yet another shake? Imagine if you didn't have to force feed another 10 oz of chicken or hold back barfing to get down another 6oz of beef?

Imagine if you will, being able to take the 1. gram of protein per pound of body weight you are already eating now and instantly turn it into 2 or even 3 grams of protein per pound of body weight. All with out having to take even one more single bite!!!

For the 185lb man trying to reach 200 or the 200lb man trying to reach 230lb that would be amazing wouldn't it? Of course it would and now its real. Now you can.

200x1=200 grams Now if I add another protein shake before I go to bed . Then I add in 6 more oz of steak with dinner,another 3-5 egg whites with breakfast, a couple cans of tuna through out the day, and a extra oz of chicken to lunch I think I can hit my mark of 250g or 275g of protein.

We are all on the quest to get bigger, faster, stronger and to do that we all need more protein. If you ask anyone right now if they could take all the protein that they eat in one day and double it. Double it with out having to add another bite and with out having to double there calories how many would say no?

[COLOR*********]No one would say no to that and that is what gear does. That it why you need gear![/COLOR]

All it takes is 3-4 caps of gear with every meal and instantly you have taken your 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight and turned it into 1.5 grams . Tak 6-8 caps of gear with every meal and now you have made and now you have made your 1 gram for every pound into 2 grams.

No matter if you are trying to bulk or cut you need gear. Because gear can give your body the extra protein it need all with out having to add a single meal or hundreds of calories.

Non of use can eat every hour, every second of the day, and even if we could who would want to. More often than not, the opportunity for muscle growth is lost because, even though you ingested a lot of protein, it wasn’t “ready to go” at the time when it was needed.

But now, with GEAR, you’ll have that protein available at ALL TIMES. You will have protein available at all times and you will double your protein intake without taken another single bite. Who can say no to that. NO ONE!!!!


Gear is here ant its not your daddies protein pill!! Its not just another BCAA, its not just SPP. Its taking every once of protein you eat from every source you take in, INTO THE HIGHEST GRADE PROTEIN ON THE PLANET!


That statement may sound like a lot of hype but it’s absolutely true and we stand behind it. Nothing… I mean NOTHING, is a better protein source than GEAR. We made sure of it.

Here’s How It Works GEAR contains…

SUPER PLASMA SERUM:

This is the main ingredient in GEAR and anyone familiar with this stuff will tell you it’s nothing short of miraculous. Studies have shown than test animals fed a comparable calorie diet with Super Plasma Serum grew an average of 20% LARGER than those on a diet without it. How can that be? Because Super Plasma Serum is the protein that already exists in the blood plasma. It’s instantly recognized as “useable.” It’s like if you added blood to your blood, there’s no conversion -- whatever you add is “more.” That’s what happens with Super Palsma Serum. It’s essentially, instant muscle! And since the actual amino molecule of SPS is FOUR TIMES LARGER than that of meat, egg or whey protein it can be dispersed over a greater area of the intestines, allowing for maximum nitrogen dispersion. The extrodinary growth potential from Super Plasma Serum may also be due to the fact that it contains the highest IGF-1 level of any natural food source. This is the closest thing to actual “injectable aminos” which the pros have been using for years, BUT AT A FRACTION OF THE COST.

Now, Super Plasma Serum isn’t cheap. It goes for up to 60 bucks a pound! That’s why so few companies use it in their protein drinks. It’s too damn expensive and most people don’t know the difference! But GEAR is geared for the discriminating bodybuilder. Other companies use as much as 10% SDBP in For there SPP in some of there protein shakes.

Gear contains the highest grade (SDBP) on the planet. wich contains greater than 95% protein. emerging research has shown that a significant amount (75-80%) of the
proteins found in (SDBP) resist the digestive process. These proteins are
actually transported intact to the lower G.I. (intestines) where they exert
vital specific activities. Collectively these are named "bioactive proteins".

The bioactive protein composition of gear is greater than 50 percent
immunoglobulins (IgA, IgG and IgM). Additionally, gear contains significant
amounts of the anabolic growth factor IGF-1 and the immunoregulatory cytokine
TNF-ß. Interestingly, The SDBP In gear is very similar in composition to bovine colostrum,
the milk-like substance produced in the first 36 - 72 hours after calving. In
fact, you could consider Gear's serum plasma protein to be the precursor to colostrum.
The big difference though is that the ingredients in gear contain much higher concentrations and a more consistent compositions of the vital bioactive proteins,Fractionated peptides and bcaa's then those found in colostrum.


HYDROLYZED PROTEIN CONCENTRATE:

This is another form of protein used back in the days when serious bodybuilders would use anything in order to grow. It was called “pre-digested “ protein, with good reason. The essential aminos are already broken down so it requires no digestion. It enters the intestines instantly, allowing for immediate use. It was great stuff and worked well. There was just one problem. It tastes like rancid cleaning fluid! I mean, really, REALLY horrible. It’s pretty much impossible to get down. But since it’s in a capsule form, taste isn’t an issue. You get the full benefit of this incredible protein source directly into your stomach unfiltered in any way.

GEAR also includes…

BRANCH CHAIN AMINO ACIDS:

Protein has many functions but it’s the BCAA’s that are directly related to muscle growth. It’s the BCAA’s that convert into glutamine, which is the main amino in muscle tissue. So why doesn’t GEAR contain glutamine? Because it is so poorly absorbed orally! Whenever you use glutamine you’re wasting 99% of it! The body was designed to convert glutamine from BCAA’s which is why we use the highest quality peptide bonded BCAA’s with a hefty L-leucine laden dosage into GEAR. It’s pure muscle growth without waste.

WHEY FRACTION PEPTIDES:

This is a revolutionary amino acid complex containing high concentrations of Lactoferrin and Immunoglobulins in a “fractioned” base, allowing for the aminos to “split and separate.” Remember, the intestines act like a huge sponge ready to take in protein. “Normal” protein globulins are like single shots, here and there whereas FRACTIONED aminos is a like a SHOTGUN, spraying a much wider area and allowing for more muscle growth. By creating “sub-particals” of nitrogen, the amount of surrounding protein (from other food sources) is dispersed and magnified. This is a breakthrough potential muscle building technology.

And just as an additional kicker, we added…

Aminogen and Bromalain. Bromalain is a natural enzyme known to aid in the absorption of protein. Aminogen helps liberate free form aminos from whole food sources. So when you take GEAR it’ll boost the protein and muscle building capabilities from both the supplement and the food you eat!

How to use GEAR.

GEAR is incredibly versatile. It can be use five ways.

In-between meals – to insure a constant flow of nitrogen to your muscles.

Pre-workout – to prevent catabolism while training.

Post workout __ to fuel starved, overworked muscles fast!

Plus, it’s especially useful in enhancing the muscle building capabilities of any meal !

This may be the biggest advantage to GEAR. Let’s say you’re on the run and all you can grab is a slice of pizza. Pop a handful of GEAR and instead of a junk food snack, it’s a power keg of protein power meal! Each cap equals 1000mgs of amino acids but since GEAR is up to FOUR TIMES as potent, 5 caps is like 20 grams of whole food protein! Suddenly a slice of pizza has the muscle building potential of an 10oz steak! Ya gotta admit…THAT, is pretty awesome.


As I said before imagine if you could double your daily protein intake without having to take another bite, Without having to double your calories!!!!!!!! That is exactly what gear can do!!



Don’t let the name throw you. We’re not saying this product works like a steroid. The name GEAR is to imply “a necessary tool.” Even when using enhancement, you can’t grow without protein. It’s the catalyst…always. And the more the better. When you use GEAR, you just increased your chances to grow more muscle, and grow it faster by doubling even tripling your daily protein intake all with out having to eat till you barf.

So if you want the biggest anabolic advantage you can get…you need to get some GEAR.
studies attached..

gear is a advanced protein dilivery system and octain booster of all other proteins you consume through out the day.
 
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Gear is the only way to go, nothing comes close. I've heard of this new popper wave and it sounds like another scheme to empty peoples wallets further for a bunch of hocus pocus pills! If it works and contains everything it's suppose to then maybe it will be a good source however the new protein powders and post cycle therapy that's out now is state of the art , when it comes to research and development! I for one have been lifting for years and have switched different brands of creatine , post workout protein drinks and post cycle therapy cycles numerous times, until I tried Needtos product line! His post work out drink Muscle Replenisher and creatine are unmatched in quality and effectiveness. I know from experience that the old protein whey just made it to your gut and sat there! Muscle Replenisher works totally different for me in the fact that I gain no excess unusable weight from it! I know for a fact that Needto has a chemist on staff that is constantly tweaking and enhancing his products! I also use HcGenerate and N2guard as part of my post cycle treatment! HcGenerate is the only thing I will ever use to get my test levels back and trust me ! I've tried clomid, HGH to no avail. Bottom line is that I use and trust Needtos product line and I for one will never change!
 
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I'm sorry but gear is the way to go, originally to start with.
I mean, look at the comparisons between the two, and I am trying to be nice and unbisased.
SUPER PLASMA SERUM!! Thats just one component and its concentrated form more than whats inside of BigBlast from proteinfactory.com
Quallity components. ..just sayin
 
No, those are amino tabs, these are actual protein pills. Here is some info:

-Are you TIRED of consuming multiple daily PROTEIN SHAKES?
-Are you TIRED of being gassy and bloated from PROTEIN SHAKES?
-Are you TIRED of wasting hundreds of dollars per year on overpriced, ineffective POWDER?

GONE are the days of messy and inconvienent powders that leave you gassy and bloated! No more annoying mixtures and emergency trips to the bathroom! It is my greatest pleasure to usher in a new era of protein consumption, I introduce to you: PROTEIN POPPERS, by Supreme Sports Enhancements!


Problems with Whey: Why Whey Protein ALONE is INFERIOR!


The SERIOUS issue with Whey protein is that it only increases protein synthesis for a very small duration of time! Whey only increases protein synthesis for 1-2 hours, whereas sources like Casein and EGG cause increases for up to 6-8 hours! The total net anabolic effect is significantly greater! Having said that, all of your shakes should contain multiple amino sources, NOT just Whey.

Protein POPPERS are going to change the way that you consume protein in order to meet your daily requirements! Protein POPPERS contain a precise blend of amino acids from the highest quality sources on the planet, making Protein POPPERS more effective than standard Whey Protein shakes! A FULL SPECTRUM protein containing a combination of WHEY, CASEIN, AND EGG is superior to WHEY alone. Each of these proteins provides different features that function synergistically to create additional benefits and an overall more effective protein. Our exclusive protein tablets contain a sepcial and PATENTED form of protein known as *PeptoPro(Casein Hydrosylate) as well as a full spectrum amino acid forumla, derived from Whey Isolate, Egg, and Casein!


Interesting. However from my end, I want something that is only going to have a short life in my system. That is what I use the occassional for. As a supplement, where as what your product sounds like is more of a food replacement type product. I use supplements, for just that... to supplement my real food intake. For me to get the most out of your product, I would have to still take in some carbs or healthy fats along with it. So in a nutshell, I would still be stuck eating.

I do use GEAR for my protein synthesis, immediately upon waking in the mornings and pre workout and it has performed awesome. I have a log on here that has all my results back when it first came out.
 
The best way to get all type of protein is with natural real food. After that, there's only on product in the market that can put in your body what no other supplement can do: GEAR. I didn't create it, I don't know the science behind it, but I would never stop using it or replacing it. The results with GEAR are day and night. Weather you are on cycle or not, GEAR is highly anabolic.
 
I've used pretty much every BCAA / protein supp out there and i'll tell you this , gear is the DADDY ! 4 pills before and after i workout ,whether i'm on juice or not - this for me is a MUST .
A concentrated form of highest quality protein when i most need it :evil: - thats why i buy it 4 bottles at a time ..lol

When i read needto's post it reminds me of the serious thought and effort that went into the product - HOLY SHIT !!!
Days when i am not training i take 4 caps of gear upon waking and 4 caps before bed :artist:

But Whey shakes still have their place in my diet too.( coz i love them protein farts )
 
gear is by far the way to go! pound for pound its the champ .. not bein bias but you gotta admit needto puts a lot into every product he designs makeing sure it meets gold standard . I've used his products plenty of time with great results haven't fail me yet like other companies that tend to over hype thier products go deep in your pockets with no satisdfaction to the consumer I think we all been there so I stick with what I know needtobuildmuscle GEAR is it!!! ain't no BUNK SHIT HERE!!!!
 
Gear seems to have the poppers beat already.

I can make a protein shake blend with Egg, Whey and Casein. I would drink something like that before bed.

AAP is right too. For a longer lasting protein, I would eat a steak or some whole food. Shakes and other supps are just that: supps. You take a shake when you have a spot to fill where eating would be less convenient or impossible.

I take shakes between meals to get in extra protein, not to tide me over for another 4-6 hours. I can't imagine not eating for 6 hours unless I was sleeping.

For what you described, sounds like gear is already the winner.
 
Gear for me all the way and no looking back.
It simply works and does what it says it will do.
Nuff said...
 
I've used pretty much every BCAA / protein supp out there and i'll tell you this , gear is the DADDY ! 4 pills before and after i workout ,whether i'm on juice or not - this for me is a MUST .
A concentrated form of highest quality protein when i most need it :evil: - thats why i buy it 4 bottles at a time ..lol

When i read needto's post it reminds me of the serious thought and effort that went into the product - HOLY SHIT !!!
Days when i am not training i take 4 caps of gear upon waking and 4 caps before bed :artist:

But Whey shakes still have their place in my diet too.( coz i love them protein farts )

Take advantage of the 20% off sale we got going on my man. Makes Gear nice and cheap as well as super powerful :qt::qt:
 
No, those are amino tabs, these are actual protein pills. Here is some info:

-Are you TIRED of consuming multiple daily PROTEIN SHAKES?
-Are you TIRED of being gassy and bloated from PROTEIN SHAKES?
-Are you TIRED of wasting hundreds of dollars per year on overpriced, ineffective POWDER?

GONE are the days of messy and inconvienent powders that leave you gassy and bloated! No more annoying mixtures and emergency trips to the bathroom! It is my greatest pleasure to usher in a new era of protein consumption, I introduce to you: PROTEIN POPPERS, by Supreme Sports Enhancements!


Problems with Whey: Why Whey Protein ALONE is INFERIOR!


The SERIOUS issue with Whey protein is that it only increases protein synthesis for a very small duration of time! Whey only increases protein synthesis for 1-2 hours, whereas sources like Casein and EGG cause increases for up to 6-8 hours! The total net anabolic effect is significantly greater! Having said that, all of your shakes should contain multiple amino sources, NOT just Whey.

Protein POPPERS are going to change the way that you consume protein in order to meet your daily requirements! Protein POPPERS contain a precise blend of amino acids from the highest quality sources on the planet, making Protein POPPERS more effective than standard Whey Protein shakes! A FULL SPECTRUM protein containing a combination of WHEY, CASEIN, AND EGG is superior to WHEY alone. Each of these proteins provides different features that function synergistically to create additional benefits and an overall more effective protein. Our exclusive protein tablets contain a sepcial and PATENTED form of protein known as *PeptoPro(Casein Hydrosylate) as well as a full spectrum amino acid forumla, derived from Whey Isolate, Egg, and Casein!

1st of all this is wayyy to similar to GEAR.on top of that no way is peptopro better then super plasma blood serum Protein bro..thats the whole reason i started using gear is that ingredient ..i could go into this further but just that alone makes gear a much better product
 
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Maybe this protein popper is pretty good. I don't know. Maybe the sales pitch will work on the commercial crowd. But trying to push it here is like asking to pitch against Babe Ruth, picking a fight with Mike Tyson, or going one on one with Michael Jordan. In other words, you're outclassed bro.

GEAR made its debut here and those who've used it know it's in a league of its own. Maybe some day we'll spread to a bigger market, (which takes tons of advertising money, which means raising the price which we don;t want to do) but in the meantime, what others are missing out on is EF's gain.

It's not an opinion. GEAR contains super plasma serum and fractionated protein -- two things that make it a whole different type of supplement. Poppers may be good proein -- maybe better than most amino tabes, but it's still a whole food source whereas GEAR is a concentrated source of pre-digested protein chains comparable to injectable aminos. It's like comparing an ally cat to a lion.

But good luck with your product bro. Keep pushing. Just, not here.
 
Maybe this protein popper is pretty good. I don't know. Maybe the sales pitch will work on the commercial crowd. But trying to push it here is like asking to pitch against Babe Ruth, picking a fight with Mike Tyson, or going one on one with Michael Jordan. In other words, you're outclassed bro.

GEAR made its debut here and those who've used it know it's in a league of its own. Maybe some day we'll spread to a bigger market, (which takes tons of advertising money, which means raising the price which we don;t want to do) but in the meantime, what others are missing out on is EF's gain.

It's not an opinion. GEAR contains super plasma serum and fractionated protein -- two things that make it a whole different type of supplement. Poppers may be good proein -- maybe better than most amino tabes, but it's still a whole food source whereas GEAR is a concentrated source of pre-digested protein chains comparable to injectable aminos. It's like comparing an ally cat to a lion.

But good luck with your product bro. Keep pushing. Just, not here.




BAM!!!! This ^^^^^
 
No, those are amino tabs, these are actual protein pills. Here is some info:

-Are you TIRED of consuming multiple daily PROTEIN SHAKES?
-Are you TIRED of being gassy and bloated from PROTEIN SHAKES?
-Are you TIRED of wasting hundreds of dollars per year on overpriced, ineffective POWDER?

GONE are the days of messy and inconvienent powders that leave you gassy and bloated! No more annoying mixtures and emergency trips to the bathroom! It is my greatest pleasure to usher in a new era of protein consumption, I introduce to you: PROTEIN POPPERS, by Supreme Sports Enhancements!


Problems with Whey: Why Whey Protein ALONE is INFERIOR!


The SERIOUS issue with Whey protein is that it only increases protein synthesis for a very small duration of time! Whey only increases protein synthesis for 1-2 hours, whereas sources like Casein and EGG cause increases for up to 6-8 hours! The total net anabolic effect is significantly greater! Having said that, all of your shakes should contain multiple amino sources, NOT just Whey.

Protein POPPERS are going to change the way that you consume protein in order to meet your daily requirements! Protein POPPERS contain a precise blend of amino acids from the highest quality sources on the planet, making Protein POPPERS more effective than standard Whey Protein shakes! A FULL SPECTRUM protein containing a combination of WHEY, CASEIN, AND EGG is superior to WHEY alone. Each of these proteins provides different features that function synergistically to create additional benefits and an overall more effective protein. Our exclusive protein tablets contain a sepcial and PATENTED form of protein known as *PeptoPro(Casein Hydrosylate) as well as a full spectrum amino acid forumla, derived from Whey Isolate, Egg, and Casein!

I'll try it out if I think the price is reasonable.
 
Maybe this protein popper is pretty good. I don't know. Maybe the sales pitch will work on the commercial crowd. But trying to push it here is like asking to pitch against Babe Ruth, picking a fight with Mike Tyson, or going one on one with Michael Jordan. In other words, you're outclassed bro.

GEAR made its debut here and those who've used it know it's in a league of its own. Maybe some day we'll spread to a bigger market, (which takes tons of advertising money, which means raising the price which we don;t want to do) but in the meantime, what others are missing out on is EF's gain.

It's not an opinion. GEAR contains super plasma serum and fractionated protein -- two things that make it a whole different type of supplement. Poppers may be good proein -- maybe better than most amino tabes, but it's still a whole food source whereas GEAR is a concentrated source of pre-digested protein chains comparable to injectable aminos. It's like comparing an ally cat to a lion.

But good luck with your product bro. Keep pushing. Just, not here.

How much you want to bet ross is making calls to get Bovine blood serum protein into his product right now to make it a true gear rip off product? Good luck getting anything other then Beef bovine. If anyone bothers to take notice this is not the only bovine NTBM uses. But I will save this tid bit for when some one really does go for the full all our rip off of the product. I will also use that as my Q to roll out with the New Gear+ we have designed and ready to go nelson :evil::evil::evil: We could add the other ingredients you and I talked about and even a little extra. Still keep it in the same size cap and the same dosing . I would also be able to eat the cost and keep the price the same. We will do this if the time comes when we need to step it up again... HAR HAR HAR Always a step ahead of the game always!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Sounds like a wannabe Gear but there really is no comparison. So I guess that takes it out of the running. I'll happily stick with Gear. I agree with Nelson as far as pushing it here. Gear is much superior to the ingredients in this product in many ways.

Stick with NeedToBuildMuscle.net products!!! They are the creators and innovators of these amazing products that others want to imitate. But honestly can't come close.

Gear is a must have for all. I love and swear by it.
 
Thread fail for multiple reasons, including trying to market a product without permission and pretending that the target crowd is a commercial diluted hyped-fed crowd.
 
Thread fail for multiple reasons, including trying to market a product without permission and pretending that the target crowd is a commercial diluted hyped-fed crowd.

Ross is not known for being a business man or by playing by the rules. Not a bad guy, but selling stuff just to sell them and not contributing to the community is eventually seen to be phony by even the newbs.
 
Guys, although I do appreciate everyone's skepticism and feedback, I only started this thread to obtain a graphic image for the label. ;)

Having said that, GEAR and Protein POPPERS are nothing alike, as Need2 pointed out. Gear is a super-pill, Protein POPPERS are just pills containing the highest quality proteins that are easy to consume and more convenient than shakes.

However, we do have plans to release a SUPER PLASMA PROTEIN product as well, we are currently working with Protein Factory. ;)
 
Guys, although I do appreciate everyone's skepticism and feedback, I only started this thread to obtain a graphic image for the label. ;)

Having said that, GEAR and Protein POPPERS are nothing alike, as Need2 pointed out. Gear is a super-pill, Protein POPPERS are just pills containing the highest quality proteins that are easy to consume and more convenient than shakes.

However, we do have plans to release a SUPER PLASMA PROTEIN product as well, we are currently working with Protein Factory. ;)

What are you working on next a natural version of HCG?
 
Even if someone discovers a mushroom that mimics the effects of A-Bombs......If NTBM aint sellin it - I aint buyin it ! :)

My reasons are LOYALTY and also the fact they are field tested and proven to be top quality products with a money back guarantee.
And as if that was'nt enough , the man himself will help any of the bro's on here with any questions/problems.
IMO it just don't get any better than that .

Just sayin.
 
Even if someone discovers a mushroom that mimics the effects of A-Bombs......If NTBM aint sellin it - I aint buyin it ! :)

My reasons are LOYALTY and also the fact they are field tested and proven to be top quality products with a money back guarantee.
And as if that was'nt enough , the man himself will help any of the bro's on here with any questions/problems.
IMO it just don't get any better than that .

Just sayin.

good man!! huge k hit to u
 
We've got a lot more than that. BUt just so you know, there is a MUSHROOM known as Cordyceps that has reecently been shown to mimic LH and HCG. ;)

Ya you are behind the 8ball on that one 2 bro. Its already been included in the next Mrsupps.com product to be released within the next month or two. Triforce-Mass our brand new Chewable lightning bolt tabs. Bubble gum flavor :qt::qt::biggrin::biggrin:

This will be a intro work out product that includes a lot more then just the LH increase but this has been added to it.


ATP Mass - A Dietary Supplement
90 servings per bottle
Amount per Serving
ATP IAdenosine-5 - Triphosphate Disodium Salt 100 mgs -
Naringin 25 mgs
Lecithin 25 mgs -
Alpha-Zein (from com protein) 25mgs -
Magnesium (from magnesium oxide) 5 mgs
Rhodiola rosea (Rosavins (3%)) 75mg
Yerba Mate powdered (Leaf) 25mg
grape seed extract 50mg
Cordyceps 20% 200mg
Ashwagandha 75mg
creatine pyruvate 300mg ( must be creatine monohydrate molecularly bonded to pyruvate.)
L-Ornithine Alpha Ketoglutarate (OKG) 300mg
L-Arginine Alpha Ketoglutarate 300mg
Beta-Alanine 300mg
L-Histidine 300mg
A-KIC (Arginine Ketoisocaproate)25mg
GKG (Glutamine Alpha-Ketoglutarate)50mg
yohimbine hcl 1mg
Vitamin B6 (As Pyridoxine Hydrochloride)3mg
Vitamin B12 (As Methylcobalamin)2mg
folic acid 400mcg
biotin 10mg
Glycyrrhizin (Glycyrrhizia Sp.) (Root)25mg
Vitamin D (as Cholecalciferol)3 IU
Calcium (as Calcium Carbonate, Calcium Citrate,
Calcium Aspartate) 75mg

this is the beta phase of the product and what its shaping up to. there will be 3 full doses of this per day in each bottle. Cool little chewable tabs:qt::qt: starting with a bubble gum flavor, prob a strawberry banana , and lemonade flavor to go with it. I was waiting till much later to announce this products debut but since you brought it up now is a better time then any...


Why Supplement During Training
Intra-workout supplements are designated to be taken during a workout to enhance performance and provide energy and amino acids to your muscles. Normally the process of training will lead to a catabolic state of the body. Training leads to drops in muscle glycogen, less hydration, a decline in amino acid levels will lead to inferior performance. In order to perform at maximum potential the body must be replenished to return maximum power output. As mentioned many times when cortisol sky rockets, testosterone drops by almost 40% which can be detrimental to muscle and health as well. There are many ways to take care of cortisol during training as well electrolyte balance, glycogen, ATP, minerals/vitamins, muscle tissue and hydration. Two supplements come into mind when for intra supplement purposes, Gear and NTBM’s new intra sublingual chewables. I am going to break down why these two supps come strong in protecting muscles during training.


ATP
ATP also known as adenosine-5'-triphosphate is a multifunctional bond of molecules used within cells as a coenzyme. It is the major energy exchange of the cell which provides the energy for almost all of the energy-usage activities of the cell. ATP transports chemical energy within cells for metabolism. It is synthesized by photophosphorylation and cellular respiration. ATP is used by enzymes and structural proteins in many cellular processes, including biosynthetic reactions, motility, and cell replication. ATP consists of adenosine composed of an adenine ring and a ribose sugar and three phosphate groups. ATP can be produced by reduced reactions using simple and complex carbohydrates or lipids as an energy source. For ATP to be synthesized from complex fuels, they first need to be broken down into their basic components. Carbohydrates are hydrolysed into simple sugars, such as glucose and fructose. Fats (triglycerides) are metabolised to give fatty acids and glycerol. This process is called glycolysis. Another way in which ATP is synthesized is through cellular respiration within the mitochondrial cells of the body. ATP increases alertness by activating nerve impulses which can be extremely beneficial to athletes who compete. ATP is also responsible for maintaining cell volume through osmosis. ATP is vital for en durance athletes since it lets the body know when oxygen needs to produced due to lack of it within the muscle tissues. For years athletes have taken creatine to produce more ATP within the muscles, but lately companies have released products with actual ATP. The problem with oral ATP is that stomach acids destroy it before it can be synthesized in the liver. However; if taken sublingually, it will be transported to the blood through the saliva enzymes. This is why NTBM made their intra-product as a sublingual chewable; we want the user to receive the maximum potential of ATP. This now brings us to the next ingredient in NTBM’s new chewable sublingual intra supplement

Creatine Pyruvate
If you have experienced the power of this raw from Ancient Strength, then wait till you try it in sublingual form. Creatine pyruvate is molecule that combines both creatine monohydrate (67-8%) and pyruvic acid (40%). The percentage exceeds 100% because of the conversion factor of creatine monohydrate into creatine pyruvate. Both creatines are impressive ergogenic aid enhancers and have been highly praised for building muscle while lowering body fat percentage. The performance-enhancing effects of creatine monohydrate and pyruvate are combined for the to boost of energy and endurance which is much needed during a workout. Creatine restores the main energy supply instantly available to muscles occupied in short, powerful contractions aka power output. Creatine pyruvate has been shown to buffer lactic acid quite well. Increasing creatine intake through the pyruvate bond allows muscle to go for prolonged periods of time. Pyruvate stimulates glucose release from blood into muscle tissues during exercise and even at rest. Creatine Pyruvate is also noted to be ten times more soluble than either Creatine or Pyruvate and it is also more bioavailable; so that it takes less to do the job. Here is a that shows creatine pyruvates ergogenic capabilities:
“This increase is accompanied by a significant increase in force (p<0.001) and relaxation velocity (p<0.01) in the Cr-Pyr group. e effect of Cr-Pyr resulted from an increased contraction and relaxation speed and is accompanied by enhanced oxygen consumption and blood flow. Cr-Pyr reduces fatigability during all following intervals. The improvement results from an increase in contraction velocity during all intervals and an increase in relaxation velocity [31]. This suggests ADP or Pi levels are reduced and ATP re-synthesis is increased during exercise, which should lead to an increased VO2. In fact, the improvement in performance is accompanied by an increase in muscular VO2 measured during the breaks. there are some studies showing that VO2 during exercise is unaffected [9], or the VO2- kinetics is even slowed down after creatine supplementation [44] and oxygen consumption after exercise of high intensity or during breaks is unchanged [45]. The observed results suggest additional pyruvate benefits in the Cr-Pyr group. The role of pyruvate supplementation might be to decrease the relative inhibition on aerobic glycolysis due to elevated creatine phosphate and ATP levels. It may also be reflective of a more rapid regeneration of ATP and reduction in the inorganic phosphate increase, allowing for higher intracellular calcium ion concentration, permitting the higher frequency contraction and relaxation. Cr-Pyr supplementation significantly increases mean power in high intensity exercise. Cr-Pyr intake significantly increases force and decreases fatigability during all intervals due to an enhanced contraction and relaxation velocity. The performance with Cr-Cit decreases with time and improvements were not significant during the later intervals. Further research is required to exam the mechanism of decreasing fatigue during intermittent exercise of high intensity observed with Cr-Pyr intake.” (http://www.jissn.com/content/pdf/1550-2783-5-4.pdf) There you have it folks, creatine pyruvate is the real deal! This whyMrsupps.coms new Intra supplement had to include it!



Cordyceps S. CS4
Cordyceps helps increase stamina, energy levels, and endurance through increasing ATP levels as well. It’s also been used as a herbal medicine in helping respiratory issues along dysfunctional immune systems. There are individuals who also use to help them fight off cancer which shows how potent Cordyceps capabilities are. It increases ATP through increasing mitochondrial cell count which allows muscle tissue to have more intake of oxygen, making it ideal for power output athletes that will need continuous spurts of ATP such as powerlifters, Football Players and MMA fighters. Cordyceps has also been shown to act like HCG in increasing testosterone. Both hCG and LH also take 3 hours to reach their optimal effect. What’s more, the LH molecule is a protein-sugar chain – a glycoprotein – and it’s the sugar part that attaches to the LH receptor. It seems that cordyceps contains sugars or glycoproteins that resemble LH and imitate the way it works. The substance found in Cordyceps that does boost testosterone, makes it through the digestive canal, and the undamaged cordyceps works better than the specific extracts.



Rhodiola Rosea controls stress AND increases ATP

More AMPK means more mitochondria, more fat burning and an increased uptake of glucose by the muscles. You can prevent diabetes-2 by getting more physical exercise, and physical exercise also stimulates that same AMPK. Because some people can’t be bothered with exercise, some are now pinning their hopes on the scientific search for an effective AMPK boo

Many natural medicine practitioners have used Rhodiola rosea for years to treat diabetes-2, high blood pressure, chronic fatigue and respiratory disturbances.
Chinese researchers exposed rats’ muscle cells in test tubes for 90 minutes to salidroside an active substance in Rhodiola rosea.
The salidrosides in rhodiola triggers muscle cells to absorb more glucose. This ability to strore more glucose in more muscles, means more glycogen. More glycogen means less cortisol again, not sure if you are seeing a pattern to these ingredients, and their ability to prevent huge releases in cortisol through glycogen retention. Here is an extract showing positive effects of Rhodiola intake:

“ Acute Rhodiola rosea intake can improve endurance exercise performance. De Bock K, Eijnde BO, Ramaekers M, Hespel P.
Faculty of Physical Education and Physiotherapy in the Exercise Physiology and Biomechanics Laboratory at the Katholieke Universiteit Leuven, Tervuursevest 101, B-3001 Leuven, Belgium.

Abstract
PURPOSE: The purpose of this study was to investigate the effect of acute and 4-week Rhodiola rosea intake on physical capacity, muscle strength, speed of limb movement, reaction time, and attention.
METHODS: PHASE I: A double blind placebo-controlled randomized study (n= 24) was performed, consisting of 2 sessions (2 days per session). Day 1: One hour after acute Rhodiola rosea intake (R, 200-mg Rhodiola rosea extract containing 3% rosavin + 1% salidroside plus 500 mg starch) or placebo (P, 700 mg starch) speed of limb movement (plate tapping test), aural and visual reaction time, and the ability to sustain attention (Fepsy Vigilance test) were assessed. Day 2: Following the same intake procedure as on day 1, maximal isometric knee-extension torque and endurance exercise capacity were tested. Following a 5-day washout period, the experimental procedure was repeated, with the treatment regimens being switched between groups (session 2). PHASE II: A double blind placebo-controlled study (n = 12) was performed. Subjects underwent sessions 3 and 4, identical to Phase I, separated by a 4-week R/P intake, during which subjects ingested 200 mg R/P per day.
RESULTS: PHASE I: Compared with P, acute R intake in Phase I increased (p <.05) time to exhaustion from 16.8 +/- 0.7 min to 17.2+/- 0.8 min. Accordingly, VO2peak (p <.05) and VCO2peak (p<.05) increased during R compared to P from 50.9 +/- 1.8 ml x min(-1) x kg(- )1 to 52.9 +/- 2.7 ml x min(-10) x kg(-1) (VO2peak) and from 60.0 +/- 2.3 ml x min(-1) x kg(-1) to 63.5+/- 2.7 ml x min(-1) x kg(-1) (VCO2peak). Pulmonary ventilation (p =.07) tended to increase more during R than during P (P: 115.9+/- 7.7 L/min; R: 124.8 +/- 7.7 L/min). All other parameters remained unchanged. PHASE II: Four-week R intake did not alter any of the variables measured.
CONCLUSION: Acute Rhodiola rosea intake can improve endurance exercise capacity in young healthy volunteers. This response was not altered by prior daily 4-week Rhodiola intake.”
Magnesium
Oral magnesium can cause serious stomach discomfort since it’s not that soluble, it also gets destroyed by stomach acids. I for one get the runs after intaking oral magnesium, however sublingual magnesium does not give the same side effects as oral magnesium. This is the main reason why we chose to include it in the intra supplement. Magnesium is a vital mineral/vitamin and important electrolyte. It prevents muscle spasms from forming through relaxing the muscles/nerves. It gets heavily depleted during training from the sweat one’s glands release from preventing the body from overheating. This is why it’s so common to see people get cramps when playing sports or lifting weights, they don’t have time at the moment to drink a sports beverage. Magnesium works in combination with other electrolytes to maintain hydration and proper muscle function. Magnesium is very demanded by the heart to help with the contractions the heart takes on to pump blood throughout the body, including muscles. Magnesium also aids in digestion of macro nutrients which leads to more glycogen uptake, glycogen allows the muscles use glucose as fuel during training to prevent cortisol from eating away at the muscles. Magnesium also has been documented to boost both total and free testosterone. Free testosterone is crucial for muscle and strength since it’s the actual useable testosterone needed for anabolism. It is able to free up testosterone by SHBG modulation, here is excerpt demonstrating magnesium’s effect on free testosterone and SHBG’s:
“A biochromatographic approach is developed to measure for the first time thermodynamic data and magnesium (Mg2+) effect for the binding of testosterone (TT) to sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG) in a wide temperature range. For this, the SHBG was immobilized on a chromatographic support. It was established that this novel SHBG column was stable during an extended period of time. The affinity of TT to SHBG is high and changes slightly with the Mg2+ concentration because the number of Mg2+ linked to binding is low. The determination of the testosterone retention with the steroid hormone at different Mg2+ concentrations and temperatures demonstrated that the Mg2+ binding heat effect associated with this Mg2+ release or uptake during this binding was in magnitude around 17 kJ/mol corresponding to the model describing the electrostatic attraction that occurs between the negatively charged non specific areas of SHBG and the positively charged of magnesium. At all the magnesium concentrations studied, the ΔH values were negative due to van der Waals interactions and hydrogen bonding which are engaged at the complex interface confirming strong TT–SHBG hydrogen bond networks. As well, the ΔS values were all positive due to hydrophobic forces in the testosterone–SHBG complex formation. In addition our results suggest that adaptive conformational transitions contribute to the specific testosterone–SHBG complex formation. As well, in the biological Mg2+ concentration domain, it was clearly demonstrated that there was an uncompetitive inhibition of Mg2+ on TT–SHBG binding which led an enhancement of bioavailable TT. Our work indicated that our biochromatographic approach could soon become very attractive for study other SHBG–steroid (or phytoestrogen) binding.”( Journal of Pharmaceutical and Biomedical Analysis, doi:10.1016/j.jpba.2008.10.041)
Electrolytes impact on training
As mentioned before electrolytes play a key role in hydration and muscle contraction. Just like magnesium, both Potassium and Sodium are needed for the heart to function at its maximum potential. If you have too little or too much of both of these electrolytes, it can be dangerous, if highly excessive it leads to death. Since the kidneys process potassium, potassium just like sodium should be taken in small increments. This method allows your body to utilize the electrolytes without over stimulating your heart or kidneys. As we all know too much salt causes bloating which leads to high blood pressure. Both potassium and water counter the effect to balance things out. I always recommend water with electrolytes to aid the kidneys in getting rid of the excess electrolytes. Besides Magnesium, sodium and potassium are the two most secreted electrolytes from sweat which is why NTBM intra supplement includes these two electrolytes along the wonder mineral/electrolytes magnesium.
Vitamin B-12
This Vitamin plays a major role in the production of blood; because of this factor it augments the effectiveness of ATP. When there is more ATP in the body, more blood is carried to the muscle which in turn buffers lactic. When ATP and Vitamin B-12 are taken at the same time it has a more prolific effect on muscular endurance than creatine which has been used for this purpose from the beginning. Vitamin B-12 also makes an ideal addition to an intra supplement because of its anti-chronic fatigue fighting properties, this why patients with anemia take Vitamin B12 on a daily basis. Vitamin B-12 gives you much cleaner energy than stimulants without the crash while allowing you to have a better sleep pattern. This is makes it the perfect workout enhancer for a late night lifting session. Studies show that patients who took B-12 during the trial had less occurrences of waking up during bed rest. Vitamin B-12 is also beneficial in aiding production of endogenous ATP through electron exchange in the cytochrome oxidase transfer. Researchers have noticed that when B-12 is used sublingually the delivery is much more potent which is why NTBM uses B-12 in this form.



SO there you have it!!!!! As always We are on top of things :biggrin::biggrin::evil: But thanks for giving me the platform to announce the new product on Ross!!!!!
 
Ya you are behind the 8ball on that one 2 bro. Its already been included in the next Mrsupps.com product to be released within the next month or two. Triforce-Mass our brand new Chewable lightning bolt tabs. Bubble gum flavor :qt::qt::biggrin::biggrin:

This will be a intro work out product that includes a lot more then just the LH increase but this has been added to it.


ATP Mass - A Dietary Supplement
90 servings per bottle
Amount per Serving
ATP IAdenosine-5 - Triphosphate Disodium Salt 100 mgs -
Naringin 25 mgs
Lecithin 25 mgs -
Alpha-Zein (from com protein) 25mgs -
Magnesium (from magnesium oxide) 5 mgs
Rhodiola rosea (Rosavins (3%)) 75mg
Yerba Mate powdered (Leaf) 25mg
grape seed extract 50mg
Cordyceps 20% 200mg
Ashwagandha 75mg
creatine pyruvate 300mg ( must be creatine monohydrate molecularly bonded to pyruvate.)
L-Ornithine Alpha Ketoglutarate (OKG) 300mg
L-Arginine Alpha Ketoglutarate 300mg
Beta-Alanine 300mg
L-Histidine 300mg
A-KIC (Arginine Ketoisocaproate)25mg
GKG (Glutamine Alpha-Ketoglutarate)50mg
yohimbine hcl 1mg
Vitamin B6 (As Pyridoxine Hydrochloride)3mg
Vitamin B12 (As Methylcobalamin)2mg
folic acid 400mcg
biotin 10mg
Glycyrrhizin (Glycyrrhizia Sp.) (Root)25mg
Vitamin D (as Cholecalciferol)3 IU
Calcium (as Calcium Carbonate, Calcium Citrate,
Calcium Aspartate) 75mg

this is the beta phase of the product and what its shaping up to. there will be 3 full doses of this per day in each bottle. Cool little chewable tabs:qt::qt: starting with a bubble gum flavor, prob a strawberry banana , and lemonade flavor to go with it. I was waiting till much later to announce this products debut but since you brought it up now is a better time then any...


Why Supplement During Training
Intra-workout supplements are designated to be taken during a workout to enhance performance and provide energy and amino acids to your muscles. Normally the process of training will lead to a catabolic state of the body. Training leads to drops in muscle glycogen, less hydration, a decline in amino acid levels will lead to inferior performance. In order to perform at maximum potential the body must be replenished to return maximum power output. As mentioned many times when cortisol sky rockets, testosterone drops by almost 40% which can be detrimental to muscle and health as well. There are many ways to take care of cortisol during training as well electrolyte balance, glycogen, ATP, minerals/vitamins, muscle tissue and hydration. Two supplements come into mind when for intra supplement purposes, Gear and NTBM’s new intra sublingual chewables. I am going to break down why these two supps come strong in protecting muscles during training.


ATP
ATP also known as adenosine-5'-triphosphate is a multifunctional bond of molecules used within cells as a coenzyme. It is the major energy exchange of the cell which provides the energy for almost all of the energy-usage activities of the cell. ATP transports chemical energy within cells for metabolism. It is synthesized by photophosphorylation and cellular respiration. ATP is used by enzymes and structural proteins in many cellular processes, including biosynthetic reactions, motility, and cell replication. ATP consists of adenosine composed of an adenine ring and a ribose sugar and three phosphate groups. ATP can be produced by reduced reactions using simple and complex carbohydrates or lipids as an energy source. For ATP to be synthesized from complex fuels, they first need to be broken down into their basic components. Carbohydrates are hydrolysed into simple sugars, such as glucose and fructose. Fats (triglycerides) are metabolised to give fatty acids and glycerol. This process is called glycolysis. Another way in which ATP is synthesized is through cellular respiration within the mitochondrial cells of the body. ATP increases alertness by activating nerve impulses which can be extremely beneficial to athletes who compete. ATP is also responsible for maintaining cell volume through osmosis. ATP is vital for en durance athletes since it lets the body know when oxygen needs to produced due to lack of it within the muscle tissues. For years athletes have taken creatine to produce more ATP within the muscles, but lately companies have released products with actual ATP. The problem with oral ATP is that stomach acids destroy it before it can be synthesized in the liver. However; if taken sublingually, it will be transported to the blood through the saliva enzymes. This is why NTBM made their intra-product as a sublingual chewable; we want the user to receive the maximum potential of ATP. This now brings us to the next ingredient in NTBM’s new chewable sublingual intra supplement

Creatine Pyruvate
If you have experienced the power of this raw from Ancient Strength, then wait till you try it in sublingual form. Creatine pyruvate is molecule that combines both creatine monohydrate (67-8%) and pyruvic acid (40%). The percentage exceeds 100% because of the conversion factor of creatine monohydrate into creatine pyruvate. Both creatines are impressive ergogenic aid enhancers and have been highly praised for building muscle while lowering body fat percentage. The performance-enhancing effects of creatine monohydrate and pyruvate are combined for the to boost of energy and endurance which is much needed during a workout. Creatine restores the main energy supply instantly available to muscles occupied in short, powerful contractions aka power output. Creatine pyruvate has been shown to buffer lactic acid quite well. Increasing creatine intake through the pyruvate bond allows muscle to go for prolonged periods of time. Pyruvate stimulates glucose release from blood into muscle tissues during exercise and even at rest. Creatine Pyruvate is also noted to be ten times more soluble than either Creatine or Pyruvate and it is also more bioavailable; so that it takes less to do the job. Here is a that shows creatine pyruvates ergogenic capabilities:
“This increase is accompanied by a significant increase in force (p<0.001) and relaxation velocity (p<0.01) in the Cr-Pyr group. e effect of Cr-Pyr resulted from an increased contraction and relaxation speed and is accompanied by enhanced oxygen consumption and blood flow. Cr-Pyr reduces fatigability during all following intervals. The improvement results from an increase in contraction velocity during all intervals and an increase in relaxation velocity [31]. This suggests ADP or Pi levels are reduced and ATP re-synthesis is increased during exercise, which should lead to an increased VO2. In fact, the improvement in performance is accompanied by an increase in muscular VO2 measured during the breaks. there are some studies showing that VO2 during exercise is unaffected [9], or the VO2- kinetics is even slowed down after creatine supplementation [44] and oxygen consumption after exercise of high intensity or during breaks is unchanged [45]. The observed results suggest additional pyruvate benefits in the Cr-Pyr group. The role of pyruvate supplementation might be to decrease the relative inhibition on aerobic glycolysis due to elevated creatine phosphate and ATP levels. It may also be reflective of a more rapid regeneration of ATP and reduction in the inorganic phosphate increase, allowing for higher intracellular calcium ion concentration, permitting the higher frequency contraction and relaxation. Cr-Pyr supplementation significantly increases mean power in high intensity exercise. Cr-Pyr intake significantly increases force and decreases fatigability during all intervals due to an enhanced contraction and relaxation velocity. The performance with Cr-Cit decreases with time and improvements were not significant during the later intervals. Further research is required to exam the mechanism of decreasing fatigue during intermittent exercise of high intensity observed with Cr-Pyr intake.” (http://www.jissn.com/content/pdf/1550-2783-5-4.pdf) There you have it folks, creatine pyruvate is the real deal! This whyMrsupps.coms new Intra supplement had to include it!



Cordyceps S. CS4
Cordyceps helps increase stamina, energy levels, and endurance through increasing ATP levels as well. It’s also been used as a herbal medicine in helping respiratory issues along dysfunctional immune systems. There are individuals who also use to help them fight off cancer which shows how potent Cordyceps capabilities are. It increases ATP through increasing mitochondrial cell count which allows muscle tissue to have more intake of oxygen, making it ideal for power output athletes that will need continuous spurts of ATP such as powerlifters, Football Players and MMA fighters. Cordyceps has also been shown to act like HCG in increasing testosterone. Both hCG and LH also take 3 hours to reach their optimal effect. What’s more, the LH molecule is a protein-sugar chain – a glycoprotein – and it’s the sugar part that attaches to the LH receptor. It seems that cordyceps contains sugars or glycoproteins that resemble LH and imitate the way it works. The substance found in Cordyceps that does boost testosterone, makes it through the digestive canal, and the undamaged cordyceps works better than the specific extracts.



Rhodiola Rosea controls stress AND increases ATP

More AMPK means more mitochondria, more fat burning and an increased uptake of glucose by the muscles. You can prevent diabetes-2 by getting more physical exercise, and physical exercise also stimulates that same AMPK. Because some people can’t be bothered with exercise, some are now pinning their hopes on the scientific search for an effective AMPK boo

Many natural medicine practitioners have used Rhodiola rosea for years to treat diabetes-2, high blood pressure, chronic fatigue and respiratory disturbances.
Chinese researchers exposed rats’ muscle cells in test tubes for 90 minutes to salidroside an active substance in Rhodiola rosea.
The salidrosides in rhodiola triggers muscle cells to absorb more glucose. This ability to strore more glucose in more muscles, means more glycogen. More glycogen means less cortisol again, not sure if you are seeing a pattern to these ingredients, and their ability to prevent huge releases in cortisol through glycogen retention. Here is an extract showing positive effects of Rhodiola intake:

“ Acute Rhodiola rosea intake can improve endurance exercise performance. De Bock K, Eijnde BO, Ramaekers M, Hespel P.
Faculty of Physical Education and Physiotherapy in the Exercise Physiology and Biomechanics Laboratory at the Katholieke Universiteit Leuven, Tervuursevest 101, B-3001 Leuven, Belgium.

Abstract
PURPOSE: The purpose of this study was to investigate the effect of acute and 4-week Rhodiola rosea intake on physical capacity, muscle strength, speed of limb movement, reaction time, and attention.
METHODS: PHASE I: A double blind placebo-controlled randomized study (n= 24) was performed, consisting of 2 sessions (2 days per session). Day 1: One hour after acute Rhodiola rosea intake (R, 200-mg Rhodiola rosea extract containing 3% rosavin + 1% salidroside plus 500 mg starch) or placebo (P, 700 mg starch) speed of limb movement (plate tapping test), aural and visual reaction time, and the ability to sustain attention (Fepsy Vigilance test) were assessed. Day 2: Following the same intake procedure as on day 1, maximal isometric knee-extension torque and endurance exercise capacity were tested. Following a 5-day washout period, the experimental procedure was repeated, with the treatment regimens being switched between groups (session 2). PHASE II: A double blind placebo-controlled study (n = 12) was performed. Subjects underwent sessions 3 and 4, identical to Phase I, separated by a 4-week R/P intake, during which subjects ingested 200 mg R/P per day.
RESULTS: PHASE I: Compared with P, acute R intake in Phase I increased (p <.05) time to exhaustion from 16.8 +/- 0.7 min to 17.2+/- 0.8 min. Accordingly, VO2peak (p <.05) and VCO2peak (p<.05) increased during R compared to P from 50.9 +/- 1.8 ml x min(-1) x kg(- )1 to 52.9 +/- 2.7 ml x min(-10) x kg(-1) (VO2peak) and from 60.0 +/- 2.3 ml x min(-1) x kg(-1) to 63.5+/- 2.7 ml x min(-1) x kg(-1) (VCO2peak). Pulmonary ventilation (p =.07) tended to increase more during R than during P (P: 115.9+/- 7.7 L/min; R: 124.8 +/- 7.7 L/min). All other parameters remained unchanged. PHASE II: Four-week R intake did not alter any of the variables measured.
CONCLUSION: Acute Rhodiola rosea intake can improve endurance exercise capacity in young healthy volunteers. This response was not altered by prior daily 4-week Rhodiola intake.”
Magnesium
Oral magnesium can cause serious stomach discomfort since it’s not that soluble, it also gets destroyed by stomach acids. I for one get the runs after intaking oral magnesium, however sublingual magnesium does not give the same side effects as oral magnesium. This is the main reason why we chose to include it in the intra supplement. Magnesium is a vital mineral/vitamin and important electrolyte. It prevents muscle spasms from forming through relaxing the muscles/nerves. It gets heavily depleted during training from the sweat one’s glands release from preventing the body from overheating. This is why it’s so common to see people get cramps when playing sports or lifting weights, they don’t have time at the moment to drink a sports beverage. Magnesium works in combination with other electrolytes to maintain hydration and proper muscle function. Magnesium is very demanded by the heart to help with the contractions the heart takes on to pump blood throughout the body, including muscles. Magnesium also aids in digestion of macro nutrients which leads to more glycogen uptake, glycogen allows the muscles use glucose as fuel during training to prevent cortisol from eating away at the muscles. Magnesium also has been documented to boost both total and free testosterone. Free testosterone is crucial for muscle and strength since it’s the actual useable testosterone needed for anabolism. It is able to free up testosterone by SHBG modulation, here is excerpt demonstrating magnesium’s effect on free testosterone and SHBG’s:
“A biochromatographic approach is developed to measure for the first time thermodynamic data and magnesium (Mg2+) effect for the binding of testosterone (TT) to sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG) in a wide temperature range. For this, the SHBG was immobilized on a chromatographic support. It was established that this novel SHBG column was stable during an extended period of time. The affinity of TT to SHBG is high and changes slightly with the Mg2+ concentration because the number of Mg2+ linked to binding is low. The determination of the testosterone retention with the steroid hormone at different Mg2+ concentrations and temperatures demonstrated that the Mg2+ binding heat effect associated with this Mg2+ release or uptake during this binding was in magnitude around 17 kJ/mol corresponding to the model describing the electrostatic attraction that occurs between the negatively charged non specific areas of SHBG and the positively charged of magnesium. At all the magnesium concentrations studied, the ΔH values were negative due to van der Waals interactions and hydrogen bonding which are engaged at the complex interface confirming strong TT–SHBG hydrogen bond networks. As well, the ΔS values were all positive due to hydrophobic forces in the testosterone–SHBG complex formation. In addition our results suggest that adaptive conformational transitions contribute to the specific testosterone–SHBG complex formation. As well, in the biological Mg2+ concentration domain, it was clearly demonstrated that there was an uncompetitive inhibition of Mg2+ on TT–SHBG binding which led an enhancement of bioavailable TT. Our work indicated that our biochromatographic approach could soon become very attractive for study other SHBG–steroid (or phytoestrogen) binding.”( Journal of Pharmaceutical and Biomedical Analysis, doi:10.1016/j.jpba.2008.10.041)
Electrolytes impact on training
As mentioned before electrolytes play a key role in hydration and muscle contraction. Just like magnesium, both Potassium and Sodium are needed for the heart to function at its maximum potential. If you have too little or too much of both of these electrolytes, it can be dangerous, if highly excessive it leads to death. Since the kidneys process potassium, potassium just like sodium should be taken in small increments. This method allows your body to utilize the electrolytes without over stimulating your heart or kidneys. As we all know too much salt causes bloating which leads to high blood pressure. Both potassium and water counter the effect to balance things out. I always recommend water with electrolytes to aid the kidneys in getting rid of the excess electrolytes. Besides Magnesium, sodium and potassium are the two most secreted electrolytes from sweat which is why NTBM intra supplement includes these two electrolytes along the wonder mineral/electrolytes magnesium.
Vitamin B-12
This Vitamin plays a major role in the production of blood; because of this factor it augments the effectiveness of ATP. When there is more ATP in the body, more blood is carried to the muscle which in turn buffers lactic. When ATP and Vitamin B-12 are taken at the same time it has a more prolific effect on muscular endurance than creatine which has been used for this purpose from the beginning. Vitamin B-12 also makes an ideal addition to an intra supplement because of its anti-chronic fatigue fighting properties, this why patients with anemia take Vitamin B12 on a daily basis. Vitamin B-12 gives you much cleaner energy than stimulants without the crash while allowing you to have a better sleep pattern. This is makes it the perfect workout enhancer for a late night lifting session. Studies show that patients who took B-12 during the trial had less occurrences of waking up during bed rest. Vitamin B-12 is also beneficial in aiding production of endogenous ATP through electron exchange in the cytochrome oxidase transfer. Researchers have noticed that when B-12 is used sublingually the delivery is much more potent which is why NTBM uses B-12 in this form.



SO there you have it!!!!! As always We are on top of things :biggrin::biggrin::evil: But thanks for giving me the platform to announce the new product on Ross!!!!!
Gotta try this one too!
 
Gotta try this one too!

we are always on the cutting edge of things, or do our best to be. I have known about Cordyceps for a wile now and was going to add them to hcgenerate but went with coming out with a new and different supplement altogether for this one. Its a product that again like many of our products can be used by many people in many different ways. For example guys coming off cycle are going to love it because of the massive energy blast during work out they will get from it plus the added increase to LH that is needed post cycle.

Guys using it as stand alone are also going to love it for the same reasons. The products main design is for Intra work out but can also be taken Mornings and nights as well as intra work out too.
 
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