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Effects of Hulk Hogan's kid's accident- Vid
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OMG 
That's so sad.
That's so sad.
1999TL said:
I honestly believe that everything happens for a reason. I would imagine there is a reason for him not passing. Maybe to educate people.
Guys, how the fuck is that dude still alive?
Razorguns
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jesus christ how is he still alive? is he a vegetable? Personally rather be in a vegetable looking out in the world - just put me out of my misery already.
Damn, it's scary to think "If I was just innocently walking down the street" that night, Nick shitbag could've done that to me too.
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Damn, it's scary to think "If I was just innocently walking down the street" that night, Nick shitbag could've done that to me too.
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RottenWillow said:
I really don't know. But, for him to survive something like that, he's alive for a reason.
It is scary 
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GoldenDelicious
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medical science. lots of the bodys processes can be supported for short periods of time these days - in the past if something failed, you died. these days we can prop up your respiratory system, kidneys, heart, immune system etc for a little while and put you back together well enough for those bits to recover.RottenWillow said:
anyway that vid is shocking. id also have preferred to die on the spot and not subject those i love to having to deal with seeing that/living that
It is sad. But wouldn't you like to live for just a little more and help people out for the remainder of your life. I would.
I thnk mercy killing is still illegal in most places in the world.
Lestat said:
Easier said than done. God forbid it happens to someone you know, you would pray your heart out that they live so you can hold them one more day
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JumpBallWinner
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Man does anyone know if that's without question real? There's like no brain inside the head, and I have a hard time seeing them just leaving something like that open even if it was possible.
I usually get irritated when people yell "photoshop" or "fake" at remarkable photos/videos that get posted and I know could very well be possible, but this is just a little too much.
Are there any other pics etc out there? I'm going to search myself now.
I usually get irritated when people yell "photoshop" or "fake" at remarkable photos/videos that get posted and I know could very well be possible, but this is just a little too much.
Are there any other pics etc out there? I'm going to search myself now.
Creepusmaximus
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Let the dead die. Science is not your friend in this case.
No this guy has no service to perform, he is gone. His friends and family are worse off with him still being around. Sorry that's how I feel. I have a living will and I would rather someone just came by and shot me then to be like that.
When your gone your gone.
No this guy has no service to perform, he is gone. His friends and family are worse off with him still being around. Sorry that's how I feel. I have a living will and I would rather someone just came by and shot me then to be like that.
When your gone your gone.
Razorguns
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Creepusmaximus said:
I agree.
Can he even communicate? You can't tell me he is relaxing and taking it easy, and not in excruciating mental anguish and pain and frustration.
My worst nightmare in this world - is to one day lie in a coma, thinking, but unable to see or talk to communicate. It would be the most extreme type of torture imaginable. Thankfully my friends and family know to pull the damn plug immediately. Dying peacefully is better than slowly being tortured to death.
cue up that metallica song and video.
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Razorguns said:cue up that metallica song and video.
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=thytrWjbVpQ&feature=related
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Humble Pride
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That's simply sad and horrifying,...........................
Razorguns said:
Looks like his entire frontal lobe is gone. I don't think he's feeling anything at all.
bigmann245
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i have a living will that states i will not be put on life support if my injuries are that bad. his brain is gone there is no way he is going to come out of it.
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SaladFork
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the_alcatraz said:
The only reason he's not passing is so this kids parents can keep him alive to suck money out of the Hulk... No parent wants to see their kid in that state. It's people using a misfortunate situation to benefit themselves.
redsamurai
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SaladFork said:
unfortunately this is true. Hate to think Hogan is going to get taken to the cleaners cause of his shit bag son. I'd still love to know what exactly happened that night. Cause really, if you think about it........do you get in Nick Hogans car while you're BOTH drunk? And then go racing?? And then not put on your seatbelt?? I hate what happened to that kid and I hate Nick Hogan.........but there's some culpability here on the the kids part. I've been smashed off my ass and made the consciencious call to NOT drive. So I'm pretty sure that even smashed I wouldn't get in a high powered car with Nick Hogan knowing full well what kind of dude he is.
what do you expect them to do, kill him?
cindylou said:
cindylou said:
I wanted to fuckin cry when I saw it
gjohnson5
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Terri Shaivo got removed from life support because he husband was her guardian and she had no will. Hence he got to elect how to handle her care (which was not to and to let her die) Without the support of her family. Basically he won the money from her malpractice suit and then decided to pull the plug on her...
That to this day is still one of the most fucked up things I've seen
In the end her brain injury couldn't be fixed... But he didn't know that
That to this day is still one of the most fucked up things I've seen
In the end her brain injury couldn't be fixed... But he didn't know that
There are never good outcomes in situations like this.
its always best to have a living will, that way the family and the courts know your wishes.
maybe people like this can wake us up to the things we need to do to keep our familes from having to make decisons like these
its always best to have a living will, that way the family and the courts know your wishes.
maybe people like this can wake us up to the things we need to do to keep our familes from having to make decisons like these
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SaladFork
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the_alcatraz said:
redsamurai
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gjohnson5 said:
bro, correct me if I'm wrong........but wasn't she in that veg. state for years before he decided to pull the plug? I mean fuck.........I know he moved on and found another wife and everything. But I still don't find what he did "fucked up". He left her for a long time in that state and there was no progress. I have to beleive that she's grateful as sin to him for letting her move on........just my opinion.
gjohnson5
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If he wanted to move on , then give the malpractice money to her family and let them take care of her. Don't just pull the plug on her and KEEP the money for yourself while not even letting her family be in the room when she died...
He for selfish and self serving purposes did not let her family spend time with her and be a part of her care. How long she was in a coma isn't the issue.
He for selfish and self serving purposes did not let her family spend time with her and be a part of her care. How long she was in a coma isn't the issue.
redsamurai said:
redsamurai
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gjohnson5 said:
It kind of is bro. If that was your wife, wouldn't you rather her be able to move on rather than have her religious family keep her in a braindead coma for DECADES hoping for that miracle?? I'd want to be on life support for a certain period of time too just to see if my body could heal itself.........but there's a point where enough is enough.
It's not up to his family to decide whether or not he lives. They have no right to play God.
gjohnson5
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That's fine. Let's put hope in science , and let them try instead of killing people and running with the money. The other issue in that Shaivo case is that they had a fight (her and her husband) and it's still not clear if he himself delayed in calling the hospital while she laid on the bleeding
His spousal abuse was why she ended up getting a stroke in the first place....
His spousal abuse was why she ended up getting a stroke in the first place....
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SaladFork
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the_alcatraz said:
That is if you believe in god...
redsamurai
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gjohnson5 said:
did he strike her?? never heard this before. I guess this could be mitigating information. However, from a legal standpoint I could see how allowing this kind of stuff into the legal proceedings could get real murky. I still think the right thing was done.......no matter the guy's personal motives.
DannoMight
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I thought she had some type of illness that led to her condition. (schiavo) still her family should have gotten some if not most of her money.
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SaladFork
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I never heard about the hitting part...
from wikipedia
from wikipedia
gjohnson5
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http://www.apfn.org/apfn/Terri_abuse.htm
State-Funded Agency to Probe Claim of Spousal Abuse in Terri Schiavo Case
Bone scan and injuries indicate severe trauma and strangulation
TAMPA BAY, October 27, 2003 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Florida State Advocacy Center for Persons with Disabilities, has decided to launch an investigation into the spousal abuse claims of the parents of Terri Schiavo. The severely disabled Florida woman whose life was spared by an executive order by Governor Jeb Bush to halt her court-ordered starvation, has, according to experts, sustained injuries consistent with abuse.
Michael Schiavo, Terri's estranged husband, who has been in a long-fought court battle with Terri's parents to end her life, fuelled suspicions of abuse when he sought and was granted a court order that Terri's remains would be cremated immediately following her death. Terri's parents, the Schindlers, were requesting an autopsy.
Other factors pointing to abuse include:
- Testimony of nurses who looked after Terri indicated that Michael was verbally abusive to Terri and may have attempted to kill her by insulin injection and attempts to induce pneumonia by turning the thermostat in her room to 64 degrees.
- Michael Baden, one of the most acclaimed forensic experts in North America, in an interview on Fox News National Television broadcast Saturday said Terri's bone scan indicates that Terri's injuries are not consistent with the suggested explanation of a heart attack or potassium imbalance. He said they are consistent with severe trauma possibly caused by a beating and would warrant an immediate investigation.
- Dr. William Hammesfahr, Nobel prize nominee and neurologist, testified that Terri's neck injuries are consistent with only one type of injury: that of strangulation.
Commenting on the case, Alex Schadenberg of the Euthanasia Prevention Coalition said, "It would come as no surprise to me that she had been abused previous to her disability, knowing that since1993 she has received continuous abuse by being denied basic medical care, visitation of loved ones, religious visits, and any form of rehabilitation."
Schadenberg warned however that the practice of euthanasia by withdrawal of nutrition and hydration from people who are not otherwise dying is common both in the United States and Canada. He pointed out that the argumentation around the case is not addressing the central point that nutrition and hydration should not be considered medical treatment. He noted that a 1990 U.S. Supreme Court decision wrongly allowed nutrition and hydration to be considered medical treatment.
In response to the six-day denial of food and fluids to Terri Schindler-Schiavo, the National Right to Life Committee is calling on state legislatures throughout the nation to move to protect people with disabilities from being denied food and fluids. The organization has issued a "Model Starvation and Dehydration of Persons with Disabilities Prevention Act."
See the NRLC model legislation for States:
http://www.nrlc.org/euthanasia/modelstatelaw.html
Terri's supporters have also asked pro-lifers to encourage AARP to intervene to save Terri's life and not against it: [email protected]
See also
Media 'getting it wrong' on Terri Schiavo story
Press erroneously report she's 'comatose,' doctors also dispute vegetative-state ruling
** People who are aware of the truth are calling in to radio and television stations insisting that they correct the misinformation. For example, Toronto News radio station 680 was reporting last week that Shiavo was in a persistive vegetative state. LifeSite called to say that that was not correct. The news room immediately acknowledged the error and corrected it. This would not have happened had no one called.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35270
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2003/oct/03102701.html
State-Funded Agency to Probe Claim of Spousal Abuse in Terri Schiavo Case
Bone scan and injuries indicate severe trauma and strangulation
TAMPA BAY, October 27, 2003 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Florida State Advocacy Center for Persons with Disabilities, has decided to launch an investigation into the spousal abuse claims of the parents of Terri Schiavo. The severely disabled Florida woman whose life was spared by an executive order by Governor Jeb Bush to halt her court-ordered starvation, has, according to experts, sustained injuries consistent with abuse.
Michael Schiavo, Terri's estranged husband, who has been in a long-fought court battle with Terri's parents to end her life, fuelled suspicions of abuse when he sought and was granted a court order that Terri's remains would be cremated immediately following her death. Terri's parents, the Schindlers, were requesting an autopsy.
Other factors pointing to abuse include:
- Testimony of nurses who looked after Terri indicated that Michael was verbally abusive to Terri and may have attempted to kill her by insulin injection and attempts to induce pneumonia by turning the thermostat in her room to 64 degrees.
- Michael Baden, one of the most acclaimed forensic experts in North America, in an interview on Fox News National Television broadcast Saturday said Terri's bone scan indicates that Terri's injuries are not consistent with the suggested explanation of a heart attack or potassium imbalance. He said they are consistent with severe trauma possibly caused by a beating and would warrant an immediate investigation.
- Dr. William Hammesfahr, Nobel prize nominee and neurologist, testified that Terri's neck injuries are consistent with only one type of injury: that of strangulation.
Commenting on the case, Alex Schadenberg of the Euthanasia Prevention Coalition said, "It would come as no surprise to me that she had been abused previous to her disability, knowing that since1993 she has received continuous abuse by being denied basic medical care, visitation of loved ones, religious visits, and any form of rehabilitation."
Schadenberg warned however that the practice of euthanasia by withdrawal of nutrition and hydration from people who are not otherwise dying is common both in the United States and Canada. He pointed out that the argumentation around the case is not addressing the central point that nutrition and hydration should not be considered medical treatment. He noted that a 1990 U.S. Supreme Court decision wrongly allowed nutrition and hydration to be considered medical treatment.
In response to the six-day denial of food and fluids to Terri Schindler-Schiavo, the National Right to Life Committee is calling on state legislatures throughout the nation to move to protect people with disabilities from being denied food and fluids. The organization has issued a "Model Starvation and Dehydration of Persons with Disabilities Prevention Act."
See the NRLC model legislation for States:
http://www.nrlc.org/euthanasia/modelstatelaw.html
Terri's supporters have also asked pro-lifers to encourage AARP to intervene to save Terri's life and not against it: [email protected]
See also
Media 'getting it wrong' on Terri Schiavo story
Press erroneously report she's 'comatose,' doctors also dispute vegetative-state ruling
** People who are aware of the truth are calling in to radio and television stations insisting that they correct the misinformation. For example, Toronto News radio station 680 was reporting last week that Shiavo was in a persistive vegetative state. LifeSite called to say that that was not correct. The news room immediately acknowledged the error and corrected it. This would not have happened had no one called.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35270
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2003/oct/03102701.html
redsamurai
Banned
cindylou said:
that's a very good point. And GS, it wasn't until 98 that he petitioned to have her set free. That's 8 years.
She was in that state for 15 fucking years........it just wasn't going to happen. I can't imagine how selfish someone has to be to allow that to go on for that long of a time. That woman was captive here. If we're all supposedly so religious........why not let her go home? I don't get it.
DannoMight
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yeah that can do some major damage itself.velvett said:
cindylou said:
it's defferent.....medicine and technology were meant to help people survive and live in any possible way.....turning the machines off would be like killing them.....in fact, that's exactly what it is...call it mercy killing or ease of suffering if you will....it's still killing
DannoMight
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so its ok to use machines to play god then.......
redsamurai
Banned
the_alcatraz said:
these machines aren't "healing" these people though traz........they're merely keeping them "artificially" alive. It's still debateable whether their soul is still even there. As i said before, I don't mind being on life support "IF" there's evidence my body is healing itself. But if after over a decade my situation remains the same, please for the love of god let me go home.
redsamurai said:
Bro, I see your point completely. I also understand what cindy is saying. But this stems from the way I was raised and my beliefs. Killing, including killing one's self is wrong for whatever purpose...it's just wrong...you can't make that decision...only God can...you have no business taking away a life....
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SaladFork
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the_alcatraz said:
If you where in that situation would you want to live? I hear bed sores and shitting yourself all day is tons of fun. Not to mention the awesome food you get in a tube.
redsamurai
Banned
the_alcatraz said:
but that's our point.........it would seem as if God had spoken in Terri Schiavo's case. That's what disturbed me so much about it. It really looked like she was called back home and people were keeping her here.........feel me now??
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silverstar1025
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Very sad I wouldn't want to live like that either. He was a cute kid too.
I wouldn't want to live like that either. He was a cute kid too.
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silverstar1025
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Jon79 said:
Yeah good idea. I feel horrible watching it.
JumpBallWinner
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Regardless of how you feel about a the whole putting someone out of their misery when they are in a state like thing, I don't see how anyone could want to go about starving the person to death as a means of ending it.
I'd think that rather you agree with the actual doing it or not, that everyone would agree that if it is going to be done, it should be done in the quickest most humane way possible.
Is there any slower more painfull death than being starved to death? Takes like two weeks. Have you ever read about the pains the body starts going through as it tries to eat itself towards the end of the process?
I don't really have a strong stance on rather or not mercy killings should be allowed. The debate is endless and there are thousands and thousands of points that could be made on both sides of the argument. But I do know without question that starving a helpless person to death over the course of weeks is probably the most inhumane and cowardly way to go about it.
Life support is another story. You cut the machines off, their body can't support itself naturally, they die. But starving someone to death??.... I really just don't see how anyone could be in support of that. Hell, why not just drop their helpless body into the deep end of a swimming pool and wait for the bubbles to stop coming up if we're going to look for the worst possible ways to die as a means to go about performing "mercy killings" ?
I'd think that rather you agree with the actual doing it or not, that everyone would agree that if it is going to be done, it should be done in the quickest most humane way possible.
Is there any slower more painfull death than being starved to death? Takes like two weeks. Have you ever read about the pains the body starts going through as it tries to eat itself towards the end of the process?
I don't really have a strong stance on rather or not mercy killings should be allowed. The debate is endless and there are thousands and thousands of points that could be made on both sides of the argument. But I do know without question that starving a helpless person to death over the course of weeks is probably the most inhumane and cowardly way to go about it.
Life support is another story. You cut the machines off, their body can't support itself naturally, they die. But starving someone to death??.... I really just don't see how anyone could be in support of that. Hell, why not just drop their helpless body into the deep end of a swimming pool and wait for the bubbles to stop coming up if we're going to look for the worst possible ways to die as a means to go about performing "mercy killings" ?
SaladFork said:If you where in that situation would you want to live? I hear bed sores and shitting yourself all day is tons of fun. Not to mention the awesome food you get in a tube.
I would fight until the last breath....but that's just me
huh?
SpyWizard said:
velvett said:
That's a scary thought....in fact, truth is...I wouldn't know what to do and how I would react, and none of you would...because none of us has been in this situation before....
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SaladFork
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the_alcatraz said:
I know exactly what I would do... *I see black*
the_alcatraz said:
I'm not sure it would be you to you to make the decison when it happens unless you've already made it.
I have DNR, I don't want to be someone else's burden and I would rather be remembered as I was alive and flourishing.
It's a very personal decision for yourself and in the event you must choose for someone else.
velvett said:
It is quite personal....but if that time comes, who would you like to chose for you?
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jerseyrugger76
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Jesus-Tap-Dancing-Christ!! This is the kid Hulk Hogan and his asshat of a son said God must have been getting back at for being such a "negative person." From the looks of that horrifying video, his frontal lobe and cerebral cortex are COMPLETELY gone. I had no clue you could survive like that, but lower order brain functions like breathing and such are in the back of the head, so I suppose anything is possible, but I'd much rather have had them shoot me up with morphine and allow me to die in the ER than go on like that.
this is a sad sad thread....
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