Drums of War bangin' for Iran?

[Longhorn85]

That's what is so infuriating about men like you, intelligent men who just bury their head in the sand and blindly follow anyone who is in your party's upper echelons, no matter what, smply because their actions may benefit you personally and financially in some manner. Reminds me of Nazi Germany, it disgusts me...

Although it doesn't infuriate me, I find it to be an interesting piece of rationalization on the part of people like yourself, Mav and others.

It is unfathomable, I guess, for me to have an actual, sincere different opinion on this than you. You jump right to bizarre conspiracy theories.

Why do you suppose most members of the Armed Forces disagree as well? Are they all mind-numbed robots too? Are they getting rich from this war? Maybe like most liberals, you have an inherent disdain for the military.

Most of them have the skills to make much more money outside the Army. Yet they continue to enlist and renlist during a time of war.

Give General Petraeus some credit as a man and a military officer before you assume that he is a puppet.

 

[Powerbuilder333]

Why bother debating the knee jerk liberals? They just don't matter. Even if they get Clinton in the White House, she's going to do what needs to be done. If that means attacking Iran - so be it, she'll do it. Like Maggie Thatcher, there's no way she will want to appear weak on foriegn policy. Remember, she's the Clinton with the balls!
How's being politically impotent work for you dove? LOL.

 

[Mavafanculo]

Although it doesn't infuriate me, I find it to be an interesting piece of rationalization on the part of people like yourself, Mav and others.

It is unfathomable, I guess, for me to have an actual, sincere different opinion on this than you. You jump right to bizarre conspiracy theories.

Why do you suppose most members of the Armed Forces disagree as well? Are they all mind-numbed robots too? Are they getting rich from this war? Maybe like most liberals, you have an inherent disdain for the military.

Most of them have the skills to make much more money outside the Army. Yet they continue to enlist and renlist during a time of war.

Give General Petraeus some credit as a man and a military officer before you assume that he is a puppet.

1) you truly are immune to reality. ITS NOT A CONSPIRACY THEORY WHEN THE WH ADMITS IT WILL WRITE THE FUCKING REPORT. IT"S A FACT. GOT IT??

2) I said the report would be written by the WH, not patreaus. you said no that cant be so, and I have no repsct for the military to say he would allow words to be put in his mouth.

--what does that say for Bush, whose WH WILL write the report, and thus put words in the generals mouth. NO RESPECT FOR THE MILITARY. USING THEM AS PUPPET PROPS FOR HIS POLITICAL MOVES.

"The Patreaus Report", "The Patreaus Report","The Patreaus Report","The Patreaus Report", says the imbilcile. But the WH will write it.

using the military as puppet propss. No Respect.


3) you said "most members of the Armed Forces disagree as well". be more specific so I can blow you up again. because if its any of the things I think you mean, you're wrong yet again republi-bot.

 

[Razorguns]

assume that he is a puppet.

do you think his mission is 'to secure democracy in iraq'?? That was Rumsfeld, and he sure fucked that up.

his mission is simply to make it safe enough so troops can start coming back just in time for the november election. Repubs know they have to come back if they want any chance of winning in nov.

his role is severely limited. 'winning' is not on his list.

 

[Mavafanculo]

If he chooses to have members of his staff report directly to Congress vs Gen Petraeus, does that necessarily make it any less Gen Petraeus' report?
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jeez you are maddening.

"....administration officials said it would actually be written by the White House, with inputs from officials throughout the government...."


He keeps calling it "The Patreaus Report".

Not "The White House Report With Input From Various Officials Including Gen Patreaus"

There's nothing salvagable in your argument.

Just give up and stop moving, and I'll stop smacking you down.

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[Longhorn85]

It is a report from General Petraeus. The report will include the results of the surge to date. Thus the name.

Oh, and just because you found a few liberal cheerleaders on this thread, don't go thinking you have bested me, my liberal would-be nemesis.

A quick search will turn up so much ownage at your expense that it would any rival Civil War battlefield.

 

[BigRupe]

Not really, they just got their asses kicked by something along the likes of a street gang in that little 30 day war.

Whose fiction are you reading??

Define "ass kicked" because they sure as hell inflicted more causalties on the islamo-terrorist.

 

[BigRupe]

Although it doesn't infuriate me, I find it to be an interesting piece of rationalization on the part of people like yourself, Mav and others.

It is unfathomable, I guess, for me to have an actual, sincere different opinion on this than you. You jump right to bizarre conspiracy theories.

Why do you suppose most members of the Armed Forces disagree as well? Are they all mind-numbed robots too? Are they getting rich from this war? Maybe like most liberals, you have an inherent disdain for the military.

Most of them have the skills to make much more money outside the Army. Yet they continue to enlist and renlist during a time of war.

Give General Petraeus some credit as a man and a military officer before you assume that he is a puppet.

quoted for truth

Some here just don't have the balls to do what's right

 

[Forge]

Although it doesn't infuriate me, I find it to be an interesting piece of rationalization on the part of people like yourself, Mav and others.

It is unfathomable, I guess, for me to have an actual, sincere different opinion on this than you. You jump right to bizarre conspiracy theories.

Why do you suppose most members of the Armed Forces disagree as well? Are they all mind-numbed robots too? Are they getting rich from this war? Maybe like most liberals, you have an inherent disdain for the military.

Most of them have the skills to make much more money outside the Army. Yet they continue to enlist and renlist during a time of war.

Give General Petraeus some credit as a man and a military officer before you assume that he is a puppet.

See, there you go, just as always, assuming anyone who thinks differently than you is a bleeding heart liberal who hates anything republican. You just can't fathom the idea that any Republican could disagree with the President and this administration.

Fact is I'm a Republican, have been my whole life. I loved Reagan and Bush Sr. and pretty much everything they did (mostly). It's this current administration that has me ashamed to say I'm a Republican. Their actions have been and continue to be nothing short of appalling and horrifying. Our county is in the worst shape it has been in many decades, both financially and politically, and it's all due to very poor decisions made by this administration.

It's not the fact that your opinion differs from mine that astounds me, it's the fact that intelligent men like yourself just can't admit mistakes made by our party. It's like you are completely oblivious to them. Similar to how Bush Jr. is oblivious to them, or at least acts like he is. Maybe you are just acting too and pushing the party line no matter what. But what is the point of politics if we can't admit mistakes, and if we can't learn from those mistakes?

Like any good therapist can tell you, healing begins with admission...

 

[Longhorn85]

It's not the fact that your opinion differs from mine that astounds me, it's the fact that intelligent men like yourself just can't admit mistakes made by our party. It's like you are completely oblivious to them. ...

The issue here is not the party or politics, its the war. This nation committed itself, its treasure and its military to establishing democracy in Iraq.

Let's see it through, realizing that it is not an easy endeavor. Folks like Nancy Pelosi, Hillary and others couldn't care less about the prosecution of the war and victory.

They are more concerned with doing anything to stay in office and to make political hay out of any misstep by Bush.