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Dosage question, any thoughts would be greatly appreciated

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pilot3

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I'm on the tail end of my 4th cycle. I'm currently 31, 6'4" 270lbs 12% BF. I started this Cycle May 1st at 280lbs and Maybe 18-20% BF.

I have been running 600mg/wk deca and 900mg/wk Test Cyp with GH at 6iu/day 6 days a week.

I have been eating super clean and training 6-7 days a week, goal fat loss muscle gain. My bloat had been low(surprising but true). I know my gear is GTG so I'm not worried about purity.

I will be switching to the following items to finish my cycle which will run till the middle to end of September.

Test Prop(I was thinking 100mg/ED)
Mast prop(I was thinking 100mg/ED)
Primo(I was thinking 100mg/Ed)
Var(I was thinking 40 mg ED)(should I split doses? When is best time to take)
GH(I would prolly keep this at 6-7 ius A day

I'm looking to cut hard to finish this cycle

I feel like I have done a lot of research and have set the dosage aggressive, but not too high. Whats your thoughts??

Thanks for your info

Is this crazy high? What would you recommend?
 
pilot3 said:
I'm on the tail end of my 4th cycle. I'm currently 31, 6'4" 270lbs 12% BF. I started this Cycle May 1st at 280lbs and Maybe 18-20% BF.

I have been running 600mg/wk deca and 900mg/wk Test Cyp with GH at 6iu/day 6 days a week.

I have been eating super clean and training 6-7 days a week, goal fat loss muscle gain. My bloat had been low(surprising but true). I know my gear is GTG so I'm not worried about purity.

I will be switching to the following items to finish my cycle which will run till the middle to end of September.

Test Prop(I was thinking 100mg/ED)
Mast prop(I was thinking 100mg/ED)
Primo(I was thinking 100mg/Ed)
Var(I was thinking 40 mg ED)(should I split doses? When is best time to take)
GH(I would prolly keep this at 6-7 ius A day

I'm looking to cut hard to finish this cycle

I feel like I have done a lot of research and have set the dosage aggressive, but not too high. Whats your thoughts??

Thanks for your info

Is this crazy high? What would you recommend?
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I dont think it is to high..
 
pilot3 said:
I'm on the tail end of my 4th cycle. I'm currently 31, 6'4" 270lbs 12% BF. I started this Cycle May 1st at 280lbs and Maybe 18-20% BF.

I have been running 600mg/wk deca and 900mg/wk Test Cyp with GH at 6iu/day 6 days a week.

I have been eating super clean and training 6-7 days a week, goal fat loss muscle gain. My bloat had been low(surprising but true). I know my gear is GTG so I'm not worried about purity.

I will be switching to the following items to finish my cycle which will run till the middle to end of September.

Test Prop(I was thinking 100mg/ED)
Mast prop(I was thinking 100mg/ED)
Primo(I was thinking 100mg/Ed)
Var(I was thinking 40 mg ED)(should I split doses? When is best time to take)
GH(I would prolly keep this at 6-7 ius A day

I'm looking to cut hard to finish this cycle

I feel like I have done a lot of research and have set the dosage aggressive, but not too high. Whats your thoughts??

Thanks for your info

Is this crazy high? What would you recommend?
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With the ANAVAR 40mg daily works for me,,some like it it higher though. I would split it AM/PM
 
ALIN said:
With the ANAVAR 40mg daily works for me,,some like it it higher though. I would split it AM/PM
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I can't go under 60mg ED, or it just doesn't do shit for me. Unless he has taken Var before, it's going to be hard for him to even tell if he's dosed it right though. He has so much other gear going through him...

As Alin said, split AM/PM for the Var.

The other dosages look good to me :)
 
Tren is crap. I like what you got.

If you wanna really cyborg out, run halo at the end of that cycle @ 50mg/day. If you're dieting hard this will be perfect to spare muscle and keep intensity in the gym.

If not I'd pump the var up to 100mg/day. You're a big guy.
 
Thanks for the input, I will start 60mg/day with the var and work my way up to 100mg/day towards te end. However my var is 20mg pills, not sure yet if I can split them. If not should I go 40mg in the AM dose? Or the PM? Never taken them b4, no clue what the pill is like.

Thanks
 
That's almost two grams a week. Planning on competing? If not, it's way too much. If you don't know that, it's REALLY too much.
 
If you disagree with the dosage please recommend a different one. These particular drugs are new to me so I really value all experienced advice.

Thanks
 
pilot3 said:
If you disagree with the dosage please recommend a different one. These particular drugs are new to me so I really value all experienced advice.

Thanks
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I recommend taking nothing. You have a lot to learn. Using steroids correctly isn't just finding out what some guy on a message board says you should take and taking it.
 
Thanks Nelson, I'll just throw away all my new gear when it gets here today, glad we cleared that up. And thank you for all the helpful input Nelson.
 
Btw Nelson, before I came to these conclusions on dosage,

I read the drugsprofiles for each compound
A shit ton of forum posts
Spoke with my buddy who has a bio-Chem degree and an amazing amount of AAS experience
Talked to the UG Chemist that makes all of it
Also talked with a handful of friends that have taken all of these compounds before
 
if you are over 2gs in your fourth cycle there is a problem and it could lead to major problems down the road.

what would you 6th cycle look like 3g's

just take less drugs and focus more on diet and training.
 
thanks Judo, how does this look

test p-60mg-ED
Mast p-60mg/ED
Primo-75mg/ED
var-60mg/ED

1.785 grams
gh (I would prolly keep this at 6-7 ius A day
 
pilot3 said:
Btw Nelson, before I came to these conclusions on dosage,

I read the drugsprofiles for each compound
A shit ton of forum posts
Spoke with my buddy who has a bio-Chem degree and an amazing amount of AAS experience
Talked to the UG Chemist that makes all of it
Also talked with a handful of friends that have taken all of these compounds before
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Well, you obviously didn't learn much did ya? Look, I'm not trying to be a dick, but you have no idea what to use and are planning to use WAAAAAAAY too much. So what do you want me to say? Great idea!

I'm sure if you ask long enough you'll get people to agree with you and tell you to add some tren and halo and a few abombs. But I'm being honest and I'm looking out for your health. You don;t have to listen though.
 
Ok nelson, I appreciate the criticism, however you have given no advice on what isnt WAAAAAAY too much, or how you would stack it if you were me. I am getting all of these compounds today and I came on here to get more research bofore I inject.(Im certainly not going to throw all this in a drawer and forget about it, nobody on here would)

from the research that I have done,

I want to keep the Primo at 400mg or above/weekly
most say var needs to be 40-60 to get results, drugsprofiles says up to 50, so I set it at 40
mast p, says 300mg-600mg per week for 6-12weeks,
test p says 50-100mg per day or more
primo says the magic happens at 400mg a week but by todays standards 700+ is not uncommon.

look, I may be a rookie by many standards, however I am looking to make up for that with a lot of research with credible sources. And I will follow the advice given with my dosage, even if I think it is too conservative. The reason I posted this on here is there is a whole lot of people that have tried all of these compounds for years and years, that is the reason for these forums. I know that this stack is aggresive and very advanced. Thus the exstensive research. My diet and traning is exactly where they needs to be to cut, I have already cut 6% BF, I am looking to stack my compounds to go along with that. If I can cut 6% bf while on high dose deca/test, I cant wait to see what happens when I switch to these compounds.

If you think something on that list can be skipped please say so, I will save it for later, However I have already paid for and will recieve all of the listed items today, so I would like to use at least most of them to reach my goals, but I am still up in the air on dosage
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thanks for any helpfull input
 
Nelson Montana said:
Well, you obviously didn't learn much did ya? Look, I'm not trying to be a dick, but you have no idea what to use and are planning to use WAAAAAAAY too much. So what do you want me to say? Great idea!

I'm sure if you ask long enough you'll get people to agree with you and tell you to add some tren and halo and a few abombs. But I'm being honest and I'm looking out for your health. You don;t have to listen though.
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From his experience he learned that he can shed a lot of BF off using bulking compounds, which rationalizes the fact that he could use typical "cutting" drugs and get even more out of his cycles to obtain his goals. He gained 13lbs of muscle and lost roughly 24lbs of fat.

I think he has laid out a good combination of AAS to use but I think you're right, his doses are too high even for a 4th cycle.

At this point diet is going to be more important to achieve your goals then adding gear thats typically used for cutting.

How's your blood pressure, pilot? After running this cycle your lipid values are going to suck. Are you planning on getting blood tests?

350mg test/week
350mg masteron/week
400mg primo/week

(it's arguable if you even need the masteron though) and var at your dose.
 
Thank you UA thats exactly what I'm looking for

BP was 150/90 6 weeks ago, but I always run high

I can def do bloodwork, should I do it now before I switch to the new stuff? And at the end after PCT, or just at the end?
 
if your bp is that high then you shouldn't be juicing. get that under control first. hit the track and do a few miles a day and strengthen your heart. get your diet in check. lay off sodium and fats.. sugars and alcohol.... the #1 killer in the US is heart disease, you are gonna kill yourself my friend if you do not take better care of yourself

i hate to use this as an example but look at zyzz.. he had heart issues as it was. and he was juiced up and on stims.. and he ended up croaking in a sauna. had he taken care of his heart he would of still been able to bodybuild... you CAN bodybuild and still have a healthy heart. you MUST do some cardio and you must eat very well, otherwise you will kill your heart
 
pilot3 said:
from the research that I have done,

I want to keep the Primo at 400mg or above/weekly
most say var needs to be 40-60 to get results, drugsprofiles says up to 50, so I set it at 40
mast p, says 300mg-600mg per week for 6-12weeks,
test p says 50-100mg per day or more
primo says the magic happens at 400mg a week but by todays standards 700+ is not uncommon.
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but it doesnt say you have to take all of that in one cycle.

and the bp issue could end up being nothing or it can kill you.. if you have bp issues you should get it under control or do a cycle that is mild and will not raise bp much.. but you have to eat well and monitor your bp constantly.

good luck
 
Just bought an Omron 7 series bloo pressure monitor from wallgrens for 59 bucks. Good deal

And BP is 129/90, pulse 108

How cool is that, it fits around my wrist and its about the size of an apple
 
pilot3 said:
Just bought an Omron 7 series bloo pressure monitor from wallgrens for 59 bucks. Good deal

And BP is 129/90, pulse 108

How cool is that, it fits around my wrist and its about the size of an apple
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I'm a firm believer that every home should have one of these!
 
you have already ben on a long time. i would go off.. do a full pct and get your health back on track.

it wont kill you to take 6-12 months off and get everything in order like your diet,training, and health. If you dont it might not work out as well in the long term.
 
thanks guys, the first tests I was taking was while driving or pulled over after workouts, etc.

I have since re tested while sitting on the couch at home and my numbers where much better,

like 121/70 BP 70
 
my HR is in the 40's resting and hops over 70 when I'm driving and I ride a sport bike damm ur numbers are scary !
 
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