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Don't be afraid of needles!!!

Redfield11

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I must admit, when I was about to inject for the very first time a couple of weeks ago I was shaking like a 12 year old girl. I wasn't scared of the needle, more of hitting the sciatic nerve in my glute, which you WILL know about if you do. I've seen a lot of new guys asking how to pin on a lot of forums so I thought I'd give some simple, reassuring advice to any newbies who might need it.

There are plenty of pin sites, I did my quad this morning, which was by far the most painful pin I've done so far. So from now on I'm sticking to the ventrogluteal muscle (glute).

1. To draw from a vial, first wipe down the top of the vial with an alcohol wipe, get a sterile syringe and needle, hold like you're holding a pen and draw in air to the amount you want. So if you want 1ml, pull back to 1ml. Insert needle into the vial and push, this should draw in the right amount of oil. If not, pull back a bit or push so you have the correct dosage. Pull needle out of the vial and tap it a few times so that any bubbles disappear.

2. After drawing from your vial, replace that needle with a NEW sterile one.

3. Think of your right or left bum cheek as a square. Draw an imaginary line down the middle of one cheek and do the same across so you've got a cross shape. The upper, outer quadrant is where you want to pin. So for your left cheek, top left. Right cheek, top right. This is a safe zone, away from the sciatic nerve.

4. Get an alcohol wipe and clean your pin site, a couple of circles going from the middle outwards. Get your site nice and clean to minimize the risk of infection.

5. Push the needle in at a 90 degree angle. This is the scary part for most new guys. Is it going to hurt? Short answer is a little bit. The only thing you feel is a tiny pinch as the needle breaks the skin. After that and you start pushing in, you feel absolutely nothing. If you do feel something, it's because you've knicked a nerve. No worries, just pull out and repeat the process.

6. DRAW BACK. Before injecting, pull back to ensure that you are not injecting into a vein. YOU DO NOT INJECT INTO VEINS! If there is blood, pull out and repeat the process. If there's nothing, you're good to go, so start to push down slowly. Take your time, there's no rush.

7. After the oil has been injected, pull out slowly. Put your used needle in a 'sharps bin' or somewhere safe before throwing away. Never reuse needles, not even your own. Wipe your injection site with some more alcohol to clean it. Then you are done.

It does not hurt, trust me. Your skin has things called cutaneous nerves. These are sensory receptors that recognize pain. After you've broken the skin, there are no more of these nerves. So, no more pain. There are other nerves of course all over your body, but you can avoid them if you know where to pin. It's as easy as one, two, three. I hope this helps anyone who isn't sure about pinning. I know I could have done with some reassurance when I first pinned. The only think I got from a friend was, 'If you hit your sciatic nerve, you're going to scream like a b*tch'.

This is my advice and opinion. I am not a medical professional. If you have any doubts or want proper guidance, give your doctor a visit.

Red x
 
Haha right.

I'm trying to get as much information as possible because I'm planning a sustanon 250 cycle for my first aas cycle. Talking about reading on this forum hours on end but its great.

This was an extremely helpful post.
 
Tell me about it, I joined recently and spend quite a bit of my free time on here browsing threads! I've learned so much in such a short time and enjoying it! I'm glad you've found it helpful. My advice for a first cycle is going to be the same as most. Even though Sustanon consists of four test compounds, I'd really recommend just sticking with the one to start off with. I'm on 600mg a week of Test Enanthate at the moment and I'm loving it. I'm taking Dianabol with it as well at 50mg a day and already noticing gains, plus I feel incredible on it. That's just my advice, if Sustanon is the direction you want to go in, then go for it!
 
It just becomes routine after awhile.. especially when you start adding in different compounds and esters that don't match up. There is nothing to worry about.. unless you are pinning with an 18 gauge needle haha
 
I'm not that much of a woman haha. Over here I can walk into the supplier and get them in person. The woman (very hot by UK standards) that served me knew exactly what I was using them for, wanted to look like a man and go for the lowest gauge I could bare. So bought 50x18 gague to impress her as well as the 23's even though I had no intention of using them. She just shook her head and muttered 'twat' as I left.
 
I'm not that much of a woman haha. Over here I can walk into the supplier and get them in person. The woman (very hot by UK standards) that served me knew exactly what I was using them for, wanted to look like a man and go for the lowest gauge I could bare. So bought 50x18 gague to impress her as well as the 23's even though I had no intention of using them. She just shook her head and muttered 'twat' as I left.

Good rule of thumb bro, 23ga x 1.5" for glutes. 25ga x 1" for quads, delts and most other locations.

Quads shouldn't hurt once you break the skin. IF you are in the right location. If you are not it will hurt like hell. There are also a lot of nerves in the quad to hit. I have had to pull out after a half inch and re insert many times. Just make sure you aspirate wherever you pin. Yes, even glutes. You never know. takes 2 seconds and its a good safety habit to get into.
 
Good rule of thumb bro, 23ga x 1.5" for glutes. 25ga x 1" for quads, delts and most other locations.

Quads shouldn't hurt once you break the skin. IF you are in the right location. If you are not it will hurt like hell. There are also a lot of nerves in the quad to hit. I have had to pull out after a half inch and re insert many times. Just make sure you aspirate wherever you pin. Yes, even glutes. You never know. takes 2 seconds and its a good safety habit to get into.

Nice one, cheers for the advice. At the moment I'm really comfortable with glutes. As I said, I pinned my quad earlier for the first time and it was painful but that's probably bad technique. I make sure to pull back too, don't want to risk injecting into a vein for the sake of a couple of seconds. But yeah. Don't know what I was worrying about earlier, I guess it was just all in the mind.
 
Nice one, cheers for the advice. At the moment I'm really comfortable with glutes. As I said, I pinned my quad earlier for the first time and it was painful but that's probably bad technique. I make sure to pull back too, don't want to risk injecting into a vein for the sake of a couple of seconds. But yeah. Don't know what I was worrying about earlier, I guess it was just all in the mind.

I have pulled back a syringe full of blood a couple times. twice in the quad and one in the delt. Could have been very bad had I injected.

With the quad, sit down and look at your quad. draw an imaginary cross on the top of your quad. You want to inject in the upper, outer most section. Go down over the side and inject in from the side perpendicular from your leg, not down from the top. When you are all the way in let go of the syringe (it wont go anywhere) it will center itself. You might be surprised that even if you go in how you believe is straight, once you let go it may now be at an angle. Now grab it and hold it in the position it wants to be in and inject. Sometimes the pain in quad injections can come from fighting the angle the needle wants to be at. I dunno if that makes sense the way I described it.
Also with the quad you need to insert the needle very SLOWLY. That way if you come up on a nerve you will feel it coming and you can pause then if the pain subsides, move on. if not pull out and move slightly and re insert. Also inject slowly too. No matter where you pin. It takes me about a minute to inject a ml. We don't want any pooling oil.
 
If you are lean enough, you can pin test with an insulin needle.

For real experienced guys who are super lean I suppose it would be fine. The longest slin pin I have seen is 5/8". even if I were 4% body fat and the gear was 100% EO I still don't think I would want a ml or more of oil 5/8" under my skin.
I have seen some guys that do ED multiple injects use a 3/4" 27ga in the lateral tricep head.
 
Injecting oil with a slin pin is not right IMO...unless your bf is 1%
 
I don't.. but my friend does test prop with a 1/2 inch insulin needle in his delt. The injection takes a little bit longer
 
I'm regretting pinning my quad now. Did my last one before going to Vegas yesterday, stood up and walked off the plane earlier and felt like I had been shot. Did what Stevesmi said and had some legal stuff delivered to the hotel to keep me going though my holiday, but starting to think if this quad gets any worse I'm going to have to see a doctor. Saying that I'm probably just being a woman.
 
I don't.. but my friend does test prop with a 1/2 inch insulin needle in his delt. The injection takes a little bit longer

when i tried it i was pushing down on the plunger and it wasn't moving. seems like it was stuck. maybe when i went in some flesh got into the needle and blocked the oil i dunno
 
I'm regretting pinning my quad now. Did my last one before going to Vegas yesterday, stood up and walked off the plane earlier and felt like I had been shot. Did what Stevesmi said and had some legal stuff delivered to the hotel to keep me going though my holiday, but starting to think if this quad gets any worse I'm going to have to see a doctor. Saying that I'm probably just being a woman.

Likely you will be fine. Test prop let alone in the quad fucking hurts. It can be crippling for a week.
 
I've used a slin pin many times before when I was experimenting with tren ace. Took a while to draw but pinning wasn't too bad. I'd pull back create a good vacuum and just relax and check it every 30 sec to see how close to a ml I was. I have also injected 3 ml once or twice with a 5/8 into quad with no discomfort. Just go slow. I'm pretty lean though especially my quads so that helps. I don't recommend 3 ml if test prop or t400 though.. Anywhere.
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