Doggcrapp + dianabol

[Marmonika]

Hey what's up, I've been training for a year and a half, I'm 26, I am 6 foot and I weigh 157 pounds, I was looking into doggcrapp and I like it very much as it meets everything I want in a program (frequency, intensity, and a strength aspect) do you think I would be overtraining if I did a simple DC split whilst on dianabol (I am running a 5 week cycle). My diet is very clean as I am going to eat 3800 calories ED.

Thanks in advance

 

[joeblow12345]

I personally feel you are too small to be using any aas. At your height you should be easily pushing 220. I think you should take the money you were going to spend on juice and invest in steak and eggs. Food is the most anabolic substance on the planet, and if you cant gain by eating, then steroids arent going to be very beneficial. I personally feel overtraining is caused by lack of nutrition and recovery, not volume and intensity. Spend some time gaining with food then consider aas.

 

[RickRock13]

You definitely need to gain more naturally before starting a cycle bro. If you can't gain naturally, then adding steroids won't do anything either. I don't think you need to be 220, but I see no reason that you can't easily add 20 lbs to your frame before cycling

 

[midevilironsmasher]

I weigh 235 right now. I haven't touched AAS yet and although I am at a point where my weight gains are a lot slower, I am still gaining strength every week. The only thing I ever experimented with was GHRP-6 to help aid the recovery of an overuse injury. When I started I was 190. When I finished I was 190. My training didn't revolve around lifting weights back then. Anyways, My point is that you need to reach a much higher natural genetic potential before considering AAS. In the long run it will probably stunt your gains. Your 26 years old so there is no reason why you shouldnt be able to gain weight with the right amount of food and sticking with DC for a good while. Just Eat Huge and stick to the program for long enough. I also want to put the I weighed 190 in December. So its not impossible.

 

[Evan Tipps]

^ Build up a good base man!!! People that cycle without a good base dont usually keep gains xD

 

[ceo]

Hey what's up, I've been training for a year and a half, I'm 26, I am 6 foot and I weigh 157 pounds, I was looking into doggcrapp and I like it very much as it meets everything I want in a program (frequency, intensity, and a strength aspect) do you think I would be overtraining if I did a simple DC split whilst on dianabol (I am running a 5 week cycle). My diet is very clean as I am going to eat 3800 calories ED.

Thanks in advance

Doggcrapp (DC Training) is NOT a beginner program. At 6' and 157 lbs, you are a beginner. If you have read up on DC you would know that. Dante recommends a minimum of 3 years of consistent, serious training before thinking about DC. DC is mostly a last resort for guys who have exhausted gains through every other training program they've tried (and they've tried almost all of them).

You need to look into a 3x5 or 5x5 style routine and forget about a super clean 3800 calorie diet, and just eat the fuck out of everything in sight. With your metabolism and the fact you're lifting 3 days a week, you won't put on much fat if any. You can keep your diet mostly clean, eating chicken, steak, fish, rice, potatoes, pasta, etc. But sure as shit don't skip dessert and a few McDoubles from the dollar menu and a large fries wouldn't hurt you now and then either.

I can shit out 3800 calories a day when I'm bulking. That's eating like a girl. To get in the calories and the protein you're going to need (minimum 2 grams of protein -at your weight 3 grams - per pound of bodyweight per day), you will need to drink around 3 shakes a day on top of eating every 2-3 hours.

Please do not start DC training. Look into the stronglifts 5x5, or the madcow 5x5 for intermediate lifters. Both are hosted on the stronglifts.com site. Google will lead you right there.

And save your money on the cycle. You haven't even learned how to eat and train yet. Why waste money on gear for what you could easily get naturally?

 

[stevesmi]

Hey what's up, I've been training for a year and a half, I'm 26, I am 6 foot and I weigh 157 pounds, I was looking into doggcrapp and I like it very much as it meets everything I want in a program (frequency, intensity, and a strength aspect) do you think I would be overtraining if I did a simple DC split whilst on dianabol (I am running a 5 week cycle). My diet is very clean as I am going to eat 3800 calories ED.

Thanks in advance

why aren't you eating right now? with your stats you are skin and bones..

you have been training a year and a half, how much did u weigh when you started? it can take years and years to build a base. before you start messing with hormones why not build a base and gain experience first so you can get the most out of it?

 

[RickRock13]

^All these guys are giving you some great advice bro. We are all here to help you, and if you do as we all say it will help you reach your goals. Hormones are not the answer right now

 

[obsessedwliftin]

Well said by Steve, Ceo, and Rick. These gentlemen are trying to help you bro. Reconsider what you are doing and take the advice given.

 

[shirlene29]

I personally feel you are too small to be using any aas. At your height you should be easily pushing 220. I think you should take the money you were going to spend on juice and invest in steak and eggs. Food is the most anabolic substance on the planet, and if you cant gain by eating, then steroids arent going to be very beneficial. I personally feel overtraining is caused by lack of nutrition and recovery, not volume and intensity. Spend some time gaining with food then consider aas.

max natural genetic potential at 6' is closer to 200 than 220


the stronglifts set up is probably the best one to go with..its simple and effective and as long as you maintain good form you'll avoid injuries which keep you out of the gym