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Does everyone use aspirin w/ephedra+caffeine?

Hell yeah bro!! i first heard of this from Dan Duchaine!! i was "recommending" it to all the strippers that i trained!!! they loved the shit!!! the first time i did 2/25mg ephedrine, 1 adult aspirin, and i vivarin(300mg caffiene?) i went to the gym, damn near tore the gym down. started seeing white and yellow dots but didnt care!! i made 4 new friends during the workout because i couldnt stop talking.....increased my bench and db presses....best workout ever! then i went home and crashed for about a 4 hour "nap". :evil:
 
It works well to give energy and the ephedrine helps preserve muscle. I use asprin couse its supposed to give a longer effect. I take 25mg e, 200mg c, 325mg a. It only lasts me 3hours. I take it 3 times a day.
 
sennutrition carries a metabolic fuel thats the 25mgs ma haung ephedra, 200mgs caffeine and 100mgs aspirin. You should check that out.
 
bigsteven80 said:
just buy the eca stack it has all of that in it. and take it 3 times a day every 5 hours 30mins before meals
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where can you get this ECA stack??
 
Aspirin thins the blood out, im sure its for the increase of blood pressure caused by the effet of the caffiene and aspirin.
 
i thought i remembered reading that using aspirin inhibits protein synthesis, and just to use EC

then again, i could be full of shit

i'll see if i can find the study
 
HollywoodSwole said:
i thought i remembered reading that using aspirin inhibits protein synthesis, and just to use EC

then again, i could be full of shit

i'll see if i can find the study
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Thought I read that about caffeine, but it could be me who is mistaken....I ordered from the website the gent above listed and love it! Gosh how I missed this shit!
 
galaxy said:
sennutrition carries a metabolic fuel thats the 25mgs ma haung ephedra, 200mgs caffeine and 100mgs aspirin. You should check that out.
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I could not find it bro

can you Pm me a link please?

thanks!
 
Just curious if the Guaifenisen found in most Ephedrine HCl that you can buy in the states now effects the performance of the ECA stack?
 
Aspirin reduces the negative feedback system that tries to stop ephedrine from working.

- Ephedrine causes beta-agonists to be released (adrenaline), causing weight loss.
- Beta agonists activate cAMP, which phosphorolates proteins, which causes the changes that lead to appetite suppression and thermogenesis.

The negative feedback system tries to stop cAMP activity through two mechanism. phosphodiesterases and prostaglandins. Caffiene inhibits phosphodiesterases and aspirin inhibits prostaglandins. If you are worried about bleeding switching to Ibuprofin should be just as effective, and Ibuprofin does not permanently bind the COX enzyme.

ephedrine --> beta agonists --> cAMP --> protein phosphorylation --> metabolic changes that lead to weight loss

The C & A inhibit the breakdown of cAMP so the process can continue to run smoothly.

If you want EC to kick your ass combine it with a low dose of an SSRI like prozac or zoloft. I am working on my drug regimin right now and even 6 mg of ephedrine taken 2x/day is too stimulating when I take it with 25mg zoloft. I am going to have to keep lowering my dose to find that optimal spot where appetite is suppressed a bit and side effects are limited. Right now the appetite suppression, thermogenesis & sides are too intense. Yesterday I ran 6mg ephedrine, 25mg zoloft & 200mg caffiene at 8am, then 6mg w/200mg caffiene at 1130am. The stimulation was far too intense to handle and by 9pm I had to take 80mg of beta blockers just to get to sleep. That was a horrible night, I almost started having delusions because my NA levels were so high. Next time I am just trying 10mg zoloft and 6mg ephedrine. Yesterday I burned about 5500 calories via normal activity, fidgeting & exercise but only ate 3000, which is far too high of a deficit.

Combining it with green tea is also recommended

http://fatnews.com/index.php?/weblo...an-interview-with-researcher-dr-abdul-dulloo/

http://fatnews.com/index.php?/weblog/comments/tea-polyphenols-increase-thermogenesis/
 
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I dont think running SSRI's is a wise thing to do myself. I mean if you need them fine, but otherwise fucking around with doses and what not is gonna fuck with you mentally. I take 30mgs of Lexapro ed myself, but I would never consider taking more or less one day. you need even blood levels with that stuff.
 
Dude, ECA stacks are not good for your health. Ephedrine can really screw your heart up.

And it's fat burning properties are minimal. Just drink some instant coffee and hit the gym.

The less supplements you take the better you will feel and be. and Also SSRIS are dangerous shit, they make you suicidal and even more depressed, i dont know how anyone can live on SSRIS, they really make you SUPER LAZY and cant lift in the gym
 
I know since i began them i just dont give a fuck about the gym the same way I used to. Its like I have to drag myself there now.
 
SSRI's are bad news. I tried Prozac, Paxil, Wellbutrin. They made me feel like a fat lazy turd.

My wife is on Lexapro and she has turned into a zombie.
 
zk7 said:
Dude, ECA stacks are not good for your health. Ephedrine can really screw your heart up.

And it's fat burning properties are minimal. Just drink some instant coffee and hit the gym.

The less supplements you take the better you will feel and be. and Also SSRIS are dangerous shit, they make you suicidal and even more depressed, i dont know how anyone can live on SSRIS, they really make you SUPER LAZY and cant lift in the gym
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Thanks Doc
 
a bomb said:
SSRI's are bad news. I tried Prozac, Paxil, Wellbutrin. They made me feel like a fat lazy turd.

My wife is on Lexapro and she has turned into a zombie.
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I know. I havent felt like lifting for 3 years and thats exactly when i began taking SSRI's. Maybe i should cut back to 10mgs lexapro instead of the 30 Im on?
 
aceofspades said:
Just curious if the Guaifenisen found in most Ephedrine HCl that you can buy in the states now effects the performance of the ECA stack?
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It is an expectorant. It'll only make you hock up a lugey more often.
 
galaxy said:
I know. I havent felt like lifting for 3 years and thats exactly when i began taking SSRI's. Maybe i should cut back to 10mgs lexapro instead of the 30 Im on?
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I would try that and see how it treats you. Eventually from 10mg I would try to quit the things totally. Have you ever tried P7 and Oxycalm from Anafit? Stuff really works for me.
 
Will Brink did an article years ago regarding aspirin in the ECA stack.

If I remember correctly, aspirin was only found to be more than marginally effective in the way Lao Tzu said in obese women and diabetics as it tends to enhance insulin sensitivity. In those studies, the dosages given to mice initially would require a man to eat 8 aspirins a day. Say goodbye to your stomach lining.
 
a bomb said:
I would try that and see how it treats you. Eventually from 10mg I would try to quit the things totally. Have you ever tried P7 and Oxycalm from Anafit? Stuff really works for me.
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I have obsessive compulsive disorders tho. Thats why i used to be such a good lifter. And stuff that around the house that used to make me nuts doesnt now. I dont know. I may try to go back to 20mgs then 10mgs and eventually off. Well see....
 
Well Im also going to be getting a cpap mask to sleep with at nite as i have severe sleep apnea. Had something like 45 distruptions in an hour and anything over 40 is severe. So it seems to me thats the root of all my problems. I mean im always tired and wondering why i am so tired and now i know. Caused me to be depressed cus its like, wtf am i always so tired for ya know. SO you dont sleep, your irritable as all hell , always wanting to take naps, short term memory loss. Just always thinking about sleeep. I hope this mask works, cus im ditching the ssris for sure.
 
galaxy said:
I know since i began them i just dont give a fuck about the gym the same way I used to. Its like I have to drag myself there now.
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Since I began taking that product from senutrition, I have to drag myself OUT of the gym!
 
ssris are pure poison they dont even work as advertised , and they make you so much worse, its unreal. go on 60mg prozac, you'll be suicidal overnight.

they create chemical imbalances simply because depression aint caused by 1 single thing its caused by tonz of things combined and when you simply boost serotonin you create an imbalance with your other neurotransmitters like dopamine, norephrine etcc and hence your body goes into auto suicide mode.
 
Well i think my problems stem from the fact ive spent the past several years with sever sleep apnea and i just learned this last week. I mean alll the stuff i told the therapist i could have been telling the sleep Dr.
 
Galaxy, I remember you used to use Effexor. What was your opinion on that? I am on it myself and I am thinking of coming off it slowly. Do you have any advice? Thanks bro.
 
galaxy said:
Well i think my problems stem from the fact ive spent the past several years with sever sleep apnea and i just learned this last week. I mean alll the stuff i told the therapist i could have been telling the sleep Dr.
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Oh man, most def it is the apnea. That lack of REM sleep is slowly killin ya bro. The mask will help a ton. My dad has used one for years - it took some getting used to, but his energy levels skyrocketed after he started getting some quality rest.
 
The doses of SSRIs are minimal and have nothing to do with the doses involved for treating depression. Zoloft for a ephedrine-zoloft stack may be 10-50mg/day. For depression it would be 100-200mg/day. For prozac it is 10mg/day for stacks, but for depression it is 40-80mg/day.
 
I take a puff of Primatine mist before chest and shoulders....its Epinephrine 0.22 mg....fires me up like a race horse..... OTC...bought at Safeway....
 
DMI said:
Galaxy, I remember you used to use Effexor. What was your opinion on that? I am on it myself and I am thinking of coming off it slowly. Do you have any advice? Thanks bro.
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I just didnt care....about anything.....too much for me. I went back to the Lexapro but Im thinking i even need to back down on that. I just use some alprozolam(generic xanax) when i need it for anxiety and i think that works best.
 
zk7 said:
ssris are pure poison they dont even work as advertised , and they make you so much worse, its unreal. go on 60mg prozac, you'll be suicidal overnight.

they create chemical imbalances simply because depression aint caused by 1 single thing its caused by tonz of things combined and when you simply boost serotonin you create an imbalance with your other neurotransmitters like dopamine, norephrine etcc and hence your body goes into auto suicide mode.
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This comment is completely opinionated. I'm taking zoloft 50mg daily for anxiety and insomnia for last 2 years and it has made my life wonderful. I hade the most racing thoughts ever, couldn't get to bed because I was always worried and stressed about shit (small shit). After the first month my mind completely got balanced out. It felt like the devil was taking out of my head and I was no longer sweating the small stuff.

Many times people take ssri's and it doesn't do shit for em because they are not taking the right one. Lexapro, Effexor, Prozac,<---- tried all for a period of time and none of them did anything for me exept zoloft. If your depressed your seritonin levels are low. SSRI's balance out your seritonin levels and keep them at a steady level (even-flow) so that if a problem or issue arises that stresses one out, you won't get so down on yourself as you normally would. SSRI's are giving to treat many things like eating disorders, suicidal issues, sleeping problems. There are many side effects of them though so you should regularly be in contact with your pyschiatrist/doc to tell him your condition and emotions.
 
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