No kidding! This poor guy just wants a little validation. Think of it this way, say if jay cutler spent his whole life natty and working out every other weekend, would you be able to say he's got The genetics for bodybuilding? I highly doubt it. Now if you want to get to those extremes you are gonna have to let it consume your life and you are most definitely going to have juice. But can you make respectable gains being more moderate? Of course! Now if you were 4 feet tall and had muscular dystrophy then my answer would be different.