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Do Guys With Long Hair Get More Chicks?

curling

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The reason I think yes is because not only do they get the straight chicks they might also get the bi or heavily leaning bi chicks because their hair is long so the girl can imagine they are a chick when they are turned around backwards. Why the short haired guys can only get chicks that are attracted to the manly type men. Just a thought for a monday.
 
No.

Cuz most long hair guys are either totally skinny or totally fat (ignoring the biker "fat" look), and 90% of them don't know how to take care of themselves in life, have no goals, and still live at home with mom. That said, it gives the impression to all women, that long haired guys -- unless they're on stage on mtv, or fighting with swords at a renaissance faire -- are like total losers.

The only reason the 80s were differnet, was cuz back then, those poofed-up aqua-net guys had million-dollar record contracts. And we know how much women love money. :)
 
I had rather long hair up to some weeks ago and it definately worked for me, but it was a pain in the ass. it's a ladykiller when it is clean and in position, but extra bad when it is not. I cut it off because it wasn't worth the time for me. but when I cleaned and styled it right it looked good on me.
 
it depends on the guy below the hair--long or short hair cut.

my best friend/broly/partner in higher acts of stupidity had long hair all during the 90's, sometimes in awesome lookig dreadlocks. he had all the gals he could handle. 5 years ago he cut it shorter, into a more moderen "high and tight" look---still gets all the sex he wants.

when i shaved my head smooth 5 years ago, my sex appeal increased--or so i am told. even when i had a head full of carefully styled hair, i get more action now than then.
 
I dont believe in in/out. Its for plebs.

A truely goodlooking handsome well dressed gentleman could step into the year 1900, 1950, or 2004, and look good. men who look good in another way, are following childish fads.
 
if you go to hollywood.

black-dyed spikey, hot-topic shoppin, skinny heroin look is what's "in".

having that dave navarro little black goattee thing also looks sexy.

If i decided to become a sheep, and start to look all "mtv" and "trendy" -- i'd be back to bangin' 10 women a month like I used to.
 
I have never ever EVER found even remotely long hair on a guy the least bit attractive. As a matter of fact, for me, it is a TOTAL TURN OFF.

A man's hair can never be too short. EVER...

And if that shit is getting thin, then shave that fucker off!

Nothing says, "I gots tons of attitude" like a guy who shaves his head.

God help me, but I soooooooo have a weakness for "attitude". ;)
 
in a nutshell: long hair is only attractive is attached to a wrestler, a biker, or a rich wannabee with a million dollar record contract -- in which case he could look like ron jeremy and still get laid. :)

as for me. my hair is so fucking long (over 3 feet) it's beyond the "long hair" category, and into the "dayum" fascination category women put me into. Problem is: they love to yank on it in clubs and it fucking annoys me to no end.
 
Werd said:
I have never ever EVER found even remotely long hair on a guy the least bit attractive. As a matter of fact, for me, it is a TOTAL TURN OFF.

A man's hair can never be too short. EVER...

And if that shit is getting thin, then shave that fucker off!

Nothing says, "I gots tons of attitude" like a guy who shaves his head.

God help me, but I soooooooo have a weakness for "attitude". ;)

You want to see attitude? Watch me walk into a boardroom full of executives with my long hair in a wool suit and pink shirt. They're sitting there all short haired and pimped out. I'm the only one different. They look like cookie cutter executives.

The most fun part is they're not exactly sure how to take me. The most fatal mistake they can make is trying to sterotype me and underestimate who I am by what they see. I just LOVE that. bwahahahahahahaha :chomp:
 
I think a bald head says, im too macho and stupid to care to comb or wash hair

normal short hair, like spiked, says nothing

well cleaned, well cut, well styled fairly long hair, like shoulder length or just shorter, says you are stylish and slick

longer than shoulder length is usually careless people who just cut it off once every 5 years and dont give a shit.
 
Razorguns said:
in a nutshell: long hair is only attractive is attached to a wrestler, a biker, or a rich wannabee with a million dollar record contract -- in which case he could look like ron jeremy and still get laid. :)

as for me. my hair is so fucking long (over 3 feet) it's beyond the "long hair" category, and into the "dayum" fascination category women put me into. Problem is: they love to yank on it in clubs and it fucking annoys me to no end.

Longhaired Spec ops, undercover agents and foreign agents always get hot pussy!
 
Werd said:
Nothing says, "I gots tons of attitude" like a guy who shaves his head.

God help me, but I soooooooo have a weakness for "attitude". ;)
DAWLIN' !!!!! ;) :qt: :p
 
Werd said:
I have never ever EVER found even remotely long hair on a guy the least bit attractive. As a matter of fact, for me, it is a TOTAL TURN OFF.

There has been one e(f)ception to that rule, has there not? :p


Oh and btw, I have long, thick, beautiful curly black hair that would make your thighs tingle


Chicks want to rub their hands through it and like Putty from Seinfeld I say "Naw babe, I'm keepin it krunk'd"

And then we have sex
 
Thing is. If you are stylish and attractive to BEGIN with. You will always look hot, no matter how long the hair. They can grow hair long and still know how to make it look good.

eg: antonio banderas, brad pitt, johnny depp.
 
Frackal19 said:
Werd said:
I have never ever EVER found even remotely long hair on a guy the least bit attractive. As a matter of fact, for me, it is a TOTAL TURN OFF.

There has been one e(f)ception to that rule, has there not? :p


Oh and btw, I have long, thick, beautiful curly black hair that would make your thighs tingle


Chicks want to rub their hands through it and like Putty from Seinfeld I say "Naw babe, I'm keepin it krunk'd"

And then we have sex

No, there has NEVER been an exception to that rule. The guy you have in mind is definitely NOT the same man that I loved once....

I haven't a clue who the man you have in mind is. Neither physically (when I knew him he had INCREDIBLY short hair. It was thick and black with greys just beginning to peak out and wavy but cut very short.) nor do I know him spiritually or mentally and certainly not emotionally...

Just part of life lessons. :)

As for what I find appealing, personally. I am being serious. If I see a guy that I am remotely attracted to and his hair is only "sloppy long" I get TOTALLY TURNED OFF. I don't know why, I just do. I have never EVER EVER been remotely attracted to a guy with even hair that is a little bit longish.

I find it a TOTAL TURN OFF. I dont' know why.... but I just do.
 
Razorguns said:
Thing is. If you are stylish and attractive to BEGIN with. You will always look hot, no matter how long the hair. They can grow hair long and still know how to make it look good.

eg: antonio banderas, brad pitt, johnny depp.

Seriously, I find even "longish" hair totally unnattractive.
 
Werd said:
I have never ever EVER found even remotely long hair on a guy the least bit attractive. As a matter of fact, for me, it is a TOTAL TURN OFF.

A man's hair can never be too short. EVER...

And if that shit is getting thin, then shave that fucker off!

Nothing says, "I gots tons of attitude" like a guy who shaves his head.

God help me, but I soooooooo have a weakness for "attitude". ;)

Werd sounds like you like the manly men which I mentioned in my original post but do you go both ways?
 
i don't know if they get more chicks.....if i a girl likes long hair then their good to to go

i personally have never found that attractive
 
tripleblonde said:
i don't know if they get more chicks.....if i a girl likes long hair then their good to to go

i personally have never found that attractive

What about when Arnold played Conan?
 
nah mullets rock tho
 
>What about when Arnold played Conan?

Conan rocks!

Long hair when presented with a bad-ass, tough, mean attitude and physique looks awesome. Which is why wrestlers, bikers and CONAN! can pull it off (and the rock in scorpion king).

but jesus christ, if you'r trying to pull off the "look i'm so sensitive and nice and handsome. come date me" look, you look like a fucking gay peter pan retard. Ugh!

I keep telling long hair guys. Hey, STOP trying to pull off the GQ look. It AIN'T happenin'. Either head-bang, or gain muscles. Otherwise, cut that shit.

Here laugh your ass off --> www.longhairedmen.com

good god.
 
Razorguns said:
oh c'mon. like you would throw any of those guys out of bed. :)

I am serious. I have never EVER been with a guy that even had "longish" hair. Instantly something inside me shuts off no matter how hot the guy would be otherwise.
 
curling said:
Werd sounds like you like the manly men which I mentioned in my original post but do you go both ways?

I find women very arousing to look at but not to touch. I have gone "that way" and found it to be "eh".... not remotely worth the effort. Actually it was kind of boring. When I am aroused and I want to touch, I want to feel A MAN underneath my fingertips, not a soft woman... I've never touched a hard woman in a sexual fashion. But then again, even they would still be woman when it came down to it. They are void a cock and I could never feel the gratification of "consuming them" within my body and taking all of their energy when they cum. For me this is a VERY GRATIFYING and IMPORTANT PART OF SEX.

The only neat part of it was when I was able to make a chick cum (combination dildo and hands). I admit I do have a fantasy about making a women cum on my tongue, but it would be in the context of MY MAN teaching me.... However, when I consider that I do NOT find a woman appealing to touch, I think that if I ever acted on this fantasy it would be disappointing. So, I am quite satisfied to have it remain... a fantasy.
 
curling said:
What about when Arnold played Conan?

Conan the Barbarian was awesome in every way... but still I would have issue with the hair. I do agree that the character was more accurately depicted with the long hair, but he was also A FANTASY... A character.

I find men with long hair very UNSEXY. Not saying anything bad about anyone or that a man is not attractive by the standards of MANY women. I am only talking about ME.

I do not like it at all. Never have and doubt I ever will.
 
Razorguns said:
if you go to hollywood.

black-dyed spikey, hot-topic shoppin, skinny heroin look is what's "in".

having that dave navarro little black goattee thing also looks sexy.

If i decided to become a sheep, and start to look all "mtv" and "trendy" -- i'd be back to bangin' 10 women a month like I used to.

You're definately right... Having long hair is much better than having sex all the time.
 
Werd said:
I find women very arousing to look at but not to touch. I have gone "that way" and found it to be "eh".... not remotely worth the effort. Actually it was kind of boring. When I am aroused and I want to touch, I want to feel A MAN underneath my fingertips, not a soft woman... I've never touched a hard woman in a sexual fashion. But then again, even they would still be woman when it came down to it. They are void a cock and I could never feel the gratification of "consuming them" within my body and taking all of their energy when they cum. For me this is a VERY GRATIFYING and IMPORTANT PART OF SEX.

The only neat part of it was when I was able to make a chick cum (combination dildo and hands). I admit I do have a fantasy about making a women cum on my tongue, but it would be in the context of MY MAN teaching me.... However, when I consider that I do NOT find a woman appealing to touch, I think that if I ever acted on this fantasy it would be disappointing. So, I am quite satisfied to have it remain... a fantasy.

uh hmm uh I need to go to the bathroom after reading that be back in a little while...
 
Werd said:
I find women very arousing to look at but not to touch. I have gone "that way" and found it to be "eh".... not remotely worth the effort. Actually it was kind of boring. When I am aroused and I want to touch, I want to feel A MAN underneath my fingertips, not a soft woman... I've never touched a hard woman in a sexual fashion. But then again, even they would still be woman when it came down to it. They are void a cock and I could never feel the gratification of "consuming them" within my body and taking all of their energy when they cum. For me this is a VERY GRATIFYING and IMPORTANT PART OF SEX.

The only neat part of it was when I was able to make a chick cum (combination dildo and hands). I admit I do have a fantasy about making a women cum on my tongue, but it would be in the context of MY MAN teaching me.... However, when I consider that I do NOT find a woman appealing to touch, I think that if I ever acted on this fantasy it would be disappointing. So, I am quite satisfied to have it remain... a fantasy.

Christ my proposal I am working just went to shit now after reading all this! How can I be expected to put down any rational thought now!!!!! Just great!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil:
 
Bigdawg1468 said:
Christ my proposal I am working just went to shit now after reading all this! How can I be expected to put down any rational thought now!!!!! Just great!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil:


So you got a chubby?
 
OMG. You're NOT bi???

That's disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself. You've been stricken off the 10/10 EF chick list!!! Change, dammit change!!!

Women are funny. They have high standards on looks. But if the guy has money -- boom, instant "hot chick/ugly ass fat old sugar daddy in club" scenario. Great integrity there huh?

I wish i had a dime for every guy i knew who was fat, bald, ugly -- gets signed to a record label -- BOOM -- he's doing blow and bangin' hot chicks in his malibu guesthouse every weekend.

Looks mean shit when u got the cash and the "status".
 
tell that to groupies.

In my world of hollywood velvet rope clubs, underground clubs, hollywood mansions, backstage concerts, etc. etc. -- the gq short hair guys who frequent hollywood clubs all get into fights and get nothing. Neither do wannabee long haired musicains. Who get to enjoy the finest selection of fat chicks LA has to offer....

BUT! the fat ass old producers, agents, "rock stars", skinny heroin losers, mexican gangbanger chicos, mafia losers, lipstick lesbians, club owners, pimp daddies, bouncer types are the ones getting the hot chicks.

I wish i could go into clubs and take pictures of the guys who are holding hands with the hot chicks to show people. They don't have long hair, they don't look like GQ folks -- they look like losers. Oh yeah - they got money, status, blow, fame or power.

Trust me -- there ain't a plethora of hot chicks standing outside gyms trying to score with hot well built men.

Go outside a White Strokes or Disturbed or Rap show...and it's a whole different ballgame.

Welcome to reality.
 
Razorguns said:
tell that to groupies.

In my world of hollywood velvet rope clubs, underground clubs, hollywood mansions, backstage concerts, etc. etc. -- the gq short hair guys who frequent hollywood clubs all get into fights and get nothing. Neither do wannabee long haired musicains. Who get to enjoy the finest selection of fat chicks LA has to offer....

BUT! the fat ass old producers, agents, "rock stars", skinny heroin losers, mexican gangbanger chicos, mafia losers, lipstick lesbians, club owners, pimp daddies, bouncer types are the ones getting the hot chicks.

I wish i could go into clubs and take pictures of the guys who are holding hands with the hot chicks to show people. They don't have long hair, they don't look like GQ folks -- they look like losers. Oh yeah - they got money, status, blow, fame or power.

Trust me -- there ain't a plethora of hot chicks standing outside gyms trying to score with hot well built men.

Go outside a White Strokes or Disturbed or Rap show...and it's a whole different ballgame.

Welcome to reality.


Dang dude, this is making me want to shoot up heroin instead of going to the gym. I know it would be a hell of a lot easier.
 
It all depends on the guy there are very few that can pull it off but for the ones that can it is pretty hot.
My two cents. :qt:
 
Razorguns said:
OMG. You're NOT bi???

That's disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself. You've been stricken off the 10/10 EF chick list!!! Change, dammit change!!!

Women are funny. They have high standards on looks. But if the guy has money -- boom, instant "hot chick/ugly ass fat old sugar daddy in club" scenario. Great integrity there huh?

I wish i had a dime for every guy i knew who was fat, bald, ugly -- gets signed to a record label -- BOOM -- he's doing blow and bangin' hot chicks in his malibu guesthouse every weekend.

Looks mean shit when u got the cash and the "status".

Why on earth are you so offended? I am stating a personal preference that has nothing to do with money or status and is COMPLETELY changeable with little money or effort.

For the record I have dated many men who were so wealthy they never had to work a day in their lives. Rarely made it to date two... MY CHOICE most often. Conversely I have hopelessly loved (or a feeling that I mistook for love) a man that didn't have a pot to piss in, single father of a few young children. So there goes BOTH your theories.

I am merely stating that I do not find longer hair on a man remotely physically appealing. Never have and doubt I ever will.
 
I agreed and already said most long haired guys are butt ugly...

I SAID!!! i find it disgusting you're not into women! Ewww!!!!
 
Werd said:
I have never ever EVER found even remotely long hair on a guy the least bit attractive. As a matter of fact, for me, it is a TOTAL TURN OFF.

A man's hair can never be too short. EVER...

And if that shit is getting thin, then shave that fucker off!

Nothing says, "I gots tons of attitude" like a guy who shaves his head.

God help me, but I soooooooo have a weakness for "attitude". ;)

Y'Know it's women (ah fuck that's most women) like you that make us nice guys feel like shit. Sigh...
 
Bigdawg1468 said:
How about bald good looking dudes :evil: ;)

Bald? maybe....

Good looking? Chances are better...

But the REALLY important question is:


HOW WELL CAN HE EAT PUSSY?! :verygood:



:chomp:
 
jd_uk said:
Y'Know it's women (ah fuck that's most women) like you that make us nice guys feel like shit. Sigh...

Sugar you misunderstood what I meant by "attitude".

The attitude I spoke of is TOTAL NICE GUY... I was talking confidence. Not ASSHOLE CHICK ABUSER. LOL
 
Werd said:
Bald? maybe....

Good looking? Chances are better...

But the REALLY important question is:


HOW WELL CAN HE EAT PUSSY?! :verygood:



:chomp:

I can only speak for this good looking bald guy, and I come highly recommended :evil: :evil: ;)
 
You do know there's a small line between what you think is "attitude" and what turns in 10 seconds into "asshole cheating chick abuser" right??

Who wants a future 50 y/o father of 3 with "attitude".

And you wonder why most women grow up as single moms and jaded.

I'm sure Pamela Anderson thought Tommy Lee had "attitude".
 
Werd said:
Sugar you misunderstood what I meant by "attitude".

The attitude I spoke of is TOTAL NICE GUY... I was talking confidence. Not ASSHOLE CHICK ABUSER. LOL

Well firstly your calling of me 'sugar' only goes to prove my point.

Secondly, I homestly think a lot of women confuse asshole with confidence. In fact I know they do, because in the end they get hurt by the 'nice guy with attitude and confidence' and think hmmmm i thought he was a nice guy.

Fuckin great. Ah well I'm slightly bitter.
 
Razorguns said:
You do know there's a small line between what you think is "attitude" and what turns in 10 seconds into "asshole cheating chick abuser" right??

Who wants a future 50 y/o father of 3 with "attitude".

And you wonder why most women grow up as single moms and jaded.

I'm sure Pamela Anderson thought Tommy Lee had "attitude".

Actually I disagree... I think there is a gap a mile wide between "attitude" and "asshole cheating chick abuser".

I may be a single mom but I am trying NOT to be jaded. I realize with my head that all men are not creeps. I just need time to be able 2 feel it in my heart.
 
Bigdawg1468 said:
I can only speak for this good looking bald guy, and I come highly recommended :evil: :evil: ;)

Hhhhhhhhhhhmmmm

Promises, promises.... I told you already.

THE PROOF IS IN THE EATING OF THE PUSSY! :evil:
 
Razorguns said:
You do know there's a small line between what you think is "attitude" and what turns in 10 seconds into "asshole cheating chick abuser" right??

Who wants a future 50 y/o father of 3 with "attitude".

And you wonder why most women grow up as single moms and jaded.

I'm sure Pamela Anderson thought Tommy Lee had "attitude".

Damn straight.

Werd, notice he said "find line between WHAT YOU THINK IS 'ATTITUDE' ".

Genearlly a guy that has attitude, slightly cocky etc is gonna be a complete cunt. Just the way it works.

Unfortunately for women, and for the nicer guys....women have a fuckin hard time realising this. Sometimes I think maybe women don't want to realise it.

That is why so many women get completely fucked over by guys who were once 'nice but confident' and turn out to be complete assholes.

Razor Guns' Tommy Lee example is spot on.
 
my boy has sort of long hair about to his shoulders and he pulls quite a bit of tang but his head is a really weird shape without the long hair he would get none.
 
jd_uk said:
Well firstly your calling of me 'sugar' only goes to prove my point.

Secondly, I homestly think a lot of women confuse asshole with confidence. In fact I know they do, because in the end they get hurt by the 'nice guy with attitude and confidence' and think hmmmm i thought he was a nice guy.

Fuckin great. Ah well I'm slightly bitter.

Darlin'.... I generally refer to EVERYONE with a similar term of endearment -Sugarplumb, Sugar, Darlin'... these terms of endearment are acutally used by me because of one of the nicer memories of a man that I was very much in love with a long time ago. It turns out that the man I was in love with and THE REAL MAN were two completely different people so ultimately there was a lot of ugliness that arose. I am trying very hard to forget the ugliness, but I want to remember the sweet and gentle ways that he effected me. Refering to people in this fashion is one of them.

And I have honestly had my fair share of asshole cheating chick abusers - batterers, abusers, compulsive liars... you name it, I was with them.

ALL ON ME.

I do not associate with men of this sort anymore. And am taking my damned sweet time to make sure that the next guy I get involved with will most certainly NOT fall into any of the aforementioned categories.

I have guy friends that are beyond nice, some have attitude, some do not but NOT ONE is abusive in any way shape or form. If I get a hint of it... I am waaaaaaaaaay outta there in nothing flat.
 
jd_uk said:
Damn straight.

Werd, notice he said "find line between WHAT YOU THINK IS 'ATTITUDE' ".

Genearlly a guy that has attitude, slightly cocky etc is gonna be a complete cunt. Just the way it works.

Unfortunately for women, and for the nicer guys....women have a fuckin hard time realising this. Sometimes I think maybe women don't want to realise it.

That is why so many women get completely fucked over by guys who were once 'nice but confident' and turn out to be complete assholes.

Razor Guns' Tommy Lee example is spot on.

Tommy Lee was a crazed abusive possessive asshole. He did not have "attitude", he had mental problems. Pam Lee tolerated it. How do I know... because I used to be JUST LIKER HER!

Once a chick pulls her head out of her ass allowing her "asshole chick abusing radar" to properly function the once thin line between nice guy with attitude and total fucking loser scumsucking asshole becomes the gradn fucking canyon.
 
Werd said:
Darlin'.... I generally refer to EVERYONE with a similar term of endearment -Sugarplumb, Sugar, Darlin'... these terms of endearment are acutally used by me because of one of the nicer memories of a man that I was very much in love with a long time ago. It turns out that the man I was in love with and THE REAL MAN were two completely different people so ultimately there was a lot of ugliness that arose. I am trying very hard to forget the ugliness, but I want to remember the sweet and gentle ways that he effected me. Refering to people in this fashion is one of them.

And I have honestly had my fair share of asshole cheating chick abusers - batterers, abusers, compulsive liars... you name it, I was with them.

ALL ON ME.

I do not associate with men of this sort anymore. And am taking my damned sweet time to make sure that the next guy I get involved with will most certainly NOT fall into any of the aforementioned categories.

I have guy friends that are beyond nice, some have attitude, some do not but NOT ONE is abusive in any way shape or form. If I get a hint of it... I am waaaaaaaaaay outta there in nothing flat.

Well I'm having a hard time believing you on the 'sugar, sweetheart' thing. In my experience and from reading womens posts on here it is used in a patronising way with the deliberate aim of pissing off whoever you're talking to and getting on higher ground.

"I have guy friends that are beyond nice, some have attitude, some do not but NOT ONE is abusive in any way shape or form." - Exactly, you have lot of guy FRIENDS that are beyond nice.

You said it yourself, you're attracted to guys with attitude....generally guys with attitude are assholes...the sooner you realise taht then the better of you'll be. Learn from this mistake which you seem to have made many times in the past. (as with pretty much all women GRRRRR)

Dunno why I'm even bothering arguing this....women are attracted firstly to complete bastards with attitude and confidence, over a more caring, nicer guy any day.

It's just a fact.

Right, time to go and put on a cocky, arrogant front to go and pull plenty of sexy women. (Btw this works...I pull much more women when i'm being cocky and arrogant and generally a complete bastard to when I'm 'just being myself')
 
>Actually I disagree... I think there is a gap a mile wide between "attitude" >and "asshole cheating chick abuser".

Guess what. we're GUYS. We know how we are.

Today's "guys with attitudes" are tomorrow's "40 y/o wife beaters". They don't just go from "so how are you sweetie?" to "bam! shut the FUCK up bitch!" overnight.

Follow me so far? And women who have a sea of ex-bfs only prove that they DON'T know how to pick partners. So that shows their "well groomed pattern of picking good men" is flawed.

>head that all men are not creeps. I just need time to be able 2 feel it in my >heart.

As a single mom -- YOU of all should be more inclined to date the NICE guy. I'm sure your child would be really excited to know that mommy is out to find guys with "attitudes" instead of "nice" guys who have a head on their shoulders, a stable career, and is the supporting type that could actually SUPPORT a single mom and help RAISE a child and love them.

the way life work is -- once women get to around 35 or so, and the thighs start to expand, and the wrinkles start to appear -- THEN they immedaitely start changing their agenda, and start looking for the "nice" guy with the "good" job. Attitudes then become so "yesterday and old school".
 
Werd said:
Tommy Lee was a crazed abusive possessive asshole. He did not have "attitude", he had mental problems. Pam Lee tolerated it. How do I know... because I used to be JUST LIKER HER!

Once a chick pulls her head out of her ass allowing her "asshole chick abusing radar" to properly function the once thin line between nice guy with attitude and total fucking loser scumsucking asshole becomes the gradn fucking canyon.


So you reckon she was initially attracted to the fact that he was an abusive possesive asshole? Bollocks. She was initially attracted to his "attitude" and you know it. Then, she realised his asshole side as all women that make this mistake will do.

There's no point trying to argue something you know isn't true.
 
Razorguns said:
>Actually I disagree... I think there is a gap a mile wide between "attitude" >and "asshole cheating chick abuser".

Guess what. we're GUYS. We know how we are.

Today's "guys with attitudes" are tomorrow's "40 y/o wife beaters". They don't just go from "so how are you sweetie?" to "bam! shut the FUCK up bitch!" overnight.

Follow me so far? And women who have a sea of ex-bfs only prove that they DON'T know how to pick partners. So that shows their "well groomed pattern of picking good men" is flawed.

>head that all men are not creeps. I just need time to be able 2 feel it in my >heart.

As a single mom -- YOU of all should be more inclined to date the NICE guy. I'm sure your child would be really excited to know that mommy is out to find guys with "attitudes" instead of "nice" guys who have a head on their shoulders, a stable career, and is the supporting type that could actually SUPPORT a single mom and help RAISE a child and love them.

the way life work is -- once women get to around 35 or so, and the thighs start to expand, and the wrinkles start to appear -- THEN they immedaitely start changing their agenda, and start looking for the "nice" guy with the "good" job. Attitudes then become so "yesterday and old school".

You make far too many assumptions. First off, I date a lot... but never make it to the second date, sometimes it is the man's choice, but usually it is MINE. In the 3 + years my kids have met one man ONCE. The next man they meet will be a man that I will most likely marry... or they AINT meetin him.

I am nearling 37 and I have a better body than most 22 year old women, have no intention of letting that go anytime soon. And I wear my wrinkles proudly... My beauty comes from the inside out and not the other way around.

I support myself and my kids with the help of my family. My ex is THE ULTIMATE ABUSIVE ASSHOLE.

You know very little about battered women's syndrome. The women KNOW that these guys are abusive assholes from the getco, but because that is how they were raised - to believe that this treatment was not only acceptable BUT A NECESSARY PART OF LOVE they not only tolerate it, but accept it. And guess what else? Not only are their men abusive assholes, but their friends are as well!!!

Sadly I know this for a fact as it is my life.

The good news is that just like any negative behavior can be learned it can also be unlearned.... though not without a lot of hard work and certainly not overnight.

I am not looking for a relationship as I am still needing to do a lot of work on ME before I can feel comfortable enough to make a judgement as to who is a nice guy with attitude and who is an asshole thinly vieled as a nice guy. I can tell the abusive assholes a mile away, but I am still afraid to trust my judgement - so I offer friendship to most men as an alternative to "dating". The men that accept this stay in my life. Those that do not, well that is their choice and I don't lose sleep over it.
 
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jd_uk said:
Well I'm having a hard time believing you on the 'sugar, sweetheart' thing. In my experience and from reading womens posts on here it is used in a patronising way with the deliberate aim of pissing off whoever you're talking to and getting on higher ground.

"I have guy friends that are beyond nice, some have attitude, some do not but NOT ONE is abusive in any way shape or form." - Exactly, you have lot of guy FRIENDS that are beyond nice.

You said it yourself, you're attracted to guys with attitude....generally guys with attitude are assholes...the sooner you realise taht then the better of you'll be. Learn from this mistake which you seem to have made many times in the past. (as with pretty much all women GRRRRR)

Dunno why I'm even bothering arguing this....women are attracted firstly to complete bastards with attitude and confidence, over a more caring, nicer guy any day.

It's just a fact.

Right, time to go and put on a cocky, arrogant front to go and pull plenty of sexy women. (Btw this works...I pull much more women when i'm being cocky and arrogant and generally a complete bastard to when I'm 'just being myself')

I can see where you think I am trying to be patronizing but many people on this board know me and can atest to the fact that I also write my emails and have chats and even speak that way in "real" time. You can choose to believe me or not. It is up to you.

I do agree that a lot of women ARE attracted to assholes. I used to be one of them. But conversely I can tell you that I find the guys that I treat with total "I don't care" attitude NEVER GO AWAY while the ones that I bend over backwards to accomodate are TOTAL ASSHOLES....

Could it just be that MAYBE because I was too fucked up in the past (which I have openly admitted to like a dozen times on this thread alone) to separate the nice guys from the assholes. It wasn't that I was attracting assholes by being nice, but just that I was being nice to assholes?!

Your feelings about my final statement?
 
Here. Let me give you some insight into a part of the male world you women never hear from:

The Male "Asshole".

Pretty much every guy on this board is the token "nice guy" and you'll never hear anyone claim to be anything else. But all you hear in real life is hot chicks that date and get treated like shit from "assholes". Well who are these guys? Where do they exist? And why do they always seem to attract the hottest chicks?

Well *I* was one of them! And goddamit you women FUCKING LOVED ME! to no end.

Years ago, when I was 21+ -- i had short hair, young and a bone to pick with the world. I dated TONS of chicks, and I would BEAT them, YELL at them, CHEAT on them, STALK them, HARASS them, make them feel like SHIT, and adding insult to injury, make them BUY shit for me. You heard me correct:

I would punch, pull, slap them to no end. I'd go into their work and yell at them in front of their co-workers. I'd pull over the car on the freeway and yell and punch them and kick them out of the car. I'd cause scenes in casinos. I'd sleep with their best friends. I'd have new gf's call my current gf's and tell them how much they loved me. I'd make gf's feel guilty, just so they can buy me stuff. I'd spit on them. I'd yell at their parents. I'd yell at their friends. I didn't give a shit.

Oh and I'm sure when they met me they ALL thought I had great "attitude". I had piercing green eyes, muscular, tall and looked like john stamos with a rebel streak. Hell I could steal other guys gf's in a club. Let's put it that way (and did!). It was unbelievable:

I mean, i even had FAMILY MEMBERS come steal gf's out of my house and fly them across the country cuz they were afraid i would seriously harm them one day. I'd have cops show up at my house and warn me to stay away from my gf -- only to have the gf show up 2 hours later, apologizing for calling the cops. Hell, I would even throw clothing and furniture out on the street to show them lessons. I was asshole to the FUCKING T.

But they "loved" me. Not a SINGLE gf (and ALL of them were HOT! I'd have guys always ask how come I got the hottest chicks???) ever left me on her own. They always kept coming back. I even beat-up ex-bfs trying to be knights in shining armor. I was that fucking out of control.

----

But you know what. I HATED myself. I was suicidal, and knew either I was gonna be in jail, or wind up dead. The one day -- I had an epiphany. In 99 I had enough, quit my job, moved out of CT and the nightmare there, and onwards to LA. I didn't even want to look in the mirror and be reminded of the monster I was, so i started growing my hair, swore to never hit another person again or make them cry, put all my anger into a passion for guitar -- and make something constructive out of my life.

Hence, I became...."a nice guy".

Oh, and women stopped being attracted to me. For that very such reason.

But I didn't care. I was HAPPY with me. I had actual GOALS in life. I had positive people around me, and yeah I don't have 20 chicks around me now. But i felt better with what I do and who *I* was. And that's all that mattered.

So NOW when I hear about women dating assholes and keep going back to them -- I know all about it. Cuz *I* was one of them.

And yes. I had "attitude". Fucking OOZES of it.
 
And what became of those women?


They all finally began to realize their looks were fading and thrills with jerks were coming to an end, so they sucker a 'nice guy' into marrying them, charging him a far higher price in time and money for their affection, eventually the marriage for sex becomes a sexless marriage, and henceforth the divorce occurs, the woman is set and the 'nice guy' who thought he finally won in the end is jaded and destroyed.


This is not an uncommon phenomenon. It's the general norm. www.nomarriage.com
 
Werd said:
I have never ever EVER found even remotely long hair on a guy the least bit attractive. As a matter of fact, for me, it is a TOTAL TURN OFF.

A man's hair can never be too short. EVER...

And if that shit is getting thin, then shave that fucker off!

Nothing says, "I gots tons of attitude" like a guy who shaves his head.

God help me, but I soooooooo have a weakness for "attitude". ;)

MM takes out the buzz cutter!
 
I think a lot of people are overlooking something here. Women are not attracted to assholes in general, they're attracted to natural leaders as all of us are. Every animal is. It's how we survive. The one who appears to be a leader just happens to be the one who is confident, maybe even arrogant. The man who walks around like he owns the place, like the alphamale marking his territory.

I used to go out with these two guys, both of whom i believe were abusive, one I know had raped a chick. These guys were assholes, but when we went out we got girls, because we owned the fucking place. I also have a group of friends that I go to clubs with, all of us are good looking cocky bastards, but None of us are abusive assholes, yet we all get tons of girls. These guys are nicer than me and get even more girls.

It is the attitude, not whether or not they'll be abusive. I don't understand how some guys who think that they're "nice guys" by letting everyone walk all over them find it unfair that girls don't want them. Being the follower who says "I can do that for you" isn't attractive.

BTW, I shave my head.
 
I am instantly attracted to men with shaved heads...why?!? I am not sure...but it is just one of those looks that I find irrestible.
 
I am instantly attracted to men with shaved heads...why?!? I am not sure...but it is just one of those looks that I find irrestible.
 
juicedbeachbum said:
I think a lot of people are overlooking something here. Women are not attracted to assholes in general, they're attracted to natural leaders as all of us are. Every animal is. It's how we survive. The one who appears to be a leader just happens to be the one who is confident, maybe even arrogant. The man who walks around like he owns the place, like the alphamale marking his territory.

I used to go out with these two guys, both of whom i believe were abusive, one I know had raped a chick. These guys were assholes, but when we went out we got girls, because we owned the fucking place. I also have a group of friends that I go to clubs with, all of us are good looking cocky bastards, but None of us are abusive assholes, yet we all get tons of girls. These guys are nicer than me and get even more girls.

It is the attitude, not whether or not they'll be abusive. I don't understand how some guys who think that they're "nice guys" by letting everyone walk all over them find it unfair that girls don't want them. Being the follower who says "I can do that for you" isn't attractive.

BTW, I shave my head.

I will not disagree with what you said.

It is not about whether or not a guys is an abusive asshole with attitude... it is whether the guy just has attitude - the alpha male thing is very attractive. It takes a bit of time to see whether or not that guy is a nice guy or not. An abusive asshole shows himself IMMEDIATELY. If a girl has selfesteem issues, she will ignore all the red flags (been there, done that).

So now I am taking my time to see which of these alpha males is cocky to some extent but is a good guy deep down or if he is NOT good guy deep down.

There aren't just two groups: ABUSIVE ASSHOLES and STRAIGHT UP NICE GUYS... there are many who fall somewhere inbetween. That is why there is a process called "dating" - so that one can weed them out.
 
Trust me. Us guys know how to reel a girl in and make her emotionally dependent upon us. Then we can do whatever the fuck we want. Read the news lately?: we have hot women in northern states that pretend to be lost and kidnapped for the SOLE purpose of getting the ATTENTION of her ex-bf!

Usually the hotter the chick, the lower her self-esteem is (don't ask, i can't figure that one either), and the more prone she is to being suckered in emotionally by some guy who can use her purely for his own benefit.

Which is why you find so many women stripping and working 12 hours a day in strip clubs, while their musician bf sits at home like a bum, watching tv, smoking weed, playing guitar and just living off of them.
 
Razorguns said:
Trust me. Us guys know how to reel a girl in and make her emotionally dependent upon us. Then we can do whatever the fuck we want. Read the news lately?: we have hot women in northern states that pretend to be lost and kidnapped for the SOLE purpose of getting the ATTENTION of her ex-bf!

Usually the hotter the chick, the lower her self-esteem is (don't ask, i can't figure that one either), and the more prone she is to being suckered in emotionally by some guy who can use her purely for his own benefit.

Which is why you find so many women stripping and working 12 hours a day in strip clubs, while their musician bf sits at home like a bum, watching tv, smoking weed, playing guitar and just living off of them.

Not all women who dance/strip are like that (though I do concede there is a majority that fit this... you'll get no arguement from me in this arena at all).

Just as not all women who are teachers or counselors or doctors for that matter are any less morally bankrupt w/equally low self esteem issues.

TRUST ME ON THAT ONE.
 
rnch said:
yeh, there is at lleast 2 of us here.....

Hhhhhhhhhhhmmmmm that so?

Maybe we oughtta have a "sexiest bald dude on ef" thread....

Ehehheehheheheheheheeee

Oh god, I don't know why this idea has got me laughing so hard, but it just does. :FRlol:
 
Werd said:
Hhhhhhhhhhhmmmmm that so?

Maybe we oughtta have a "sexiest bald dude on ef" thread....

Ehehheehheheheheheheeee

Oh god, I don't know why this idea has got me laughing so hard, but it just does. :FRlol:
HMMMMMM...... the idea "has got me" also........ ;) :evil: :p
 
rnch said:
HMMMMMM...... the idea "has got me" also........ ;) :evil: :p


All this does for me is make me wonder where this other bald good looking dude is besides me ;)

BAM!!!!!!!! thank you, goodnight, I will be here all week ;)
 
toga22 said:
I am instantly attracted to men with shaved heads...why?!? I am not sure...but it is just one of those looks that I find irrestible.

*shaves head*
 
Razorguns said:
Which is why you find so many women stripping and working 12 hours a day in strip clubs, while their musician bf sits at home like a bum, watching tv, smoking weed, playing guitar and just living off of them.

How do dudes do that razor what is the secret? I play guitar and I love watching tv and use to like smoking weed. I just need the chick that I can live off of. :D
 
because strippers are fucked up.

hence, they are attracted to guys who are also fucked up. It works out beautifully.

Kinda funny. All day they are swarmed and woo'd by guys flaunting their money. End of the night -- they go home to a broke bum. :)
 
Bigdawg1468 said:
All this does for me is make me wonder where this other bald good looking dude is besides me ;)

BAM!!!!!!!! thank you, goodnight, I will be here all week ;)
good looking, bald, tanned, big and..........MODEST :rolleyes:
 
rnch said:
good looking, bald, tanned, big and..........MODEST :rolleyes:


A hairy thread without RNCH input is worthless as he doesnt miss any oportunity to advertise his bald coconut....Aint that right bald man? :)
 
out_at_sea said:
A hairy thread without RNCH input is worthless as he doesnt miss any oportunity to advertise his bald coconut....Aint that right bald man? :)
well, you always go with your best assests.......it still cracks me up that some peeps actually read and recall what i post here on elite! ;)
 
Women being attracted to natural leaders I can understand and respect.


Women being attracted to assholes for the simple fact that they are assholes I could never respect.
 
Frackal19 said:
Women being attracted to natural leaders I can understand and respect.


Women being attracted to assholes for the simple fact that they are assholes I could never respect.

Finally, something we agree upon.




...and you always thought it would have to be snowing in hell! ;)
 
Bigdawg1468 said:
Almost doesn't seem fair does it hehehehehehehe ;)
it's the cross i bear thru life.









we ARE talking about me and not you, right?
 
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