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i need some females to give me some advice for my g/f on what dosage of dnp two take.. be detailed please.. how long to take it and then how long do you have to stay off it.. thx
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for powder....200mg every 24hrs...then after a few days u can bump it to every 18hrs ... u can run it for 7 days at a higher dose or 14 day like this..... all depends. there are also MANY MANY other factors that she needs to know about before she starts popping these pills. diet, supps...etc..... everything has to change while ur on dnp..... please do some searches on this stuff and read read read...... u need to be careful and have everything in order before u do this. good luck........
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thx alot.
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new@gettinbig
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How long has your girl been training? What is her bodyfat? Diet? What are her goals? Is she on anything else? DNP can be some dangerous stuff....get your girl on the board and have her do a search...there have been several posts about this topic...I am w/ triple V..be careful
NY Muscle
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man i get so crazy when i hear that someone wants to put their GF on DNP..it could be because a few yrs ago in my town a girl died from DNP and it was confirmed that DNP did it, after her boyfriend gave her the capsules.....this is one drug/chemical i wouldnt give to a girl i loved, only cause it can kill you, and unless u make the capsules yourself like i have in the past, then you have no idea how many mg are in a cap, i wouldnt trust any source but myself. ive tried this shit a few times and so have my friends, its ruff and id risk my own health but NEVER that of a girl that i cared about. if you must put her on DNP,stick to the safe doses 200mg...
one final thought which kind of reflects what i was saying on the *fina for a girl* thread.......how many people want to bet that this girl never heard of DNP until her boyfriend told her about it?.............
one final thought which kind of reflects what i was saying on the *fina for a girl* thread.......how many people want to bet that this girl never heard of DNP until her boyfriend told her about it?.............
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FASTECLIPSE
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thx for the suggestions.. she wants to use it.. and knows about it.. she just wants me to get it for her..
VooDoo Lady
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I know this is a controversial conclusion - but certainly a warning that EVERY WOMAN should be aware of b4 taking DNP -
There is a possibly that DNP causes damage to eggs and can cause birth defects...
Man, I hope she is 110% positive she isn't going to be getting pregnant ever again.
VDL
There is a possibly that DNP causes damage to eggs and can cause birth defects...
Man, I hope she is 110% positive she isn't going to be getting pregnant ever again.
VDL
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NY Muscle said:
that is not true.. it is not good to take when pregnant.. doesnt keep you from getting pregnant... i could be wrong.. so if you could show me some proof of that.. because i have read just about every article about dnp.. thx
VooDoo Lady
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You're not getting what I am saying. When a woman takes DNP, there is a good possibility her eggs are damaged, and later, if she gets pregnant, the child could have birth defects from the damage the DNP caused to the eggs…
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FASTECLIPSE
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ok i see now what your saying.. she is on depot shot and doesnt have to worry about getting pregnant..
VooDoo Lady
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I'm sorry, but I STILL don't think you get my point. There is a possibility (a good possibility) that IT PERMANENTLY damages eggs - 10 years from now, if she gets pregnant, she could have a child with birth defects because of the damage the DNP did to her eggs today.
See??
DNP Diary
Important reading before doing a DNP cycle:
http://www.stacksandweights.com/page9.html
Good luck and good lifting.....and be careful with this stuff!
pwrlftr
Important reading before doing a DNP cycle:
http://www.stacksandweights.com/page9.html
Good luck and good lifting.....and be careful with this stuff!
pwrlftr
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VooDoo Lady said:
ok i see.. sorry brain fart.. i quess this is something i will have to address to her.. see if it is worth it or not.. thx for the info
FASTECLIPSE
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Re: DNP Diary
good post verry interesting.. that is great results...
pwrlftr said:
good post verry interesting.. that is great results...
SonnyBlack
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FASTECLIPSE said:
GO GIVE IT TO YOUR CHICK AND GO HAVE RETARDED KIDS ALREADY! IT SEEMS LIKE YOURE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO ALL THE GOOD ADVICE THESE GOOD PEOPLE ARE GIVING YOU.
FASTECLIPSE
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i am looking at everyones advice.. and i have read several studies on dnp and none show any problems with womans eggs.. could you show me some proof please.. so i can show her the pros and cons to this.. this is her discision not mine.. i am just showing her the facts..
NubianBeauty
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You know people post here on the boards looking for information NOT to be flamed and it seems to me that more and more people are getting flamed for asking ANY type of question. The sarcasm is unbelievable. Not everyone is an expert on every topic and people are seeking education (well most) and not to be ridiculed. Just my .02.
VooDoo Lady
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me? 
sarcasic and judgmental?
I didn't mean to sound like a know it all (because, OBVIOUSLY I'm NOT), or like a bitch (ok, that I AM), or judgmental (wellll, I'm this pretty frequently), but it was an important point and I felt like he just wasn't gettin' it.....
What we do to our own bodies and minds is our own personal business and Lord knows I've pumped some pretty shitty stuff into the old bod over the years....
But, TO ME, it's the ultimate in selfish and disgusting to risk the health of your child (or future children) to avoid some hard dieting and cardio.
Just my .02
VDL
sarcasic and judgmental? I didn't mean to sound like a know it all (because, OBVIOUSLY I'm NOT), or like a bitch (ok, that I AM), or judgmental (wellll, I'm this pretty frequently), but it was an important point and I felt like he just wasn't gettin' it.....
What we do to our own bodies and minds is our own personal business and Lord knows I've pumped some pretty shitty stuff into the old bod over the years....
But, TO ME, it's the ultimate in selfish and disgusting to risk the health of your child (or future children) to avoid some hard dieting and cardio.
Just my .02
VDL
NubianBeauty
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VooDoo, that was not directed toward your comments. You were not rude in any way, but the comment from SonnyBlack was not necessary.
, but the comment from SonnyBlack was not necessary.
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SonnyBlack
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NubianBeauty said:VooDoo, that was not directed toward your comments. You were not rude in any way
yea well everyone here is trying to tell this guy that dnp is no joke and that the possible future of his girl having egg damage is very likely and he doesnt seem to grasp the severity of the situation. I know i may have come on strong and i do apologize but im trying to tell this guy that dnp is serious business and if it meant causing MY girlfriend damage in return for a few less pounds of fat...id tell her not to do it. Take this advice however you like.
FASTECLIPSE
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thx alot for the advice.. now if someone could show me proof of documentation that it does damage eggs.. i have talked to several woman that have taken it and have never complained about any physical damage.. i would just like to see some medical studies that show proof that it can damage eggs.. because lord knows we would not want that..
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oh and another thing.. i get tired of people saying dont take steroids or dnp they will kill you.. but people are quick to say take things with ephedrine in them.. i guarantee there are way more deaths related to ephedrine based products than steroids or dnp...
just my .02
just my .02
FASTECLIPSE
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the problem with clen is that it isnt much better than ECA stack..
Sassy69
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Because this is an internet board, all sorts of info is going to fly across. Some people come on to repeat the stuff that they "think" they know and some actually get a kick out of perpetuating misinformation. Thus it is left up to the reader/visitor/poster to take everything he / she reads w/ a certain grain of salt. Additionally it is ultimately up to him/her to choose how to move forward (or not) with whatever is the issue, given the information or crap that has been supplied.
DNP is still extremely controversial. Those warnings are well-intended and may be based on personal experience or not. I think the best thing that can be brought away from this particular thread is the selection of personal experiences and also as much real information as possible. Frankly I'm sure every one of the "supps" discussed on this board has at least a few horror stories associated w/ it.
FE is indeed very intelligent for wanting to see the hard facts. I've been digging through my collected stuff to find the answers. But I would like to kick this to the top for macro or Fonz to address the egg question. I can't find the specific reference I thought I had.
DNP is still extremely controversial. Those warnings are well-intended and may be based on personal experience or not. I think the best thing that can be brought away from this particular thread is the selection of personal experiences and also as much real information as possible. Frankly I'm sure every one of the "supps" discussed on this board has at least a few horror stories associated w/ it.
FE is indeed very intelligent for wanting to see the hard facts. I've been digging through my collected stuff to find the answers. But I would like to kick this to the top for macro or Fonz to address the egg question. I can't find the specific reference I thought I had.
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new@gettinbig
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Bottom line is research and educate...she needs to be informed of everything...she also needs to make sure her diet and training is 100% ON!!!! Taking shit doesn't pick up the slack and it doesn't work any kind of miracles...and how long will the results she gets from dnp last?? Keep that in mind too...
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thx again sassy69.. great post.. and thx new@gettinbig.. we talked about it tonight and i had told her the pros and cons and she said she wanted to read all the info i had gathered so far.. she really wants to lose weight, but at the same time doesnt want to harm herself.. obesity runs in her family and she doesnt want it to get out of hand... She didnt gain the weight by eating like a pig.. she gained most of it because of birthcontrol.. mainly depot shot.. which her doctor took her off of because of the weight gains.. now she is on a diverent shot that has not shown any weight gains with her.. now she just wants to get where she was.. i know she can do it and i will help her all the way through it..
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Awwww...you are sweet...NOW GO KICK HER ASS IN THE GYM!!!!!!!
macrophage69alpha
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There is no evidence that DNP affects eggs.
I once theorized that such damage MIGHT be possible due to DNP's saturation of body tissues, which might include eggs/ovaries.
but NOTHING in the literature suggests that there was an increase in birth defects among the 100,000+ women that took in in the thirties.
NOTE - DNP IS NOT A CARCINOGEN. It is not entirely clear that it is even a teratogen.
DNP from a chemical standpoint is rather safe.... there are many otc drugs that are considerably more likely to cause birth defects and over doses.
DNP if well understood and aware of your own response to it... remembering that crystal and powder are very different (which is where some of the recent problems with DNP have come from).. it can be a safe and effective way to lose weight. However it is illegal and it can, if used improperly, kill you (though this is a LOT less likely than most make it out).
JMHO
btw- 1g of quercetin a day can make a big difference in allergice reaction possibility.
I once theorized that such damage MIGHT be possible due to DNP's saturation of body tissues, which might include eggs/ovaries.
but NOTHING in the literature suggests that there was an increase in birth defects among the 100,000+ women that took in in the thirties.
NOTE - DNP IS NOT A CARCINOGEN. It is not entirely clear that it is even a teratogen.
DNP from a chemical standpoint is rather safe.... there are many otc drugs that are considerably more likely to cause birth defects and over doses.
DNP if well understood and aware of your own response to it... remembering that crystal and powder are very different (which is where some of the recent problems with DNP have come from).. it can be a safe and effective way to lose weight. However it is illegal and it can, if used improperly, kill you (though this is a LOT less likely than most make it out).
JMHO
btw- 1g of quercetin a day can make a big difference in allergice reaction possibility.
NY Muscle
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FASTECLIPSE said:
the problem with dnp is the LETHAL dose is so close to the EFFECTIVE dose that people take for fat loss....youd have to take like 100 ephedrine to kill u if it even would, you only have to take a few extra caps of DNP to kill you......like i said a girl in my town died of dnp, another kid whos a moron, forgot how many caps he had taken one day and decided to take 2 more, he began vomitting thick orange crap, i seen it, and it was gross, this kid is an idiot, hes lukcy all he did was vomit.
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well the fact on dnp is if you know the facts and the guidelines to taking this drug, it is just as safe if not safer as the over the counter drugs you can get.. from what i have read so far and i am by no means a professional.. the best bet to taking dnp would be to take the minimal dosage and take a slow approach to losing the fat.. go with a 200mg dosage and take it longer.. you still get the same results.. so you only lose 7-10 lbs a week.. that is still alot more than you could have lost on a traditional diet and exercise..
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oh and thx macro for the insight on the debate on wether it effects the females eggs..
Ceebs
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Something I don't think anyone's mentioned yet...
DNP's method of action is through the mitochondria. Therefore, the more mitochondria one has, the more ATP one will burn at rest, both on DNP and off. If your girl doesn't have much muscle on her from weightlifting, she might not get as good of results from her DNP cycle, as she would if she were a trained athlete. Maybe it's late and I'm on crack, but I didn't see you mention her excercise habits anywhere in this thread. A little iron goes a long way...
To clarify Macro's point about the eggs, we women are born with all of the eggs we'll ever have, while you men are constantly renewing your supply of reproductive slush. So although you might nut yellow for a few days after ceasing DNP, once that stuff is in our systems, it may very well be there for life. Caveat, DNPer.
DNP's method of action is through the mitochondria. Therefore, the more mitochondria one has, the more ATP one will burn at rest, both on DNP and off. If your girl doesn't have much muscle on her from weightlifting, she might not get as good of results from her DNP cycle, as she would if she were a trained athlete. Maybe it's late and I'm on crack, but I didn't see you mention her excercise habits anywhere in this thread. A little iron goes a long way...
To clarify Macro's point about the eggs, we women are born with all of the eggs we'll ever have, while you men are constantly renewing your supply of reproductive slush. So although you might nut yellow for a few days after ceasing DNP, once that stuff is in our systems, it may very well be there for life. Caveat, DNPer.
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