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i've been an undersized linebacker for too long, i've obtained somewhat of an education on steroids but i want some raw info.
-this will be my first cycle
-i'm 6'1, 215, 20 years old
-i'm looking for about 15 permanent pounds and an increase in speed with a decrease in bf%

i stick to core and fast twitch muscle training with a lil bit of beach muscle training, Deca seems best suited for my needs and obviously some test.
My main concern is maintaing this new mass and discontinueing use after just one cycle; its not easy to evade testing in the NCAA... Thanks for your time.
 
MattMcC said:
i've been an undersized linebacker for too long, i've obtained somewhat of an education on steroids but i want some raw info.
-this will be my first cycle
-i'm 6'1, 215, 20 years old
-i'm looking for about 15 permanent pounds and an increase in speed with a decrease in bf%

i stick to core and fast twitch muscle training with a lil bit of beach muscle training, Deca seems best suited for my needs and obviously some test.
My main concern is maintaing this new mass and discontinueing use after just one cycle; its not easy to evade testing in the NCAA... Thanks for your time.
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If testing is a concern then Deca is out as it's metabolites can be found in your body for a long time after your cycle is concluded.

I'd say Winny is your next best option, but what makes you think you'll evade detection anyway with the way the NCAA does it's random testing?




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forget about the testing ... random testing is a very loose term in the NCAA especially in the SEC... if the testing was out of the picture would deca then be my best option? like i said, keeping the mass after the cycle is the biggest concern. whats your opinion on weaning yourself off the cycle and then all of the mass retaining techniques... cortison blockers, etc..?
thanks a ton for all the replies... that was fast!
 
man if you don't know how to come off you don't need to cycle you need to research and train natty until you have a greater knowledge of aas, they are nothing to be taken lightly bro.
 
MattMcC said:
forget about the testing ... random testing is a very loose term in the NCAA especially in the SEC... if the testing was out of the picture would deca then be my best option? like i said, keeping the mass after the cycle is the biggest concern. whats your opinion on weaning yourself off the cycle and then all of the mass retaining techniques... cortison blockers, etc..?
thanks a ton for all the replies... that was fast!
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Testing notwithstanding, Deca would work wonders, along with some Test to keep you functioning sexually. The lubrication that Deca provides along with the anabolic effect combined with the androgenic properties of Test will give you what you are looking for providing your diet is STR8 and training is on par.

I say Deca/Test.......exactly what you were looking at doing in the first place.


BTW: Fuck the SEC.....PAC-10 ALL DAY, EVERYDAY.....




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DIVISION said:
Testing notwithstanding, Deca would work wonders, along with some Test to keep you functioning sexually. The lubrication that Deca provides along with the anabolic effect combined with the androgenic properties of Test will give you what you are looking for providing your diet is STR8 and training is on par.

I say Deca/Test.......exactly what you were looking at doing in the first place.


BTW: Fuck the SEC.....PAC-10 ALL DAY, EVERYDAY.....




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No ^ WCC Gonzaga byatch
 
detroitbodybuildertigers said:
No ^ WCC Gonzaga byatch
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Father forgive me 'cause they not knowin, my shot's hot, baby tigers drop when my shot's flowin'........



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detroitbodybuildertigers said:
How's ASU this year in bball :)
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I like ASU as a school.........but their programs tend to underacheive annually.

UA has a better athletic department........



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asu disapointed me this season wih the footbal. UofA? come one, turn over 6 times. you may want to think about NPP, detection time is no where near as long as the decanoate ester, and it accomplishes the same thing. people that have experience with npp please chime in
 
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asu disapointed me this season wih the footbal. UofA? come one, turn over 6 times. you may want to think about NPP, detection time is no where near as long as the decanoate ester, and it accomplishes the same thing. people that have experience with npp please chime in
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Koetter doesn't exactly stress "defense", that's a major reason for their underacheiving nature.



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bro, what makes yo so sure you wont get tested? you do know that the ncaa now tests EVERY football team at least once a year dont you? its a new rule. and if you make it to a bowl game you WILL get tested again. at my school last year they came 3 times. this year just 1 time so far. if you do deca you'll be in trouble for 2 years worth of testing. if you are serious about football you will not do deca, trust me.



check out this link to the ncaa website:http://www1.ncaa.org/membership/ed_outreach/health-safety/drug_testing/d1_yr_faq.html

From that link:
Who will be drug tested beginning 2004-05 academic year?

Every Division I institution will be drug tested at least once each academic year beginning this fall. Please know, however, that your institution may be selected for testing more than once each academic year.
Every Division I sport your institution sponsors is now subject to out-of-competition (year-round) drug testing.
If your institution sponsors football, 18 football student-athletes plus eight student-athletes from one additional sport will be randomly selected for drug testing.
If your institution does not sponsor football, only eight student-athletes from one sport will be randomly selected


so as you can see, your team Will get tested at least 1 time and maybe more.....DECA = STUPID!!
 
MattMcC said:
forget about the testing ... random testing is a very loose term in the NCAA especially in the SEC... if the testing was out of the picture would deca then be my best option? like i said, keeping the mass after the cycle is the biggest concern. whats your opinion on weaning yourself off the cycle and then all of the mass retaining techniques... cortison blockers, etc..?
thanks a ton for all the replies... that was fast!
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im a little confused....

in your first post you said: " its not easy to evade testing in the NCAA..."

but then you said: "forget about the testing ... random testing is a very loose term in the NCAA especially in the SEC... " :xeye:

i hope you read my post above...
 
Someone of your size should have some Dbol in the cycle.

Saying that I don't think that you should be taking the drugs for a few more years:

You should have lots of growth-enducing hormones rushing around your body already. All of that will be prematurely killed when you do your first cycle, and they will NEVER be as potent after that.
 
Bro, forget about dbol. The way you described your training, the dbol sometimes counteracts the cardio intensity with cramps. Test propionate, NPP, and Anavar will yeild the results that you want without staying in your system too long. Just out of curiosity, do you think that you have reached your natural limit at 20? I didn't stop growing naturally until 24, @230 lbs. How big are some of your relatives? How long have you been at your present weight? I played middle lb in college and some pro ball. I didn't need to hit it until I was 25.
 
I played college ball and had to hide from testing so test prop with winny--keep it low and short my friend---avoid d-bol (made me slow with cramps) dont take anything with bloat-deca would be good except that it stays with you forever so stay away---get with 4-6 week cycles of prop and winny--you really dont need it though man-6'1" 215lbs is a good backer size--shit I was 5'11" 205 linbacker before I started when i played--if i were you i would stick to good supps--it aint worth it if you get caught
 
I would say wait, if you were a kid that just wanted to get big. But really, the fact of the matter is, Unless you are an extraordinary athlete, the juiice is gettin mandatory to take to just be able to compete these days .In sports today it seems like everyone is taking them highschool/college/professional levels. Im not saying everyone should take it, if you play sports. But atleast he is taking it for a purpose, and not because he wants to look good for spring break.
Good luck bro.
 
lefler said:
im a little confused....

in your first post you said: " its not easy to evade testing in the NCAA..."

but then you said: "forget about the testing ... random testing is a very loose term in the NCAA especially in the SEC... " :xeye:

i hope you read my post above...
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That's what I was alluding to........the lil' nugga was first concerned about NCAA drug testing, then when I prodded him about it, he's not really worried at all..........I don't get it? :confused:

That's a serious concern, he get's popped, he might lose his scholarship and eligibility.....so I would think it's a serious matter.





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musketeer said:
Someone of your size should have some Dbol in the cycle.

Saying that I don't think that you should be taking the drugs for a few more years:

You should have lots of growth-enducing hormones rushing around your body already. All of that will be prematurely killed when you do your first cycle, and they will NEVER be as potent after that.
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I agree, but he's going to do it anyway, so might as well give him the legit info.



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lefler said:
no doubt....

prop, winny(tabs!!), var
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The way he came off, I think he'll end up doing Deca.........and then he'll be fucked...... :worried:

NCAA testing.......blah, blah, blah.........





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lefler said:
bro, what makes yo so sure you wont get tested? you do know that the ncaa now tests EVERY football team at least once a year dont you? its a new rule. and if you make it to a bowl game you WILL get tested again. at my school last year they came 3 times. this year just 1 time so far. if you do deca you'll be in trouble for 2 years worth of testing. if you are serious about football you will not do deca, trust me.



check out this link to the ncaa website:http://www1.ncaa.org/membership/ed_outreach/health-safety/drug_testing/d1_yr_faq.html

From that link:
Who will be drug tested beginning 2004-05 academic year?

Every Division I institution will be drug tested at least once each academic year beginning this fall. Please know, however, that your institution may be selected for testing more than once each academic year.
Every Division I sport your institution sponsors is now subject to out-of-competition (year-round) drug testing.
If your institution sponsors football, 18 football student-athletes plus eight student-athletes from one additional sport will be randomly selected for drug testing.
If your institution does not sponsor football, only eight student-athletes from one sport will be randomly selected


so as you can see, your team Will get tested at least 1 time and maybe more.....DECA = STUPID!!
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I gotta agree with the above statement. I would be sure that you know the risks up front and are ready for whatever consequences could befall you. But with that said, if your certain you can't progress further naturally quick enough to meet your goals I'd stick with somemthing simple with a short halflife, prob test prop and something to keep off the water followed by simple PCT. I was in your boat once and would be a huge hypocrite if I told you to lay off . But, in my case I knew from day one I wouldn't be going further than the collegiate level (I was a 6' 220, non starting MLB ) and I also wasn't relying on a check from the school every season.
Whatever you decide, I wish you luck.

Oh, and I gotta say...Go big 10, baby!
 
DIVISION said:
The way he came off, I think he'll end up doing Deca.........and then he'll be fucked...... :worried:

NCAA testing.......blah, blah, blah.........






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yeah, i dont understand.....the only safe time is the summer but the ncaa can come in during camp which starts in august. school gets out in the 1st week of may. that gives you a little over 3 months to do a cycle then get clean. you waste half of this time waiting for the deca to kick in.

http://www1.ncaa.org/membership/ed_outreach/health-safety/drug_testing/0203results.html

here is a link to the ncaa results from 02 - 03. notice the most common bust is deca. eq in a close 2nd.
 
thanks alot guys, about the testing... it is a concern and its not easy to evade, its a coin flip. but up till now it's a full time job and i want some rewards... riding the bench isn't fun. after reading alot of the responses i think i'd be better off staying natural. 15 lb's is definently do-able and i can alays save the juice till my mid-life crisis. thanks again guys.
 
lefler said:
notice the most common bust is deca. eq in a close 2nd.
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Thank god I don't NEED a scholarship, nor do I want to play team sports......

I love Deca too much to give it up for college athletics.



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all you have to do is build a good relationship with someone in the system say a strength coach ask him what you need to do and your down to do anything
theres ways around testing the d1 schools know about you just have to be smart about it before you jump on anything cuz if you get caught your straight fucked
so if i was you talk to a strength coach or even your coach
you wouldnt beleive what these guys will do to win

and read up on what lefler said that shit is very important
 
therockrt72 said:
all you have to do is build a good relationship with someone in the system say a strength coach ask him what you need to do and your down to do anything
theres ways around testing the d1 schools know about you just have to be smart about it before you jump on anything cuz if you get caught your straight fucked
so if i was you talk to a strength coach or even your coach
you wouldnt beleive what these guys will do to win

and read up on what lefler said that shit is very important
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If the strength coach can guaruntee you won't be tested, I'd go for it.....

Providing it's his ass on the line if you get caught.....




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Dude your 20! I would exahust all other sources before hitting the Juice eat and train your ass off but thats my opinion if you do cycle i agree with others stay away from DECA for testing reasons and make sure you know what your doing before getting started.
 
as lefler said if your serious about football you wont do deca....just look here http://www.steroid.com/detect.php you want to keep ur college football career? then you WONT do deca...unlike you im not going to get a chance to play college ball due to the fact im 5'8 167 and im a Gaurd/LBer...theres not a big need for small quick mofos in college ball anymore....its all the big fast tall guys...and im def. not one of them
 
i was in the same boat you were two seasons ago- i was a 6'3" 220 OLB coming out of high school- i am fast as hell (4.4-4.5 range), but i was about 15-20 lbs. lighter than the other scholarship linebackers. the coaches actually wanted me to move to safety, and i did for a while, but i have played linebacker since i was a freshman in high school, and i fuckin' love it. safety is fun b/c you really get to hit people hard, but it is not physical enough for me. i needed 10 extra pounds, and instead of just hitting training table 3-4 times a day and just stuffing myself- i started juicing instead. i gained 20lbs., and two years later, i am starting and i have a pretty decent shot at the nfl (barring injury, in our sport, shit happens quick).
BUT (and this is important so listen), i never felt comfortable playing w/o juice after the first time i used it, and probably never will. i (and some of my teammates) have to go through some uncomfortable and sometimes stressful shit to pass the testing, and the amount that i use (and can get away w/) is just over the amount my body makes naturally anyway. if i get caught, i am FUCKED, but i don't want to quit b/c of the edge psychologically and physically it gives me- i do go off-cycle, of course, but the ups and downs and the stress of possibly getting caught may very well not be worth it to you. this is not a morality speech- i see nothing wrong w/ what i do- the guidelines against steroids are not my rules- i think the use of performance enhancers should be decided by the athletes, not by the shitheads who write/talk about/make money off of them- they are not the ones putting the work in (the blood, sweat, and pain). my advice- eat eat eat- you can put the 15-20lbs. of bulk you need (it may not be muscle, but you will weigh 230), or get a speed/agility coach, work your ass off, and move to safety. good luck to you bro- we are all in this together
 
pop warner or what man??? i need feedback from someone above my level, not my lil bro... but thanks anyway. (Jester.... (not dlr))
 
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MattMcC said:
pop warner or what man??? i need feedback from someone above my level, not my lil bro... but thanks anyway.
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i take that as your referring to me....you should sit down and learn something "BRO"....i've been around this site and a few others like it for over a year now...and i know a shitload more than im assuming you do coming in here with the questions that you have.....so take a seat beacause class is in session....

Ok, so you heard what lefler said and what the link states right? but yet you still say "ok so ignoring the testing" wtf is wrong with you are you stupid?
Deca has a 12-18MONTH detection time.. BESIDES the fact that you wont beable to get your dick up unless you run it with test...which if you didnt you must be stupid...but anyway...a test/deca cycle will give u a good 15-20 lbs...BUT alot of it WILL be water weight.....and it most likely wont do much for your speed/endurance...

On the other hand...if you do something along these lines
weeks 1-8 400mg/week Test Cyp
weeks 1-8 400mg/week EQ
weeks 1-3 50mg/day Dbol
weeks 3-10 50mg EOD or ED of Winstrol
EQ is better off run at 10 weeks but since your in a tight place i'd say 8 wuld be sufficient....you will put on some decent mass...help out with your explosivness and endurance and lose some fat in the process...the DBol will help get you the couple lbs of water weight and then the winstrol will help you get rid of it and keep most of your muscle gains....
The EQ will be your biggest problem of being dectected at 4-5 months...followed by the Cyp at around 3 months...but hey you dont want advice from your "lil bro"

*edit: btw enjoy the red*
 
Thanks for the tips jester, only one thing, you stated previously that you have never experienced college ball, hmmm guess what? i'm the one on the football team. As stated earlier in the thread, a trainer/athelete "freindship" can be very beneficial to the evasion of drug testing. lets just say, i've covered all the bases, but is that info necessary to get the info i'm looking for? no... but you pushed. I'm not about to put my coaches/trainer in the line of fire on some internet post. you must really think i'm in the SEC too huh? well, i didn't get into college by overlooking specific details like covering my tracks. anywho, i'm real proud of your extensive knowledge concerning AS and this site, you must have great... computer skills. however, it seems to me that your stacks are subpar, considering you are about the same size as my lil bro. good luck with the awesome breadth of knowledge... next time just leave the football to the big boys. thanks pal!
 
MattMcC said:
Thanks for the tips jester, only one thing, you stated previously that you have never experienced college ball, hmmm guess what? i'm the one on the football team. As stated earlier in the thread, a trainer/athelete "freindship" can be very beneficial to the evasion of drug testing. lets just say, i've covered all the bases, but is that info necessary to get the info i'm looking for? no... but you pushed. I'm not about to put my coaches/trainer in the line of fire on some internet post. you must really think i'm in the SEC too huh? well, i didn't get into college by overlooking specific details like covering my tracks. anywho, i'm real proud of your extensive knowledge concerning AS and this site, you must have great... computer skills. however, it seems to me that your stacks are subpar, considering you are about the same size as my lil bro. good luck with the awesome breadth of knowledge... next time just leave the football to the big boys. thanks pal!
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yea my stacks are sub par? and im still the same size as ur little bro huh...well then...considering im 18 fucking years old then that MIGHT just play a part in the reason why i DONT FUCKING USE GEAR...lol...my last post to you....cause your not worth the time.....best of luck not getting caught...
 
JeSt3r said:
yea my stacks are sub par? and im still the same size as ur little bro huh...well then...considering im 18 fucking years old then that MIGHT just play a part in the reason why i DONT FUCKING USE GEAR...lol...my last post to you....cause your not worth the time.....best of luck not getting caught...
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Damn JeSt3r, you're starting to really sound like me.

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Hey Bro, im a college player in canada and we only get 5 guys on our team a year test us. They can pretty much show up at our door anytime during the year to ask us for some piss.

Id stay away from deca , but do some dbols and a testosterone with a short ester....

Could you imagine how silly youd look if you did this during HS like most NFL athletes?!
 
i dont see how a relationship with the trainers or streangth coach will help any. the testers come to the school with the names of the guys they want to test already in mind. all they do is get a roster then randomly select 18 guys, come to the school, tell the head trainer who they want to test, then he/she calls the players a day or 2 in advance. the ncaa is serious about testing. serious enough to make you drop your pants to your knees while the look directly at your dick when you piss....
 
MattMcC said:
bump... any other football player opinions?
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olympic lifts..

HUGE diet

ramp up the training not the drugs..

talk to your coaches and let them know what you want and ask for all there help..

dont just jump on drugs.. you risk embarassing yourself and your school

EDIT: losing the attitude would probably help a bit too bro
 
When I was young I did'nt need aas to get strong and grow. I was a competetive aggresive athlete in spite of some physical problems I had. I have work out all my life. Now I'm an old fart (46). using aas for first time because my body needs it to look and feel and workout the way I want. I waited a long time. Let your young body do what it capable of doing before you enhance it. My 0.02
 
It's not too difficult to know when they will come test. It's like clockwork. Theres 3 specific times during the year they come to test, one being a bigtime bowl game if your D1. Use fast acting esters, be clean for the peak testing times. Just for fun, lets assume you're on deca, EQ, etc and the NCAA shows up to test, worst case scenario 15-20 get tested (usually isn't that high) and since theres about 105 guys on the roster.... Theres a 20% chance you'll get tested. The odds are in your favor, and REALLY in your favor if you use the fast acting stuff and stay clean for those 4 weeks of potential testing.
 
I play college football, my opinion: I'm going by what these guys have told me as well - "EAT EAT EAT EAT/ LIFT LIFT LIFT LIFT". I'll try AAS later in life.
 
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It's not too difficult to know when they will come test. It's like clockwork. Theres 3 specific times during the year they come to test, one being a bigtime bowl game if your D1. Use fast acting esters, be clean for the peak testing times. Just for fun, lets assume you're on deca, EQ, etc and the NCAA shows up to test, worst case scenario 15-20 get tested (usually isn't that high) and since theres about 105 guys on the roster.... Theres a 20% chance you'll get tested. The odds are in your favor, and REALLY in your favor if you use the fast acting stuff and stay clean for those 4 weeks of potential testing.
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yeah but if you plan on being 1st string and don’t want to make yourself and your school look bad 20% chance is WAY to high for me.

All these guys get on a cycle and don’t care about the risk of getting caught because they just want to play sooooo bad. So they get on shit like deca, eq, ect. ect. then when they actually start they shit themselves because now they realize that if they get tested their ass is done and all the dreams they had are gone.

I cant imagine any player would want to bust his ass through winter conditioning, spring ball, summer training and the regular season sweatin' bullets worrying about testing +. just get the gear that will clear your system. what the hell is big difference between deca or test anyway??? (For football I mean) test will just keep you in the clear.
 
Judo Tom said:
olympic lifts..

HUGE diet

ramp up the training not the drugs..

talk to your coaches and let them know what you want and ask for all there help..

dont just jump on drugs.. you risk embarassing yourself and your school

EDIT: losing the attitude would probably help a bit too bro
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"Losing the attitude" never helped anybody succeed in football. :evil:
 
lefler said:
i dont see how a relationship with the trainers or streangth coach will help any. the testers come to the school with the names of the guys they want to test already in mind. all they do is get a roster then randomly select 18 guys, come to the school, tell the head trainer who they want to test, then he/she calls the players a day or 2 in advance. the ncaa is serious about testing. serious enough to make you drop your pants to your knees while the look directly at your dick when you piss....
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ya i can see what you mean about testers already coming with the list but it still a thing to know someone that knows someone in a higher place

and dont rule the fact that just because its ncaa and they test players, players do steroids all the time a never get caught

this is sports and thats just how it works
 
Lefler, look at the ncaa website and look up the positive steroid results for football. Take that number and compare it to the number of guys that are juicing. Its so disproportional I can't find a word for it. Your odds are virtually zero IF you are smart, even if your a fuckin deca shotting dumbass, the odds are still way in your favor. Trust me, I know a thing or two about ncaa testing.
 
MattMcC said:
"Losing the attitude" never helped anybody succeed in football. :evil:
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Then maybe learn to seperate the football field and the internet.
 
You know what?? I play high schoool and semi pro football and soon trying out for a D1 school as a walk on(not schoolarship) and I made a big mistake of starting a Test Ena cycle(3 months to leave your system) and EQ(5 months) so I dont know if they are going to test during spring Practice but if I find out they are I would just quit it would hurt because been wanting to play football soooo bad on the college level. But I would not make my self an asshole or the school for testing positive. Listen to some of this guys, even if they dont know about football but they do know about AAS. Stick to Test sus or Test prop, Winny and Var you cant go wrong with that!!!. I know a lot of guys who are in the pros and play D1 ball fuck I say the name UM they hit cycles all the time!!!. I would even name one dude because I cant stand that kid, Winslow!! that guy even hit fina, Test prop all kinds of gear and never tested positive that kid was a scrub he gained 30lbs in one year and then another 15 his junior season!!. Anyways just be smart and good luck to you and I. But if yout a schoolarship dont risk it!!
 
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Then maybe learn to seperate the football field and the internet.
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You kids are still hung up on that guy's bad attitude.......:lmao:

Let it go......he's gonna be a dick if he wants to be a dick.......



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DIVISION said:
You kids are still hung up on that guy's bad attitude.......:lmao:

Let it go......he's gonna be a dick if he wants to be a dick.......



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True story.
 
this guys a bitch you come on here asking for advice
d1 athlete need help getting bigger...
and you talk shit to people that respond to you wtf?
obviously your not cuttin up to the competition so shut the fuck up theres plenty of d1 school with shit programs im sure you wont tell what program your on unless your as big a dumbass as you seem
6'1' 215 you skinny bro matter a fact do juice at that weigt and size i hope your a tall running back
you act as if your the only athlete on this forum
so learn something from what people with experience tell you or continue to "look for that extra edge...."
 
listen to people with experience? that kid admitted he had never touched AS. and if you read much earlier in the thread, i'm stayin natural too. you think someone should post with absolute respect on this site when the only other atheletes are self-proclaimed cheaters? well i still got my self respect. ill respect those who go about business with integrity, not a bunch of computer nerds on juice... i came here on a mere whim to gather an elementary education on AS, perhaps to keep up a conversation in the weightroom, perhaps to realize the risks fellow teammates put themselves up against. i got the only education i'll ever need. AS ain't for me.

- NATURAL football player.


- by the way- i hope when all the athletes on this site finish up their four years (nothing after that if you gotta rely on juice ths early) they will be able to sleep peacefully looking forward to a lifetime full of health-related issues stemming from the decisions they made way back when... IT LOOKS LIKE I'M THE ONLY ONE ON THIS POST THAT ACTUALLY DOES KNOW A THING OR TWO ABOUT AS, THATS WHY IM NATURAL.
 
have fun on the bench :)

just kidding.. you made the right decision..

good luck
 
MattMcC said:
listen to people with experience? that kid admitted he had never touched AS. and if you read much earlier in the thread, i'm stayin natural too. you think someone should post with absolute respect on this site when the only other atheletes are self-proclaimed cheaters? well i still got my self respect. ill respect those who go about business with integrity, not a bunch of computer nerds on juice... i came here on a mere whim to gather an elementary education on AS, perhaps to keep up a conversation in the weightroom, perhaps to realize the risks fellow teammates put themselves up against. i got the only education i'll ever need. AS ain't for me.

- NATURAL football player.


- by the way- i hope when all the athletes on this site finish up their four years (nothing after that if you gotta rely on juice ths early) they will be able to sleep peacefully looking forward to a lifetime full of health-related issues stemming from the decisions they made way back when... IT LOOKS LIKE I'M THE ONLY ONE ON THIS POST THAT ACTUALLY DOES KNOW A THING OR TWO ABOUT AS, THATS WHY IM NATURAL.
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Dude, that is the dumbest thing I think I have ever heard of. Inferring that no NFL player ever did juice in college... I can't even argue this with you because you dont have the required IQ to carry on an intelligent conversation. Why in the hell are you on a steroid discusiion board when you are so anti-steroid? Thats like handing out Satan pamphlets at a Southern Baptist Convention.
 
One 'D 1' athlete to another: what will help more than gear is something many athletes neglect but some successes, like Dorian Yates, harp on consistently: time organization and routine. I'm not saying don't use gear, I'm saying organizing your time so you're getting 9 hours of sleep seven days a week, keeping a journal and keeping track of your eating, partying, etc. is probably more valuable if your goal is increased athletic performance. M'kay...
 
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