Discharge from the Marine Corps?

[liftinganimal]

Ok, here is the story. On December 3'rd we had a company wide health and comfort (extreme room search) for illegal items and we were given an amnesty period (not quite) to turn over anything illegal. Me, believing that my gear would be found anyways (96 needles and syringes, nolvedex, clomid, liquid letrozl, and 3 vials of test e), believed that honesty would be the best policy in this situation, turned over my gear to my command. Originally I heard since I turned the items over willingly, all that would happen is that I would have to go to substance abuse classes. Now I am hearing from my captain is that now there is a possibility of separation!? My command had put a good word in for me due to the fact that up and to that point I had been a very good Marine but it looks like my regiment might not take that into consideration. I am afraid the Marine Corps will not be so forgiving in this situation due to the now current downsizing. Plz, can anyone give me any info on what will happen to me?

 

[cboogsrun]

i would talk to jag my friend

 

[rudedoug]

AMNESTY?? where is that in the UCMJ, talk tp legal counsel quick

 

[hurricane]

are u asking if your going to get arrested? or jailtime?

 

[liftinganimal]

My captain told me they have not heard back from Regiment yet but I was just wondering if anyone's had or known of a similar experience?

 

[bigbox]

They're downsizing the marines??? Talk to jag, they really shouldn't have brought it up through the chain of command.

 

[needtogetaas]

They're downsizing the marines??? Talk to jag, they really shouldn't have brought it up through the chain of command.

I was thinking the same.

 

[pdaddyII]

Why didn't you just bury the shit?

 

[housemusik83]

bro the same shit happened to me... mps came with dogs and searched every baracks in the battalion... It all boils down to your command and if they will look out for you or not.. how is your co? if he is a dick, chances are he will not stand for any of his Marines, my co went out on a limb for any good Marines of course our Marines went to battle with their CO... No one here will give you an answear you are looking for... just do what you are told and do the right thing from now on... downsizing the Marine Corps will not effect their decisions on your case... If they wanted to give you brig time you would of been in there already... You did the right thing by turning in your gear rather them finding it... good luck to you, keep us updated

 

[gjohnson5]

Ok, here is the story. On December 3'rd we had a company wide health and comfort (extreme room search) for illegal items and we were given an amnesty period (not quite) to turn over anything illegal. Me, believing that my gear would be found anyways (96 needles and syringes, nolvedex, clomid, liquid letrozl, and 3 vials of test e), believed that honesty would be the best policy in this situation, turned over my gear to my command. Originally I heard since I turned the items over willingly, all that would happen is that I would have to go to substance abuse classes. Now I am hearing from my captain is that now there is a possibility of separation!? My command had put a good word in for me due to the fact that up and to that point I had been a very good Marine but it looks like my regiment might not take that into consideration. I am afraid the Marine Corps will not be so forgiving in this situation due to the now current downsizing. Plz, can anyone give me any info on what will happen to me?

Wow , never heard the military court Martial-ing people for steroid possession.

 

[gjohnson5]

They're downsizing the marines??? Talk to jag, they really shouldn't have brought it up through the chain of command.

No sh1t

 

[BNG]

If it goes ANY further request JAG representation. It will help it not to be worse than it has to, and because of the way it's been handled so far you'll likely get out of most punishment. Amnesty? Sounds like an internal sweep.

 

[Jagermuscle]

As an MP myself, I can tell you GO TALK TO LEGAL THE OFFICE if you haven't already. Its their job to look out for you, regardless of what youve done.

Its all going to be dependent on what youve said so far. The USMC has a zero tolerance policy on drugs, yes that includes AAS. However, you havent tested positive for anything have you? Until you do they have zero proof you have done any of the gear, you were just holding it for someone

 

[SpyWizard]

As an MP myself, I can tell you GO TALK TO LEGAL THE OFFICE if you haven't already. Its their job to look out for you, regardless of what youve done.

Its all going to be dependent on what youve said so far. The USMC has a zero tolerance policy on drugs, yes that includes AAS. However, you havent tested positive for anything have you? Until you do they have zero proof you have done any of the gear, you were just holding it for someone

agree..

with downsizing... you might get out with a general instead of a dishonorable discharge..

good luck..

 

[rllesueur]

Go see counsel

 

[HOLYSHITLOOK@ME]

The worst you should get is a "general discharge, under unhonorable conditions". Shouldn't see any brig time. After that, you could face criminal charges outside of the corps.

I know 2 guys that were popped and this is what happened to both.

I know nothing about the law so take this with a grain of salt (sodium free)

Goodluck seeking legal counsil. They're supposed to be on your side, but.....most are jabrones

 

[gjohnson5]

The worst you should get is a "general discharge, under unhonorable conditions". Shouldn't see any brig time. After that, you could face criminal charges outside of the corps.

Yep , as a brigade commander one said , you'll get a gift that keeps on giving...

 

[HOLYSHITLOOK@ME]

Troops get fucked 2x while politicians do 100 times the damage to our country while doing 100 times worse of a crime and get a slap on the hand AND STILL GET TO KEEP THEIR PENSION!

I HATE POLITICIANS!!!

 

[Dominator Human]

My captain told me they have not heard back from Regiment yet but I was just wondering if anyone's had or known of a similar experience?

Bro, I was in the Marines on ship and someone snitched me out and my command did a health and comfort and they found 4 bottles of test and 500 dianabol.

A Marine on ship can't refuse NJP and my FS sent me to Battalion NJP quick and I got busted down and lost a lot of my money.

Good news though when we got back to Lejeune I went to see the Regimental commander and he asked if I wanted to stay in and I told him that i did and he moved me to another unit.

What I have learned is to never trust your fellow Marines with that info cause they will snitch you out quick.

In your case i would have not trusted any amnesty period just cause I know the Marine Corps can never be trusted when you hear that as I have see too many Marines get NJP for that.

In your case I would quickly go to LSSS and speak to a lawyer.

The Marines are not downsizing and to be honest with you you have a chance of staying in.

Semper Fi

 

[kings27]

exactly. you would already be in there. you may not think so but there not gonna frown near as hard on you for this as they would if u got caught with some other illicit drugs. its exactly what he said its up to your command. just do what your told and everything should work out fine

 

[wesdo2gg]

Yup, as a former Marine MP, I would not talk to anyone or say anything. If they put you on restriction, make sure you get paperwork for that because that is all pre-trial stuff that counts towards your punishment. i've seen them try to not do paperwork and do a "Command authorized restriction" and it turned out to be a pretty messy situation. One thing I learned quick in the Marine Corps is not to trust anyone above my own rank. I learned that shit the hard way too. Anyways, keep your mouth shut and talk to JAG. Depending on your command, you also might be able to negotiate a better discharge too. General under Honorable is what you want with this type of shit. I hope you get it bro. Best of luck to you. You might also try to see if you can get PCA orders to another unit and volunteer for a deployment to Iraq of Afghan. It's not necessarily a good option especially if you've already done your time over there, however, a couple of guys that I know got in some serious trouble and they negotiated a General under Honorable conditions after they got back from a deployment to Iraq. Most units, when stuff like this happens, just wants to get rid of the personel one way or another, and if that means going to a different unit and overseas, then some commands will allow it...especially if another unit is hurting for bodies for deployment. If you're section or yourself are in good with your CO, you might have a better chance of getting this stuff. Best of luck bro.

 

[Dominator Human]

liftinganimal

What's the status?

 

[beforeiwassam]

Sucks. I have seen people kicked out for popping a piss test in one command. Then have seen test swept under the rug by another. It really depends all on the C.O. let us know when you get back to the boards.

 

[Myfortress]

are u asking if your going to get arrested? or jailtime?

? bro

 

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[johnclave111]

I dont know the answers to this questions because I would have to read his terms of discharge..

 

[Ranger11B]

Doubt it will make it to a discharge unless they can prove he was selling to other marines. No matter what you should always hide your gear!!!!!! Even in my unit before the crackdown when the coc was turning a blind eye to it, everyone was still keeping it well hidden incase it did ever go down. Whats done is done I agree it really depends on your your leader, team leader, platoon leader all the way up to your co. commander or bco depending on how far up its going. I would say you ll end up with an article, loss in pay, maybe grade, and extra duty. based on the fact you turned it in and though its a "drug" its use was performance driven. Talk to your squad leader and team leader see what their thoughts are before you go talk to jag just bc alot of the time things work out best if they feel the respect and it was in house. if its going above the 1st sgt or co. commander i would most def talk to JAG. Dont talk about the situation out side of your direct coc, the more you talk the worse it is. When your explaining it make sure you load them with the why behind your use and dont make it skin deep, basicly you felt it would help your deployments and keep you and your buddies alive. Being able to performe at your peak keeps you alive kinda thing.