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Did you guys hear about Junior Seau?
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EarthRider
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wtf, are you kidding
nothing is on epsn
nothing is on epsn
WoodyO
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Yeah they are investigation a shooting
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mistaballoonhands
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He's been a mess for a while right? Didn't he drive a car off a cliff or something a while back?
mistaballoonhands
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Do you think he said ow?
WoodyO
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Yeah, here in Carlsbad after a night of fighting with his chick.
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EarthRider
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or maybe, hey i should just shoot myself instead of driving off a bridge
mistaballoonhands
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This sucks. He always seemed like a pretty nice guy.
mistaballoonhands
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As long as you weren't a qb
fucked up and sad...especially given the suicide note
sounds like the guy thought he was broken and couldnt cope
sounds like the guy thought he was broken and couldnt cope
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lartinos
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That is terrible.
I was strangely wondering about how he was doing a few days ago.
People were talking about how Ray Lewis is ageless during the draft and it made me remember how long Junior played for.
(even longer than Ray has do far)
I was strangely wondering about how he was doing a few days ago.
People were talking about how Ray Lewis is ageless during the draft and it made me remember how long Junior played for.
(even longer than Ray has do far)
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EarthRider
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ESPN isn't saying shit about this other than it happen, where did you find info about a note?
on the tmz link
he left a note asking that his brain be donated because he thought that blows to his head left him cognitively impaired
hence why he shot himself in the chest
he left a note asking that his brain be donated because he thought that blows to his head left him cognitively impaired
hence why he shot himself in the chest
WoodyO
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Junior didn't leave that note. It was referencing a story from last year:
Back in 2011, former NFL star Dave Duerson shot himself in the chest ... and explained in his suicide note that he wanted his brain donated to a research center because he believed the blows he took to the head during his football career caused him to become mentally impaired.
WoodyO
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But they did confirm Junior died from a gunshot wound to the chest.
PICK3
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i ran into a pole
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lartinos
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When someone retires at an older football age after going to the super bowl and then coming right back in the league at 40 or whatever it may show their inability to get adjusted to regular life.
That was what I was thinking about specifically the other day,
I am guessing brain injuries would only make things worse.
To play Linebacker for the number of years he did is pretty insane.
The drive and natural talent to play LB at 40
Is pretty impressive.
That was what I was thinking about specifically the other day,
I am guessing brain injuries would only make things worse.
To play Linebacker for the number of years he did is pretty insane.
The drive and natural talent to play LB at 40
Is pretty impressive.
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EarthRider
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i hope so, or that gun shot would hurt
PICK3
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i don't condone suicide, butt I can think of other ways to check out
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EarthRider
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i am really scared to die, so I don't think I could ever do it. Like I don't know why, but I guess I am afraid it's going to hurt, lol
PICK3
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Junior Seau’s death another sad ending for the 1994 Chargers | ProFootballTalk
Eight ex-Chargers have died from '94 Super Bowl team
Eight ex-Chargers have died from '94 Super Bowl team
- Linebacker Junior Seau died from self-inflicted gun-shot at 43
- Linebacker Lew Bush had died of an apparent heart attack at 42
- Defensive lineman Shawn Lee died last year of a heart attack at 44
- Defensive lineman Chris Mims died in 2008 of complications from having an enlarged heart at age 38
- Offensive lineman Curtis Whitley died in 2008 of a drug overdose at age 39
- Linebacker Doug Miller died in 1998 after he was struck by lightning, at age 28
- Running back Rodney Culver died in 1996 in the crash of ValuJet Flight 592, at age 26
- Linebacker David Griggs died in 1995 in a car accident at age 28
quit being such a fucking pussy
cgphilly49
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He was never good against the shotgun formation....
me too.
jesus christ....
cgphilly49
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Eh probably
but for totally different reasons than this one
PICK3
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PICK3
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that's knot right
bigmann245
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Thats sad to have such an amazing career and to end your life before you get to enjoy it. Very sad.
PICK3
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uamaverick
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Well, that was one heck of a Seauicide. trolololo
Was there any drugs in that house?
Lambruh
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omg lololol
Lambruh
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was there any chris benoit highlights on his dvr
omg!!!! hahahaha
why would it be rules as suicide? who kills themselves by shooting themselves in the chest? what happened to good old fashioned gun in mouth?
you got pretty upset about someone with a complete lack of empathy to drug addicts though, didn't you? I mean you destroyed yourself with all those drugs, right? You could have died just as easily as if you'd put a gun to your chest. Foolish comment bro. I'd have expected more from you.
mrplunkey
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At least one other NFL player has shot themselves in the chest so their brains can be studied for trauma.
Lambruh
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getting high or putting anything toxic "trans fats, ciggarettes" is comparable to a 12 gauge slug through your ribcage?
bad comparison, seriously.
No bro I didn't use drugs to exit from life. The expectations were far different from someone at a bar having drinks then someone with a noosed up rope
exit, no? How about escape? You're still a hypocrite. You see it as two different things and I see them pretty similarly.
It was just a matter of time before you killed yourself with drugs. Honestly, you're still just one little slip away from it too.
I like your quote here how telling you to off yourself was "the most desperate act of self embarrassing chibber chabber..." Oh, and, "Can you imagine if you said that to someone in real life, it just makes you look sad."
You're in Anaheim, right? Why don't you roll on down to Oceanside (only about an hour bro) and knock on Junior's mama's door and tell her how you never feel bad for suicide victims. That would be "lols" because really, she's a victim of his suicide too.
Oh, and I guarantee you, Junior's life was more fun, exciting and interesting when he was plying LB in the NFL, going to 2 super bowls and 12 pro bowls, than your life ever was or will be.
I do, because anger turned in towards yourself can happen to anyone.
How is someone destroying themselves slowly any different? It call comes from the same place. Addiction has no other payoff besides death. You'd think someone that had experienced their own slide into self-destruction, even if for a short while would empathize a little more with those where it was so built up it became a reality.
bigpokey
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if he wanted to donate his brain to science cause he felt he was all fuct up from football and his health was declining rapidly, i dont feel bad for him i think that shit is g as fuck.. like when old sick ngrs off themselves cause they dont want to blow their whole estate cause they're not getting better and require 24/7 care.. id rather go out like on my own terms than turn into a rotting old ass bag of bones shittin on my fukn self everyday fuk it
Lambruh
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nowhere in my post reaponding to java shows me spilling need for empathy for drug addicts. Everyone has a friend who's died or ODd from addictions, there's not much sorrow u get from me in thay aspect either. They hit a spiritual bottom and never recovered, tough.
u take your own life willingly and leave your children fatherless, sorry I'm not sorry for the man who offes himself. Boo fuckin hoo charger fans
the whole "oh but you can die from drugs hypocrit", the intentions of ppl who like to get high arent to die. Ppl who eat macdonalds everyday are to die? sex addicts who fuck are trying to die? Because i dont wear a seatbelt, wear my headphones on during airflighy takeoff etc. intentions are to die? Risks in life are everywhere. Suicide is a 100% gauranteed intention of death.
Like he deserves sorrow fos taking himself away from his kids over a fight with his wife. lmao
u take your own life willingly and leave your children fatherless, sorry I'm not sorry for the man who offes himself. Boo fuckin hoo charger fans
the whole "oh but you can die from drugs hypocrit", the intentions of ppl who like to get high arent to die. Ppl who eat macdonalds everyday are to die? sex addicts who fuck are trying to die? Because i dont wear a seatbelt, wear my headphones on during airflighy takeoff etc. intentions are to die? Risks in life are everywhere. Suicide is a 100% gauranteed intention of death.
Like he deserves sorrow fos taking himself away from his kids over a fight with his wife. lmao
You're about as dense as a brick wall dude. The intentions of those who get high are never to die? So drug abusers never become suicidal? Great to know. Thanks Dr. Phil. I'll file that one right over here under "idiocy" for future reference.
You lashed out at java, calling him, mad, desperate and sad. I'd say he struck a nerve with you for his lack of empathy for "someone with 7 months sobriety".
The more you try to argue your point the worse you look. The fact you can't see it being remotely similar to your situation should cause you concern. That could have easily been you. Either OD-ing or so strung out and fucked up and alone, alienated from everyone and everything, absolute rock bottom, that you put a gun to your own chest or head. Oh wait...right, I forgot, no addict has ever done anything like that. My bad bro. You keep on with your self-righteousness. It looks good on you.
Lambruh
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ceo I don't give a shit bout ur man crush on Seau, homie... yah I'm self riteous cus I think suicide is dumb, damn right bro, go whine to someone else about it.
the only nerve struck here is ur vagina bleeding over my opinion on this, clearly
"sooo drug users never become suicidal" yah as well as everyone else with mental issues. Can u read my post... either way I. don't. give. a. fuck. about. them. In your words your suicidal for taking steroids. Oh that doesn't count, right...
the only nerve struck here is ur vagina bleeding over my opinion on this, clearly
"sooo drug users never become suicidal" yah as well as everyone else with mental issues. Can u read my post... either way I. don't. give. a. fuck. about. them. In your words your suicidal for taking steroids. Oh that doesn't count, right...
bigpokey
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fyp
my only crush here is pointing out how hypocritical you are. I love that shit, man!
You are the one who got your vagina bleeding over java's post a couple months ago crying about how could he say such a thing to someone with 7 months sobriety. Now here you are standing in his shoes. Did I mention you are a hypocrite?
now here you are all pissy again. Can't take it huh? Talk all the shit you want about someone who commits suicide, but not about a junkie. It's a good thing junkies don't ever kill themselves (according to you). That would cause a real dilemma for you.
FTR, I have never wanted to commit suicide either. I think it's a selfish act as well. But I wouldn't put myself so high as to judge someone who did it, not knowing what they were going through.
Java didn't give a fuck about addicts either. Yeah, you cried. pussy.
javaguru
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From what I've seen/read he did a lot for the community and had branched out from being "just a football player" to an entrepreneur who did more than simply dispersing his NFL money to charities but created jobs for people as well. It's unfortunate for his children and extended family, as well as the community that he decided to take his life... He had a lot of good to give.
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EarthRider
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hi java
javaguru
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Hi sunshine...
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EarthRider
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Agreed.
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EarthRider
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i'm sticking with "i'm too scared to kill myself"
just sayin
just sayin
I agree actually. I don't care at all what he thinks or does. It wasn't about me caring what he thought. It was about pointing out the irony and hypocrisy of the situation.
He thinks he trolled me, I say I trolled him.
WoodyO
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Facts about Suicide
• Worldwide there are more deaths due to suicide than to accidents, homicides
and war combined.
• Over 34,000 people in the U.S. die by suicide every year.
• Currently, suicide is the 11th leading cause of death in the U.S.
• Every day, approximately 95 Americans take their own life, and 2,370 more
attempt to do so.
• A person dies by suicide about every 15 minutes in the U.S. An attempt is
estimated to be made once every 40 seconds.
• In the U.S. in 2007 (the latest year for which rates are available), the suicide rate
among women was 4.8 per 100,000, while for men it was 18.3 per 100,000.
• There are four male suicides for every female suicide, but three female attempts
for each male attempt.
• Firearms are the most frequent method of suicide among adults in the U.S.
• Over 90 percent of people who die by suicide had at least one psychiatric illness
at the time of death. The most common diagnoses are depression and drug
and/or alcohol abuse.
• Alcoholism is a factor in about 30 percent of all suicide deaths.
• Early recognition and treatment of depression and other psychiatric illnesses
appears to be the best way to prevent suicide.
• Certain personality disorders, such as borderline and antisocial personality
disorders, appear to carry high risk for suicide. Impulsivity also appears to be a
risk factor for suicide.
• Between 20 and 50 percent of people who kill themselves had previously
attempted suicide. Although the majority of people who die by suicide have not
made a previous attempt, a serious suicide attempt is a clear risk factor for
suicide death.
• Suicidal individuals often talk about suicide directly or indirectly using statements
like, “My family would be better off with out me.” Sometimes they talk as if they
are saying goodbye or going away, and may arrange to put their affairs in order.
Other signs of contemplating suicide include giving away articles they value,
paying off debts or changing a will.
• Worldwide there are more deaths due to suicide than to accidents, homicides
and war combined.
• Over 34,000 people in the U.S. die by suicide every year.
• Currently, suicide is the 11th leading cause of death in the U.S.
• Every day, approximately 95 Americans take their own life, and 2,370 more
attempt to do so.
• A person dies by suicide about every 15 minutes in the U.S. An attempt is
estimated to be made once every 40 seconds.
• In the U.S. in 2007 (the latest year for which rates are available), the suicide rate
among women was 4.8 per 100,000, while for men it was 18.3 per 100,000.
• There are four male suicides for every female suicide, but three female attempts
for each male attempt.
• Firearms are the most frequent method of suicide among adults in the U.S.
• Over 90 percent of people who die by suicide had at least one psychiatric illness
at the time of death. The most common diagnoses are depression and drug
and/or alcohol abuse.
• Alcoholism is a factor in about 30 percent of all suicide deaths.
• Early recognition and treatment of depression and other psychiatric illnesses
appears to be the best way to prevent suicide.
• Certain personality disorders, such as borderline and antisocial personality
disorders, appear to carry high risk for suicide. Impulsivity also appears to be a
risk factor for suicide.
• Between 20 and 50 percent of people who kill themselves had previously
attempted suicide. Although the majority of people who die by suicide have not
made a previous attempt, a serious suicide attempt is a clear risk factor for
suicide death.
• Suicidal individuals often talk about suicide directly or indirectly using statements
like, “My family would be better off with out me.” Sometimes they talk as if they
are saying goodbye or going away, and may arrange to put their affairs in order.
Other signs of contemplating suicide include giving away articles they value,
paying off debts or changing a will.
some crazy statistics in there
WoodyO
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• Between 20 and 50 percent of people who kill themselves had previously
attempted suicide. Although the majority of people who die by suicide have not
made a previous attempt, a serious suicide attempt is a clear risk factor for
suicide death.
On October 18th, 2010, Junior Seau, was arrested for Felony spousal abuse against his 25 year old live-in girlfriend.
He was booked about 2 a.m., then posted bail and was released roughly 90 minutes later
About five hours after he was released from custody, Seau drove his 2005 Cadillac Escalade SUV off a cliff in Carlsbad
Carlsbad police estimated Seau was going about 60 mph once he went airborne. The Escalade sailed through the air, landing 100 feet down on the beach.
attempted suicide. Although the majority of people who die by suicide have not
made a previous attempt, a serious suicide attempt is a clear risk factor for
suicide death.
On October 18th, 2010, Junior Seau, was arrested for Felony spousal abuse against his 25 year old live-in girlfriend.
He was booked about 2 a.m., then posted bail and was released roughly 90 minutes later
About five hours after he was released from custody, Seau drove his 2005 Cadillac Escalade SUV off a cliff in Carlsbad
Carlsbad police estimated Seau was going about 60 mph once he went airborne. The Escalade sailed through the air, landing 100 feet down on the beach.
WoodyO
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In countries like the USA and the UK there has been a steady increase in the numbers of men who elect to end their own lives prematurely. On average in the USA one person (male and female) takes their own life every 18 minutes. Of those who attempt suicide the completion rate for men is four times higher than for women. Suicide is the eighth leading cause of death for all U.S. men according to National Center for Injury Prevention and Control.
Young men and older men are particularly vulnerable groups. The suicide rate peaks in men between the ages of 20-24, which if isolated from the general statistics on suicide, places suicide as the 3rd ranking cause of death. Older people suffer from the loss of loved one's and friends and can feel isolated, ignored, valueless, or overly dependent on others. In the USA, the leading method of suicide is by firearms whereas in the UK where guns are illegal, exhaust fumes, hanging and overdoses are most commonly employed.
Why Men Choose Suicide
Not every attempt at suicide results in completion, although unsuccessful first attempts are often followed by successful second attempts. We know that young men report various pressures, that they feel unable to adapt to or cope with
Risk Factors for Suicide
The most common risk factors are:
Using drugs and/or alcohol to help cope with emotions, relationships, pressure of work etc.
Social isolation, living alone.
Not being able to form or sustain meaningful relationships.
Divorce or relationship breakdowns.
A history of physical and sexual abuse.
Imprisonment.
Being bullied at school/college/work.
unemployment.
loss of a loved one through trauma or disease.
mental illness, particularly where this is related to depression. painful and/or debilitating illnesses or conditions.
Young men and older men are particularly vulnerable groups. The suicide rate peaks in men between the ages of 20-24, which if isolated from the general statistics on suicide, places suicide as the 3rd ranking cause of death. Older people suffer from the loss of loved one's and friends and can feel isolated, ignored, valueless, or overly dependent on others. In the USA, the leading method of suicide is by firearms whereas in the UK where guns are illegal, exhaust fumes, hanging and overdoses are most commonly employed.
Why Men Choose Suicide
Not every attempt at suicide results in completion, although unsuccessful first attempts are often followed by successful second attempts. We know that young men report various pressures, that they feel unable to adapt to or cope with
Risk Factors for Suicide
The most common risk factors are:
Using drugs and/or alcohol to help cope with emotions, relationships, pressure of work etc.
Social isolation, living alone.
Not being able to form or sustain meaningful relationships.
Divorce or relationship breakdowns.
A history of physical and sexual abuse.
Imprisonment.
Being bullied at school/college/work.
unemployment.
loss of a loved one through trauma or disease.
mental illness, particularly where this is related to depression. painful and/or debilitating illnesses or conditions.
two of my husbands cousins have killed themselves...both men, both gunshots to the head
I can pick off about 6 factors in that last list for both of them
probably more impulsive...and brooding
yeah...cuz the guy's kids need to hear it
people can be so distasteful
people can be so distasteful
On 5/5, at 5:55pm, please observe 55 seconds of silence for number 55.
Moment of Silence for Junior Seau: May 5th, 5:55 p.m. - Bolt Beat - A San Diego Chargers Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.
heard this on the radio today.
Moment of Silence for Junior Seau: May 5th, 5:55 p.m. - Bolt Beat - A San Diego Chargers Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.
heard this on the radio today.
What time?
you gonna roll out rob?
LOL, depends on the time. Surfers get up crazy early
And I'm gonna finally go to Seau's restaurant too
And I'm gonna finally go to Seau's restaurant too
SoCal 
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