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Did Barry Bonds juice for this MLB season?

ItalianMuscle27 said:
Im serious about the stats, just kidding about the juice. Im just trying to make a point to everyone to realize what nonsense all this juice talk is with barry bonds.
Ok, though those #s could have been 1 second less and twenty more reps if he juiced. :p
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
Im serious about the stats, just kidding about the juice. Im just trying to make a point to everyone to realize what nonsense all this juice talk is with barry bonds.
No one ever questioned Bonds' talent. He was an allstar ever since he was with the Pirates years ago. But people arent stupid. Anyone with half a brain could tell Bonds was on something. Now if it makes you feel better to believe that Bonds has always been a "natural" athlete, and all these acusations are just negative "media hype"... then go right ahead. You're only lying to yourself. The rest of us know the reality.
 
Outtlaw said:
No one ever questioned Bonds' talent. He was an allstar ever since he was with the Pirates years ago. But people arent stupid. Anyone with half a brain could tell Bonds was on something. Now if it makes you feel better to believe that Bonds has always been a "natural" athlete, and all these acusations are just negative "media hype"... then go right ahead. You're only lying to yourself. The rest of us know the reality.

If bonds wasnt chasing the homerun record, or put up 73 homeruns in a season, you and everyone else wouldnt even give it a second thought if he was using steroids, it wouldnt be an issue. Could bonds have used? Sure anything is possible, but until there is proof, why assume or accuse the man of anything.

Now Canseco looks like he is on something. Looking at R. Palimero, did he look like he was on them too? Not to my eyes, but he tested positive for stanozolol. In all reality, you cant just look at someone and say he is using. I got accused of using steroids for years, but wasnt on anything.. Just eating and supplements, thats it.. All the stuff I am on now, I still couldnt hit a ball or homerun..
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
If bonds wasnt chasing the homerun record, or put up 73 homeruns in a season, you and everyone else wouldnt even give it a second thought if he was using steroids, it wouldnt be an issue. Could bonds have used? Sure anything is possible, but until there is proof, why assume or accuse the man of anything.

Now Canseco looks like he is on something. Looking at R. Palimero, did he look like he was on them too? Not to my eyes, but he tested positive for stanozolol. In all reality, you cant just look at someone and say he is using. I got accused of using steroids for years, but wasnt on anything.. Just eating and supplements, thats it.. All the stuff I am on now, I still couldnt hit a ball or homerun..


To Outlaws defense, are you kidding? Do you know how the Barry Bonds Scandal came about? No one was investigating him because of the homerun record. It all started with a track coach who gave the feds a sample to be able to identify the substances that Balco Labs was producing. The government then went to Balco and got the names of the athletes that were using. Low and behold, Barry Bonds was on that list. No one checked MarkMcGwire or Sammy Sosa for steroids when they were going for the homerun record, and they didn't check Barry.

So to say that no one would be investigating Barry if he wasn't chasing the homerun record is false. If Balco Labs didn't go down, no one would even consider him using steroids.

And how could you sit there and say that Bonds didn't use steroids? The guy admitted to a grand jury that he applied the cream and took the liquid unknowingly. Right there it tells you that he is taking steroids, whether intentional or not. Plus, tell me why he isn't suing those two guys that published the books about him using steroids for slander if it wasn't true? The proof is there, open your eyes.

Of course you can't hit a homerun. You never had the natural talent that these professional athletes had. Now give a professional athlete steroids, and he becomes an all star.
 
i am what i am said:
To Outlaws defense, are you kidding? Do you know how the Barry Bonds Scandal came about? No one was investigating him because of the homerun record. It all started with a track coach who gave the feds a sample to be able to identify the substances that Balco Labs was producing. The government then went to Balco and got the names of the athletes that were using. Low and behold, Barry Bonds was on that list. No one checked MarkMcGwire or Sammy Sosa for steroids when they were going for the homerun record, and they didn't check Barry.

So to say that no one would be investigating Barry if he wasn't chasing the homerun record is false. If Balco Labs didn't go down, no one would even consider him using steroids.

And how could you sit there and say that Bonds didn't use steroids? The guy admitted to a grand jury that he applied the cream and took the liquid unknowingly. Right there it tells you that he is taking steroids, whether intentional or not. Plus, tell me why he isn't suing those two guys that published the books about him using steroids for slander if it wasn't true? The proof is there, open your eyes.

Of course you can't hit a homerun. You never had the natural talent that these professional athletes had. Now give a professional athlete steroids, and he becomes an all star.

And the owner of balco who just got released from prison, already said, he did not give bonds any steroids, and we will testify to that..

Give an pro athlete steroids and he becomes an all star? lmao.. Bonds was an all star before all these allegations. I think there are 12 current players who tested postive for steroids, and they were not all stars. So to say steroids makes an athlete an all star is far fetched. They havent made me an all star, and not you either..
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
And the owner of balco who just got released from prison, already said, he did not give bonds any steroids, and we will testify to that..

Give an pro athlete steroids and he becomes an all star? lmao.. Bonds was an all star before all these allegations. I think there are 12 current players who tested postive for steroids, and they were not all stars. So to say steroids makes an athlete an all star is far fetched. They havent made me an all star, and not you either..


Right. He gave the stuff to the trainer, so technically, he didn't get it directly from Balco. Mark McGwire, Sammy Sosa, Barry Bonds, Curt Schilling, Rafeal Palmero, Jason Giambi. All these men were implicated, are they not all star material?
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
If bonds wasnt chasing the homerun record, or put up 73 homeruns in a season, you and everyone else wouldnt even give it a second thought if he was using steroids, it wouldnt be an issue. Could bonds have used? Sure anything is possible, but until there is proof, why assume or accuse the man of anything.
Your right, it’s not an issue because it was never outside the rules of baseball to use gear. But Bonds DID use steroids. And I think he knowingly used them, despite whatever genius cover story he comes up with to try and save his own ass. If I was in his position I might be doing the same thing. He has a lot to lose by telling the truth… you see what happened to Palmero.


ItalianMuscle27 said:
Give an pro athlete steroids and he becomes an all star? lmao.. Bonds was an all star before all these allegations. I think there are 12 current players who tested postive for steroids, and they were not all stars. So to say steroids makes an athlete an all star is far fetched. They havent made me an all star, and not you either..
They can make you bigger and/or stronger. Both of which can have huge positive impacts on professional athletes. You should know this.
 
i am what i am said:
Right. He gave the stuff to the trainer, so technically, he didn't get it directly from Balco. Mark McGwire, Sammy Sosa, Barry Bonds, Curt Schilling, Rafeal Palmero, Jason Giambi. All these men were implicated, are they not all star material?

Not those all stars, there are I think 12 current players who just recently over the last few months tested positive, and to my knowledge they were just normal guys, not the superstars. I am looking for the report online, when I find it, Ill post the players names..
 
Outtlaw said:
Your right, it’s not an issue because it was never outside the rules of baseball to use gear. But Bonds DID use steroids. And I think he knowingly used them, despite whatever genius cover story he comes up with to try and save his own ass. If I was in his position I might be doing the same thing. He has a lot to lose by telling the truth… you see what happened to Palmero.



They can make you bigger and/or stronger. Both of which can have huge positive impacts on professional athletes. You should know this.


Im not denying they can make you bigger and stronger, but to say steroids are what made him hit homeruns is ridiculous. You have to be able to make contact with the baseball first before you can even do this.. Steroids dont improve your hand/eye coordination, at least to my knowledge they dont..
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
Im not denying they can make you bigger and stronger, but to say steroids are what made him hit homeruns is ridiculous. You have to be able to make contact with the baseball first before you can even do this.. Steroids dont improve your hand/eye coordination, at least to my knowledge they dont..
I never said they made him hit homeruns. I said that by making the player bigger and stronger, it allows him to hit the ball farther. Therefore, the balls he couldnt drive outta the park before now fly into the upper deck.

Naturally, if you didnt have the hand/eye coordination to hit the ball to begin with, all the steroids would do for you is just make you strike out with that much more force. You might bring a whole new name to going down swinging, lol ;) . But if you ever got lucky and connected with the ball.... see Ya!!
 
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